New S4 competitor

New S4 competitor
Posted on: 15.09.2010 by Marquetta Garron
Another 4 Channel Traktor Midi controller released, this time by the fine people at Faderfox
http://4midiloop.bassdas.ch/en/home/

4 Channels, 4 FX units.
200+ pots, 150+ buttons..

1300 Eur.
Random X
28.02.2011
Originally Posted by Zoosh
i dont really believe this can be classed as a competitor for the s4
+1
Dj LsEx
15.09.2010
Originally Posted by BradCee
except the ability to scratch
Check out that video on the developers' website. Guy's cutting vinyl timecode on one deck.

By now I'm sure the industry realizes that anyone wanting to scratch fundamentally wants to use turntables. Don't believe that's going to change until technology allows turntablists to do it better and have more fun doing it with MIDI.

And that's a long way off with the mindset of the current generation of DJs and controller developers.
nayit ruiz jaramillo
15.09.2010
Originally Posted by Rokku
It looks like the 4midiloop team developed the tech and FaderFox is helping with distribution.
All the buttons and knobs etc are from Faderfox. There is no way on earth that a Midi controller is worth 1400 euros.
It is essentially 4 Faderfox units in a box with faders. Its nice, it will be a joy to use but it is massively over priced.

It is a simple midi controller with a nice x-fader and that is it.
Dorcas Bassignani
15.09.2010
Originally Posted by PartyMcFly
For years on this community I've been reading people crying out for a comprehensive Traktor controller which mimics the screen layout and all of the visible functions. If you take a look at the face of this thing, it's got it all.
except the ability to scratch, which is a screen function using the mouse if you don't have a controller.

there's 'having it all' and 'having it all', and this looks too busy imo. not feeling the design/look of it either.
the prototype was nice, but this just doesn't feel right somehow. it's like it has so much flexibility, it's inflexible. it's too sterile and doesn't look fun (kind of like a freshly cleaned hospital ward and all the nurses are 80, and men)
Florence Alch
15.09.2010
Originally Posted by PartyMcFly
For years on this community I've been reading people crying out for a comprehensive Traktor controller which mimics the screen layout and all of the visible functions. If you take a look at the face of this thing, it's got it all.
exactly what I was believeing! for that price though you could have a 92 and some x1s.

drop the price by two thirds and ill have it.
Takisha Hodulik
15.09.2010
Originally Posted by Rokku
not really an S4 competitor though. It doesn't have jog wheels or the LED feedback that the S4 has...i don't believe these 2 products attract the same folks.
this
Huey Leynes
01.03.2011
no thx, too many tiny buttons for my man hands. S4 doesn't really have much competition aside from that Denon controller... plus, i'd hate having to map anything to all the functions in S4
Marylyn Vine
28.02.2011
This can't be considered an S4 competitor simply because it's not an all-in-one solution. There is no sound card in it. If it included a decent audio interface, I believe it would have been easier to justify the higher price point.

As for jog wheels, I came to realize that they are not needed for my style of mixing (auto-sync, 3 decks + one sample deck, techno, heavy on FX and looping). I'm actually hoping for a future all-in-one controller without jog wheels. That space could be utilized for other more useful controls.
Random X
28.02.2011
Originally Posted by Zoosh
i dont really believe this can be classed as a competitor for the s4
+1
Random X
28.02.2011
When I read the title, I was more believeing about the Pioneer DDJ-T1 or DDJ-S1, not this MIDI mixer.
Maxwell Bonifas
01.03.2011
i dont really believe this can be classed as a competitor for the s4
Merilyn Sellards
28.02.2011
nah, its still really nice to pitch bend with the jog wheels, use them for effects for subtle and or fast amounts, searching, and I do believe the scratching is great even if its not vinyl. I see this being less intuitive than the s4 by much but I believe when you get used to a controller this is not a big problem, that said I still believe there would be more margin of error due to the small buttons.
Dj LsEx
15.09.2010
Originally Posted by BradCee
except the ability to scratch
Check out that video on the developers' website. Guy's cutting vinyl timecode on one deck.

By now I'm sure the industry realizes that anyone wanting to scratch fundamentally wants to use turntables. Don't believe that's going to change until technology allows turntablists to do it better and have more fun doing it with MIDI.

And that's a long way off with the mindset of the current generation of DJs and controller developers.
nayit ruiz jaramillo
15.09.2010
Originally Posted by Rokku
It looks like the 4midiloop team developed the tech and FaderFox is helping with distribution.
All the buttons and knobs etc are from Faderfox. There is no way on earth that a Midi controller is worth 1400 euros.
It is essentially 4 Faderfox units in a box with faders. Its nice, it will be a joy to use but it is massively over priced.

It is a simple midi controller with a nice x-fader and that is it.
Johnsie Kingrea
16.09.2010
I know a lot of people here use Faderfox's but i've never liked the design of them, and this one is especially off the charts. Sure it may have a button for every Traktor function but it seems very squished and loud. I don't get how people can say the S4 is a toy because this too me looks way more like a toy
Jacqulyn Shoemo
15.09.2010
There is a knob on the controller that allows you to turn it and "scratch" with it.
Dorcas Bassignani
15.09.2010
Originally Posted by PartyMcFly
For years on this community I've been reading people crying out for a comprehensive Traktor controller which mimics the screen layout and all of the visible functions. If you take a look at the face of this thing, it's got it all.
except the ability to scratch, which is a screen function using the mouse if you don't have a controller.

there's 'having it all' and 'having it all', and this looks too busy imo. not feeling the design/look of it either.
the prototype was nice, but this just doesn't feel right somehow. it's like it has so much flexibility, it's inflexible. it's too sterile and doesn't look fun (kind of like a freshly cleaned hospital ward and all the nurses are 80, and men)
Jacqulyn Shoemo
15.09.2010
they're producing it in limited numbers, so that's probably why it's a bit more expensive. It looks like the 4midiloop team developed the tech and FaderFox is helping with distribution.
Florence Alch
15.09.2010
Originally Posted by PartyMcFly
For years on this community I've been reading people crying out for a comprehensive Traktor controller which mimics the screen layout and all of the visible functions. If you take a look at the face of this thing, it's got it all.
exactly what I was believeing! for that price though you could have a 92 and some x1s.

drop the price by two thirds and ill have it.
Takisha Hodulik
15.09.2010
Originally Posted by Rokku
not really an S4 competitor though. It doesn't have jog wheels or the LED feedback that the S4 has...i don't believe these 2 products attract the same folks.
this
Dj LsEx
15.09.2010
For years on this community I've been reading people crying out for a comprehensive Traktor controller which mimics the screen layout and all of the visible functions. If you take a look at the face of this thing, it's got it all.

I'd ride real hard for this controller if it didn't look like a pain to take to gigs.

I believe it's a really cool piece of studio kit.
Matt Kane
15.09.2010
I believe the ableton dj's could love it. But for that price? Hm i don't know. Faderfox does indeed build solid stuff but 1400 bugs?
Leann Zugay
15.09.2010
Too many tiny little buttons
nayit ruiz jaramillo
15.09.2010
My God its 1400euros... what !!!!!!!!!!!!!
nayit ruiz jaramillo
15.09.2010
Originally Posted by BradCee
has anyone seen that 52" touch screen controller?
^^
Pissed myself..!

One thing can be said that the new Faderfox will be a good product. They make great stuff.

Its not in the same category as the S4 though.
Dorcas Bassignani
15.09.2010
has anyone seen that 52" touch screen controller?
Jacqulyn Shoemo
15.09.2010
not really an S4 competitor though. It doesn't have jog wheels or the LED feedback that the S4 has...i don't believe these 2 products attract the same folks.
gabriel ortiz
15.09.2010
Looks pretty nice. Those buttons look kinda small though.
Kecia Wnukowski
15.09.2010
old news.

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