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How do/would you map 2X Kontrol X1's with the S4 Posted on: 09.03.2011 by Romelia Stankard So I'm about to pull the trigger on an S4 in anticipation of Traktor 2 and I am fortunate enough to have 2 Kontrol X1's.Now I'm just wondering how I should map my X1s to go with it. I will be using two sample decks and I would like to have full control over them. So I am looking for mapping ideas and I'm wondering if anyone has mapped two x1's for it or has any ideas. How well does the S4 control the sample decks as is? I want to be able to control volume/filter with dedicated knobs so I'm believeing of putting them on the knobs of the X1's. I just don't want the X1's to be redundant in the setup so I don't want many control duplicated which I'm not sure if it will be possible. Is two overkill? How would you do it? I'm excited for this thing. I would also like to know if there is room in the back of the S4 flight case for a power strip and usb hub. Since I will prob be using 2 X1's they need a hub since the macbook pro only has two usb ports and the S4 needs a dedicated one. | |
| Francina Decosse 10.03.2011 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
one of the X1s could stay on an X1 case on the side of the case... it'd be the same hight. |
| Romelia Stankard 09.03.2011 |
Originally Posted by PartyMark
I just want to know what to do with the 16 lower buttons on each x1 with the s4. I got some good ideas on the encoders but I still don't know what would make more sense. I would believe a lot of people would be using one or two X1s with the S4 and I wonder why I'm not seeing many mappings. |
| Leeanna Ayla 09.03.2011 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
http://www.native-instruments.com/#/...pro/?page=2008
* If you own the S4 AND a digital vinyl system from NI (TRAKTOR SCRATCH, TRAKTOR SCRATCH DUO / TRAKTOR SCRATCH PRO), you will receive a free SCRATCH UPGRADE.
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| Romelia Stankard 09.03.2011 |
Originally Posted by photojojo
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| Leeanna Ayla 09.03.2011 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
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| Romelia Stankard 09.03.2011 | So I'm about to pull the trigger on an S4 in anticipation of Traktor 2 and I am fortunate enough to have 2 Kontrol X1's. Now I'm just wondering how I should map my X1s to go with it. I will be using two sample decks and I would like to have full control over them. So I am looking for mapping ideas and I'm wondering if anyone has mapped two x1's for it or has any ideas. How well does the S4 control the sample decks as is? I want to be able to control volume/filter with dedicated knobs so I'm believeing of putting them on the knobs of the X1's. I just don't want the X1's to be redundant in the setup so I don't want many control duplicated which I'm not sure if it will be possible. Is two overkill? How would you do it? I'm excited for this thing. I would also like to know if there is room in the back of the S4 flight case for a power strip and usb hub. Since I will prob be using 2 X1's they need a hub since the macbook pro only has two usb ports and the S4 needs a dedicated one. |
| Romelia Stankard 16.03.2011 | S4 coming today... I believe I want to leave the S4 map and one of the X1's as is except just keep it on hotcue mode. I believe I'll change the encoders on that one to scroll through deck view modes and other parameters along with FX combos. The on the other X1 the knobs will each be sample filter with filter on buttons, one set of pads will be for sample launch and repeat on/off. then just gotta figure out what to do with the encoders. |
| Romelia Stankard 10.03.2011 | Just ordered my S4 and case I'm debating between moving the FX units from the top of the S4 to the X1s and keeping the top 8 knobs for sample filters. I would like to keep 4 FX units and I would like individual volume knobs for the sampls but maybe I don't need them if using filters. For the buttons below the FX knobs I'm believeing of having them be for repeat loop on/off If I did want volume knobs where do you believe they could go? I was believeing shift for the filter knobs to control volume but I don't believe it would work since it would throw both off. I have no idea what to do with the 8 encoders on the X1, any idea? the inner 8 buttons on each side of the X1 will be dedicated hotcues with hotcue toggling delete I was believeing the encoders could be sample volume but the layout is awkward and I want it to be intuitive and match the screen as much as possible For the outer 8 buttons on each controller I don't know what to do with them The other idea for the X1s is have sample play volume knob, filter knob, and repeat for each one which would reflect the sample layout well and offer a lot of control, then I would just have 2 FX units which could work but I'm not sure if it would be enough. Not that I use them all at once but it is nice to have the option which to use without switching FXs and being able to have two on chained and two on advanced An idea for the outer 8 buttons is to have FX deck assigns- a 2x2 square for deck A with C below and B and D on the other side which might be nice. Then have the FX assigns to toggle between chained and advanced on each unit. As I type and believe about it I am really liking this route. Now just to figure out what to do with the encoders. |
| Francina Decosse 10.03.2011 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
one of the X1s could stay on an X1 case on the side of the case... it'd be the same hight. |
| Leeanna Ayla 10.03.2011 | That's an idea. I believe fullenglishpint has gotten the MF mapping to work on his X1 |
| Patty Mcgilbra 10.03.2011 | you could port the MIDI Fighter mappings to the buttons and use the buttons next to the kbons to re-trigger and mute the samples |
| Romelia Stankard 09.03.2011 |
Originally Posted by PartyMark
I just want to know what to do with the 16 lower buttons on each x1 with the s4. I got some good ideas on the encoders but I still don't know what would make more sense. I would believe a lot of people would be using one or two X1s with the S4 and I wonder why I'm not seeing many mappings. |
| Anastacia Gorte 09.03.2011 | I am in the situation where I just got my s4 in and am trying to learn all there is to know about it. I also have an x1 that I want to put to use. The link posted above looks like a good mapping, are there other mappings people use that they like with an s4 and x1 combo? |
| Leeanna Ayla 09.03.2011 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
http://www.native-instruments.com/#/...pro/?page=2008
* If you own the S4 AND a digital vinyl system from NI (TRAKTOR SCRATCH, TRAKTOR SCRATCH DUO / TRAKTOR SCRATCH PRO), you will receive a free SCRATCH UPGRADE.
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| Romelia Stankard 09.03.2011 |
Originally Posted by photojojo
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| Romelia Stankard 09.03.2011 | On the laptop tray I might not even bother with the tray since I love my crane stand but who knows, it seems to sit low but that might work out, not having to carry another piece of gear is nice and I can throw the x1's on it Alternatively I can keep the laptop on the stand to the side and keep the x1's on the tray, that might be nice |
| Leeanna Ayla 09.03.2011 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
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| Romelia Stankard 09.03.2011 | Cool Also, I wonder if the case for the S4 would fit a 15" macbook pro with two X1's on the side. Also, will Traktor 2 support turntables without a scratch upgrade? I already own traktor scratch pro... That's a cool mapping for the X1, I wonder how I would do it with two- I like to avoid using shifts/different modes when possible in favor of dedicated knobs/buttons. I had my 4D mapped with like 3 shifts and it drove me crazy, even one shift gets a little annoying for me unless it is necessary. |
| Leeanna Ayla 09.03.2011 | Definitely not overkill. Each X1 can be dedicated to the volume and filter for their own sample deck. The 8 buttons on the bottom can be used for cues 5-8 and EQ kills. the endless encoders can be used for FX combos. Lots of possibilities. Have a look at this for ideas. http://www.traktorbible.com/freaks/m...ew.aspx?id=130 |
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