S4 Versus Numark NS7 for scratching?

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S4 Versus Numark NS7 for scratching?
Posted on: 05.10.2011 by Raul Contreras
Hey all I've been DJing nearly 25 years, I'm basically a traditional old school Hip Hop scratch DJ (believe DJ Premiere style, not Q Bert!). I've been using Traktor for 4 years now and don't really want to change (I use the vinyl control system with 1210s).

But, now I'm selling my gear and just want to replace with a single unit plus a laptop. Now I like the fact the NS7 has motorized platters as it feels more vinyl like, but I seem more drawn to the S4...also, eventually when I have a bigger studio, I'll have decks again and want to plug them into something like the S4 (which is why I don't want the S2)

So, basically, are there any scratch DJs out there used to wax but wanting to change like me to 100% digital with an opinion on these 2 systems?

Many thanks!
Raul Contreras
07.10.2011
Damn! I didn't know about the Denons, these look dope, how am I gonna justify a grand and a half on the never never to the missus???

I just sold 2 x technics 1210s with a vestax 05 pro 2 pplus Traktor Scratch Pro as a bundle and looking for a single controller to replace the lot...

I'll be DJing on the radio, so a controller is fine but also playing in clubs where I want to be able to cut shit up and juggle. So as much as I can see the S4 as being good for an electronic music DJ, for a traditional scratch DJ that loves wax, mu'fucka I NEED THOSE DENONS!!!

Well, I suppose I can slip one past the missus then get another a month later!

They are dope... but I see they are reviewed back in January 2009 and still retailing for
Raul Contreras
07.10.2011
Damn! I didn't know about the Denons, these look dope, how am I gonna justify a grand and a half on the never never to the missus???

I just sold 2 x technics 1210s with a vestax 05 pro 2 pplus Traktor Scratch Pro as a bundle and looking for a single controller to replace the lot...

I'll be DJing on the radio, so a controller is fine but also playing in clubs where I want to be able to cut shit up and juggle. So as much as I can see the S4 as being good for an electronic music DJ, for a traditional scratch DJ that loves wax, mu'fucka I NEED THOSE DENONS!!!

Well, I suppose I can slip one past the missus then get another a month later!

They are dope... but I see they are reviewed back in January 2009 and still retailing for
Raul Contreras
07.10.2011
Damn! I didn't know about the Denons, these look dope, how am I gonna justify a grand and a half on the never never to the missus???

I just sold 2 x technics 1210s with a vestax 05 pro 2 pplus Traktor Scratch Pro as a bundle and looking for a single controller to replace the lot...

I'll be DJing on the radio, so a controller is fine but also playing in clubs where I want to be able to cut shit up and juggle. So as much as I can see the S4 as being good for an electronic music DJ, for a traditional scratch DJ that loves wax, mu'fucka I NEED THOSE DENONS!!!

Well, I suppose I can slip one past the missus then get another a month later!

They are dope... but I see they are reviewed back in January 2009 and still retailing for
Raul Contreras
07.10.2011
Damn! I didn't know about the Denons, these look dope, how am I gonna justify a grand and a half on the never never to the missus???

I just sold 2 x technics 1210s with a vestax 05 pro 2 pplus Traktor Scratch Pro as a bundle and looking for a single controller to replace the lot...

I'll be DJing on the radio, so a controller is fine but also playing in clubs where I want to be able to cut shit up and juggle. So as much as I can see the S4 as being good for an electronic music DJ, for a traditional scratch DJ that loves wax, mu'fucka I NEED THOSE DENONS!!!

Well, I suppose I can slip one past the missus then get another a month later!

They are dope... but I see they are reviewed back in January 2009 and still retailing for
Raul Contreras
07.10.2011
Damn! I didn't know about the Denons, these look dope, how am I gonna justify a grand and a half on the never never to the missus???

I just sold 2 x technics 1210s with a vestax 05 pro 2 pplus Traktor Scratch Pro as a bundle and looking for a single controller to replace the lot...

I'll be DJing on the radio, so a controller is fine but also playing in clubs where I want to be able to cut shit up and juggle. So as much as I can see the S4 as being good for an electronic music DJ, for a traditional scratch DJ that loves wax, mu'fucka I NEED THOSE DENONS!!!

Well, I suppose I can slip one past the missus then get another a month later!

They are dope... but I see they are reviewed back in January 2009 and still retailing for
Rebbecca Fennell
08.10.2011
Originally Posted by Waxer
I suppose I can slip one past the missus then get another a month later!
thats how to get it done man!
"what? this?? this thing right here, where did i get it from??? oh.. ive always had this - i traded (something i still own) for this. yeah.. no, i didnt spend any money... i probably made money from this trade i had a great deal....."
Raul Contreras
07.10.2011
Damn! I didn't know about the Denons, these look dope, how am I gonna justify a grand and a half on the never never to the missus???

I just sold 2 x technics 1210s with a vestax 05 pro 2 pplus Traktor Scratch Pro as a bundle and looking for a single controller to replace the lot...

I'll be DJing on the radio, so a controller is fine but also playing in clubs where I want to be able to cut shit up and juggle. So as much as I can see the S4 as being good for an electronic music DJ, for a traditional scratch DJ that loves wax, mu'fucka I NEED THOSE DENONS!!!

Well, I suppose I can slip one past the missus then get another a month later!

They are dope... but I see they are reviewed back in January 2009 and still retailing for
Veda Zarella
06.10.2011
I'd say the NS7 !

Originally Posted by Wala
if you're in the US check out guitar center
He's in the UK.
Raul Contreras
05.10.2011
Hey all I've been DJing nearly 25 years, I'm basically a traditional old school Hip Hop scratch DJ (believe DJ Premiere style, not Q Bert!). I've been using Traktor for 4 years now and don't really want to change (I use the vinyl control system with 1210s).

But, now I'm selling my gear and just want to replace with a single unit plus a laptop. Now I like the fact the NS7 has motorized platters as it feels more vinyl like, but I seem more drawn to the S4...also, eventually when I have a bigger studio, I'll have decks again and want to plug them into something like the S4 (which is why I don't want the S2)

So, basically, are there any scratch DJs out there used to wax but wanting to change like me to 100% digital with an opinion on these 2 systems?

Many thanks!
Rebbecca Fennell
08.10.2011
Originally Posted by Waxer
I suppose I can slip one past the missus then get another a month later!
thats how to get it done man!
"what? this?? this thing right here, where did i get it from??? oh.. ive always had this - i traded (something i still own) for this. yeah.. no, i didnt spend any money... i probably made money from this trade i had a great deal....."
Mercy Dudik
07.10.2011
You should be able to get them for less than 1.5k, I got mine for $1000 for the pair (one open box and one store return). I don't believe Pioneer is gunna come out with a spinning platter controller however there are rumors of Denon bringing out a new one called the "DN-SC3900" however there isn't a lot of information available on it right now
Raul Contreras
07.10.2011
Damn! I didn't know about the Denons, these look dope, how am I gonna justify a grand and a half on the never never to the missus???

I just sold 2 x technics 1210s with a vestax 05 pro 2 pplus Traktor Scratch Pro as a bundle and looking for a single controller to replace the lot...

I'll be DJing on the radio, so a controller is fine but also playing in clubs where I want to be able to cut shit up and juggle. So as much as I can see the S4 as being good for an electronic music DJ, for a traditional scratch DJ that loves wax, mu'fucka I NEED THOSE DENONS!!!

Well, I suppose I can slip one past the missus then get another a month later!

They are dope... but I see they are reviewed back in January 2009 and still retailing for
Mercy Dudik
07.10.2011
The DN-S3700s are great for scratching also, I run a pair on traktor and it's as close to real vinyl feel as you can get. I like the 3700's over the NS7 because of the 9" platters (no homo) over the 7" on the NS7 and the additional controls on the 3700s. But the price reflects all of that.
Jake Vierow
07.10.2011
If weight and size isn't an issue, NS7 EFX hands down.
I still have mine and love the way it feels.
I bought the S4 out of necessity (dragging the NS7 through a packed club aint no fun)
But I haven't regretted it at all!
its really a case of what you lose on the swings you gain on the roundabouts when it comes to their differences.
BTW if you want retain the vinyl feel have you thought about just getting Serato and using the control records?
Or are you set on getting a controller?
Any how that's my 10 cents worth, all the best with what ever you choose
Ian
Raul Contreras
07.10.2011
Yeah I'm in the UK near Birmingham, I've got both Digital Village and Hard to Find Records Nearby, I've been in a couple of times messing about but not had a serious session on any controller in there but I'm at the point of walking in with cash to walk out with a controller so I'll have a look in there and see what's what...
Veda Zarella
06.10.2011
I'd say the NS7 !

Originally Posted by Wala
if you're in the US check out guitar center
He's in the UK.
Maida Acra
06.10.2011
NS7 for scratching mate! I recommend you go to your local DJ retailer (if you're in the US check out guitar center) and try out some controllers!
Raul Contreras
06.10.2011
Dope fellers, respect for the opinions!
Jake Vierow
06.10.2011
Yeah, the S4 aint gonna win you no scratch battles =)
I recently switched from an NS7 EFX to the S4.
Mainly because of size and weight issues (The NS7 EFX in it's flight case weighs nearly 31Kgs!!).
But if you really wanna scratch with a controller IMHO nothing comes close to the NS7.
All the best!
Mercy Dudik
06.10.2011
I have an S4 and a rig consisting of 2 x Denon DN-S3700 and a Denon DN-X1600 mixer. I have also tried the NS7 on Itch and both my Denon rig and the NS7 are tons better for scratching than the S4. Don't get me wrong, the S4 is a great piece of gear but for scratching on Traktor the 3700s in hybrid mode is like evening and day compared to the S4.

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