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Who uses Autogain and the Limiter
Posted on: 25.01.2011 by Julissa Serrone
Been reading today and seen some threads where guys have said the S4 sounded great others saying the output was too low. Curious as to what everyones setting is. I believe the autogain + limiter + software volume + hardware volume = a ton of ways folks can go wrong.

I've been using:

- Autogain (rotaries work well once I put the track gain info on the deck info)
- NO limiter
- Software between -3 and -4
- Hardware = havent had to go past 60-70% volume on the systems I've played which were nothing special.

I find the headphones to be louder without the limiter but sound much better with the limiter. Without it and if I put it too loud it distorts some. Being that I'm playing on small set ups I believe I may just put the limiter back on.
Marylyn Vine
27.01.2011
Originally Posted by photojojo
To much control and it's not idiot proof plug and play.
Very true. Especially that it's not "idiot proof"
Leeanna Ayla
26.01.2011
Originally Posted by haze324
I wonder what causes some folsk to say their S4's sound great in a club while others say it's underpowered. I can only imagine it's a combination of the gains and volumes.
To much control and it's not idiot proof plug and play.
Julissa Serrone
26.01.2011
Originally Posted by Yul
autogain on but I do keep use of the gain encoders anyway to adapt accordingly.
Same here to get it just right

I wonder what causes some folsk to say their S4's sound great in a club while others say it's underpowered. I can only imagine it's a combination of the gains and volumes.
Leeanna Ayla
26.01.2011
Originally Posted by Yul
but I do keep use of the gain encoders anyway to adapt accordingly.
I find myself doing this on occasion as well. Especially if the song starts out quite but ends loud.
Marylyn Vine
25.01.2011
Originally Posted by padi_04
I have the limiter on, but it hardly ever hits there so it really makes no difference. master is around -5. What really bothers me is the difference in volume between a cued track and whatever is being aired (moving the cue mix knob).
Same here. I have master set to -6 dB and the difference is very noticeable. I usually just balance it out with "Cue mix".

Built-in limiter is one of the greatest features of Traktor. Don't see a reason why I wouldn't want to use it. In fact, I hope NI expands on it in the future to allow for more options such as a customizable compressor in place of a simple limiter.
Julissa Serrone
25.01.2011
Been reading today and seen some threads where guys have said the S4 sounded great others saying the output was too low. Curious as to what everyones setting is. I believe the autogain + limiter + software volume + hardware volume = a ton of ways folks can go wrong.

I've been using:

- Autogain (rotaries work well once I put the track gain info on the deck info)
- NO limiter
- Software between -3 and -4
- Hardware = havent had to go past 60-70% volume on the systems I've played which were nothing special.

I find the headphones to be louder without the limiter but sound much better with the limiter. Without it and if I put it too loud it distorts some. Being that I'm playing on small set ups I believe I may just put the limiter back on.
Marylyn Vine
27.01.2011
Originally Posted by photojojo
To much control and it's not idiot proof plug and play.
Very true. Especially that it's not "idiot proof"
Leeanna Ayla
26.01.2011
Originally Posted by haze324
I wonder what causes some folsk to say their S4's sound great in a club while others say it's underpowered. I can only imagine it's a combination of the gains and volumes.
To much control and it's not idiot proof plug and play.
Julissa Serrone
26.01.2011
Originally Posted by Yul
autogain on but I do keep use of the gain encoders anyway to adapt accordingly.
Same here to get it just right

I wonder what causes some folsk to say their S4's sound great in a club while others say it's underpowered. I can only imagine it's a combination of the gains and volumes.
Leeanna Ayla
26.01.2011
Originally Posted by Yul
but I do keep use of the gain encoders anyway to adapt accordingly.
I find myself doing this on occasion as well. Especially if the song starts out quite but ends loud.
Kecia Wnukowski
26.01.2011
Limiter and autogain both on but I do keep use of the gain encoders anyway to adapt accordingly.
Dana Ordinario
25.01.2011
Limiter On, Autogain off. I find that autogain messes with the sound output too much. I like to mix with the gain.
Janyce Henningson
25.01.2011
Neither on.

I use the gain knobs to mix - and try to keep out of the red.
Oswaldo Appeldorn
25.01.2011
1
Cristian Carmona
25.01.2011
^ +1
Leeanna Ayla
25.01.2011
Auto gain, on limiter on.
Charline Dye
25.01.2011
Others disagree, but I used MP3 Gain to normalize my tracks, so I don't use autogain. Limiter is on, but never gets used because I keep my levels below the red zone at all times.
The only thing that screwed my system up was the S4 sample decks. So my track decks are at 0db and now I have to lower the sample deck gain to -5. But if I sample a playing song I have to remember to turn the gain back up. I might have to undo the MP3 gain normalizing and go with auto gain again because of this. I wasn't real happy with the auto gain when I first used Traktor, but when I have some spare time I guess it's back to autogain.
Marylyn Vine
25.01.2011
Originally Posted by padi_04
I have the limiter on, but it hardly ever hits there so it really makes no difference. master is around -5. What really bothers me is the difference in volume between a cued track and whatever is being aired (moving the cue mix knob).
Same here. I have master set to -6 dB and the difference is very noticeable. I usually just balance it out with "Cue mix".

Built-in limiter is one of the greatest features of Traktor. Don't see a reason why I wouldn't want to use it. In fact, I hope NI expands on it in the future to allow for more options such as a customizable compressor in place of a simple limiter.
Nedra Fresneda
25.01.2011
I have the limiter on, but it hardly ever hits there so it really makes no difference. master is around -5. What really bothers me is the difference in volume between a cued track and whatever is being aired (moving the cue mix knob).

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