Keeping cue points when updating to TP2

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Keeping cue points when updating to TP2
Posted on: 30.03.2011 by Mariano Godina
I'm about to update, one question though - a friend of mine said that when he installed the update he lost all his cue points.....Is this true and how is it possible to leave them all in place?

Thanks guys!
Marylyn Vine
30.03.2011		Guys,

Here is the "fine print" from NI's email explaining the installation. I haven't tried it myself yet, so I don't know if it works as expected, but there is surely a way to keep your library with all cue points, beatgrids, etc.


*Notes on installation and configuration:

  • TRAKTOR PRO 2 installs in a separate location of your choice and does not interfere with your existing TRAKTOR PRO S4 installation or older generations of TRAKTOR on the same computer.
  • How to import your music library: On initial start of the newest generation software, you will be presented with a dialog offering to create a copy of your existing TRAKTOR collection
Marylyn Vine
30.03.2011		Guys,

Here is the "fine print" from NI's email explaining the installation. I haven't tried it myself yet, so I don't know if it works as expected, but there is surely a way to keep your library with all cue points, beatgrids, etc.


*Notes on installation and configuration:

  • TRAKTOR PRO 2 installs in a separate location of your choice and does not interfere with your existing TRAKTOR PRO S4 installation or older generations of TRAKTOR on the same computer.
  • How to import your music library: On initial start of the newest generation software, you will be presented with a dialog offering to create a copy of your existing TRAKTOR collection
Marylyn Vine
30.03.2011		Guys,

Here is the "fine print" from NI's email explaining the installation. I haven't tried it myself yet, so I don't know if it works as expected, but there is surely a way to keep your library with all cue points, beatgrids, etc.


*Notes on installation and configuration:

  • TRAKTOR PRO 2 installs in a separate location of your choice and does not interfere with your existing TRAKTOR PRO S4 installation or older generations of TRAKTOR on the same computer.
  • How to import your music library: On initial start of the newest generation software, you will be presented with a dialog offering to create a copy of your existing TRAKTOR collection
Kena Herko
31.03.2011
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
Quick point of information, I believe that WAV files don't contain their own hotcues as their metadata capacity is limited, the cues and bpms etc are stored in Traktor's .nml library file. What impact that has on changing over I don't know.

I've found some tracks have moved the first grid marker on analysis, but left the rest of the cues as they were which is quite annoying. I spent most of yesterday afternoon going through all my dubstep, regridding and organising (which I needed to do anyway).

I had the same problem where some of my beat grids have shifted but it will give me a chance to go through my collection and sort out all of my cue points
Tatum Ansaldo
31.03.2011
Originally Posted by Tobes
cue points are stored in the mp3/wav file.
Quick point of information, I believe that WAV files don't contain their own hotcues as their metadata capacity is limited, the cues and bpms etc are stored in Traktor's .nml library file. What impact that has on changing over I don't know.

I've found some tracks have moved the first grid marker on analysis, but left the rest of the cues as they were which is quite annoying. I spent most of yesterday afternoon going through all my dubstep, regridding and organising (which I needed to do anyway).
Marylyn Vine
30.03.2011		Guys,

Here is the "fine print" from NI's email explaining the installation. I haven't tried it myself yet, so I don't know if it works as expected, but there is surely a way to keep your library with all cue points, beatgrids, etc.


*Notes on installation and configuration:

  • TRAKTOR PRO 2 installs in a separate location of your choice and does not interfere with your existing TRAKTOR PRO S4 installation or older generations of TRAKTOR on the same computer.
  • How to import your music library: On initial start of the newest generation software, you will be presented with a dialog offering to create a copy of your existing TRAKTOR collection
Mariano Godina
30.03.2011		I'm about to update, one question though - a friend of mine said that when he installed the update he lost all his cue points.....Is this true and how is it possible to leave them all in place?

Thanks guys!
Kena Herko
01.04.2011		thats just my tracks analysing it was runnin for 7 hours last evening , then i've got to go through about 3200 tracks to sort out the grids. it'll definately keep me busy for the next week
Tatum Ansaldo
01.04.2011		I reckon I've got another week's work at least.
Kena Herko
01.04.2011		evening mare job aint it, i've still got another hours worth of track analising to do
Tatum Ansaldo
31.03.2011		That's what I've spent the last 2 days doing and it's nowhere near done. 20% maybe. Urgh.
Kena Herko
31.03.2011
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
Quick point of information, I believe that WAV files don't contain their own hotcues as their metadata capacity is limited, the cues and bpms etc are stored in Traktor's .nml library file. What impact that has on changing over I don't know.

I've found some tracks have moved the first grid marker on analysis, but left the rest of the cues as they were which is quite annoying. I spent most of yesterday afternoon going through all my dubstep, regridding and organising (which I needed to do anyway).

I had the same problem where some of my beat grids have shifted but it will give me a chance to go through my collection and sort out all of my cue points
Tatum Ansaldo
31.03.2011
Originally Posted by Tobes
cue points are stored in the mp3/wav file.
Quick point of information, I believe that WAV files don't contain their own hotcues as their metadata capacity is limited, the cues and bpms etc are stored in Traktor's .nml library file. What impact that has on changing over I don't know.

I've found some tracks have moved the first grid marker on analysis, but left the rest of the cues as they were which is quite annoying. I spent most of yesterday afternoon going through all my dubstep, regridding and organising (which I needed to do anyway).
Mariano Godina
31.03.2011		Thanks for the info....I thought as much to be honest but just wanted to check, re-cueing thousands of tracks is not top of my wish list lol!

Great info too popoff, that was very interesting, thanks.

Tom
Neville Blackinton
30.03.2011		The only change I found between TPro & TS4 is that you no longer have to set the 1st hotcue as the first beat in the beat grid. Freeing up the first hot cue.

Which I just set to the beginning of the track usually anyways but not always.

/edit

Ok disregard, cue points are the same. I guess only the TS4 is different
Milda Poucher
30.03.2011		cue points are stored in the mp3/wav file. Even if you didn't import your collection but just one track you would have the cues for it.

Seriously don't worry about it.
Marylyn Vine
30.03.2011		Guys,

Here is the "fine print" from NI's email explaining the installation. I haven't tried it myself yet, so I don't know if it works as expected, but there is surely a way to keep your library with all cue points, beatgrids, etc.


*Notes on installation and configuration:

  • TRAKTOR PRO 2 installs in a separate location of your choice and does not interfere with your existing TRAKTOR PRO S4 installation or older generations of TRAKTOR on the same computer.
  • How to import your music library: On initial start of the newest generation software, you will be presented with a dialog offering to create a copy of your existing TRAKTOR collection
Tatum Ansaldo
30.03.2011		cues all fine here.
Nedra Fresneda
30.03.2011		Cues are stored within the mp3 tags. Anyway, if you import the collection there shouln't be any loss
Bailey Fergurson
30.03.2011		I am also very curious.

I had this problem with Traktor Pro 1 and S4 software.

Locking the cue points in traktor pro meant they where still there (locked) in S4 but locking cue points in S4 meant they where lost when opened in traktor pro.

It was a very bizarre scenario so now I use traktor pro 1 as the master cue point assembly software if you like.

I would love confirmation of the best method by someone who is more enlightened.

Thanks alot

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