Moving into the present with S4 & X1..?

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Moving into the present with S4 & X1..?
Posted on: 05.10.2011 by Denyse Sikking
I have until recently been using 2xCDJ400s and a 4 channel Behringer DJX700 and Korg Kaoss Pad KP3. I started on the CDJs for their usb function instead of using CD's. After years of not utilizing it as a midi controller, I started using Traktor Pro ( I haven't even looked at other software) I decided to buy a X1 and the free Pro 2 upgrade, now i seem to hardly even touch my CDJ's. I have decided to buy a S4 so I can use the external mixer rather than buying an Audio 2, 6 etc. I have decided to sell my KP3. I feel buying the S4 (which is a definite) it will make my CDJ's and mixer redundant. Is this the case that I will vertually have 2 full set ups or am I best to intergrate the CDJ's whit the S4 & X1.
Your opinions please
Cheers,
DuBby
Judi Sissel
16.10.2011
Originally Posted by Razehell
I would just keep your old mixer unless you got a decent PA mixer (its nice to have a easy way to split signals, or mix with someone else).
Sell the rest.
I've done this a few times; makes it fun and simple. While one guys mixing in or out the other can be on the mixer riding the eq or doing some fills.
Alexandra Nerby
17.10.2011
Originally Posted by smittten
Some people who have moved from decks or CDJs to the something like the S4 have the missed the tactile mixing experience. I sold my decks years ago and ended up buying another set after I got my S4. I would integrate the setup, at least for a while. Only you can decide the best setup for you.
I agree. I use my CDJs with my X1 on the side, but I would never go back to strictly a controller after mixing externally with CDJs.
Denyse Sikking
06.10.2011
Originally Posted by photojojo
You can also get the scratch upgrade for the S4 and use the CDJ's with timecode. Although I hear of lackluster performance with the 400's and timecode.
Thanks, as I say I am just entering the realm of software intergration ( call be 5-10 years behind) can you please give me a link to a good webpage so I can understand timecode and Scratch a bit more.
It looks like I'm just going to use S4 & X1 for now and keep CDJ's and hopefully eventually incorporate them.
Cheers
DuBbyDaBandit
Denyse Sikking
06.10.2011
Originally Posted by Ashigari
if you get the S4 you will be mixing internally as well so nothing changes, if you want to mix externally you'll have to get an audio 2/4/6/8/10 depending on what in and outs you need
Okay sorry what I meant is that I am using the Traktor mixer with my mouse and once I have the S4 I will be "externally" mixing via Traktor, so really my question is can I plug my CDJ's into USB and control them as channels B & D? I hope this makes a little mote sence. I have a X1 I can use, but I've been told to keep the CDJ's & try utilize them.
Thanks for your time,
DuBbyDaDanDit,
DuBby
Denyse Sikking
05.10.2011		I have until recently been using 2xCDJ400s and a 4 channel Behringer DJX700 and Korg Kaoss Pad KP3. I started on the CDJs for their usb function instead of using CD's. After years of not utilizing it as a midi controller, I started using Traktor Pro ( I haven't even looked at other software) I decided to buy a X1 and the free Pro 2 upgrade, now i seem to hardly even touch my CDJ's. I have decided to buy a S4 so I can use the external mixer rather than buying an Audio 2, 6 etc. I have decided to sell my KP3. I feel buying the S4 (which is a definite) it will make my CDJ's and mixer redundant. Is this the case that I will vertually have 2 full set ups or am I best to intergrate the CDJ's whit the S4 & X1.
Your opinions please
Cheers,
DuBby
Judi Sissel
16.10.2011
Originally Posted by Razehell
I would just keep your old mixer unless you got a decent PA mixer (its nice to have a easy way to split signals, or mix with someone else).
Sell the rest.
I've done this a few times; makes it fun and simple. While one guys mixing in or out the other can be on the mixer riding the eq or doing some fills.
Lana Felicien
16.10.2011		I started with traktor. Only used pioneer 2000s/800 after, then fooled around with a bunch of other peoples controllers.
I have no doubt that the S4 is the way to go.
I would just keep your old mixer unless you got a decent PA mixer (its nice to have a easy way to split signals, or mix with someone else).
Sell the rest.
Alexandra Nerby
17.10.2011
Originally Posted by smittten
Some people who have moved from decks or CDJs to the something like the S4 have the missed the tactile mixing experience. I sold my decks years ago and ended up buying another set after I got my S4. I would integrate the setup, at least for a while. Only you can decide the best setup for you.
I agree. I use my CDJs with my X1 on the side, but I would never go back to strictly a controller after mixing externally with CDJs.
Britta Limehouse
16.10.2011		I would sell the CDJs and go for the S4 with X1's....well actually thats what i did...sold my cdj1000's and my Audio8DJ to get the S4 with 2* X1's... I would never regret it

S4 + X1's = More powerful than CDJ's and more compact,
Lisa Lochotzki
16.10.2011		CDJ400 in HID works fine. You could even add them to your S4 setup in a snap. If any badluck happen to your S4, you can use them as soundcard directly. (assuming you download and install their latest firmware & driver)
edit: checkout post #17 of this thread

Keep them, btw you're not going to have bunch of cash for.
Sharyn Prado
16.10.2011		I personally wouldnt bother keeping the CDJ's if your getting an S4, get em on ebay, sell them to some other mug who hasnt cottoned on that digital DJing is the way forward
Denyse Sikking
06.10.2011
Originally Posted by photojojo
You can also get the scratch upgrade for the S4 and use the CDJ's with timecode. Although I hear of lackluster performance with the 400's and timecode.
Thanks, as I say I am just entering the realm of software intergration ( call be 5-10 years behind) can you please give me a link to a good webpage so I can understand timecode and Scratch a bit more.
It looks like I'm just going to use S4 & X1 for now and keep CDJ's and hopefully eventually incorporate them.
Cheers
DuBbyDaBandit
Denyse Sikking
06.10.2011
Originally Posted by Ashigari
if you get the S4 you will be mixing internally as well so nothing changes, if you want to mix externally you'll have to get an audio 2/4/6/8/10 depending on what in and outs you need
Okay sorry what I meant is that I am using the Traktor mixer with my mouse and once I have the S4 I will be "externally" mixing via Traktor, so really my question is can I plug my CDJ's into USB and control them as channels B & D? I hope this makes a little mote sence. I have a X1 I can use, but I've been told to keep the CDJ's & try utilize them.
Thanks for your time,
DuBbyDaDanDit,
DuBby
Leeanna Ayla
06.10.2011		You can also get the scratch upgrade for the S4 and use the CDJ's with timecode. Although I hear of lackluster performance with the 400's and timecode.
Patty Mcgilbra
06.10.2011		if you get the S4 you will be mixing internally as well so nothing changes, if you want to mix externally you'll have to get an audio 2/4/6/8/10 depending on what in and outs you need
Denyse Sikking
06.10.2011		If I do integrate them with a S4 via Traktor Pro 2 will they be used as midi devices or using audio outputs (totally novice, I am using internal mixer at the moment rather than buying an Audio2/6 etc). I will defiantly keep my CDJ's, thanks for the advice.
DuBby
Len Lukawski
06.10.2011		Some people who have moved from decks or CDJs to the something like the S4 have the missed the tactile mixing experience. I sold my decks years ago and ended up buying another set after I got my S4. I would integrate the setup, at least for a while. Only you can decide the best setup for you.

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