Problem when trying to use S4 as a controller for Ableton (how to use midi mode etc)
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Problem when trying to use S4 as a controller for Ableton (how to use midi mode etc) Posted on: 10.12.2011 by Loriann Abreo Hi guys!I tried to search this community for an answer but even though I found some answers, nothing helped me to figure out what is wrong. So the deal is that I am DJing with S4 but I am also starting to do live gigs occasionally and it would only make sense that I could use the same controller for both so I don't have to travel with that much gear. The problem is that every one is talking about midi mode and how you can get there by pressing shift+browse. How do I know that it is on the midi mode? I mean that will some light lit up or is there any kind of visual feedback that tells me that "Your S4 is now in midi mode" because at least I can't see anything like that. So if somebody who knows how this stuff works could lighten me up with the setup process I would be really grateful. I mean from the scratch. I've used 2 days now for googling about it, trying different solutions and nothing seems to help. I am not new to all this midi stuff and this is the first time I have to just put my hands down and say "I need help from somebody" and as no one else on my friends have S4 there was no one I could turn to IRL. I am pretty new with Mac computers (hard to buy one because had too much problems with PC thanks to the crappy drivers of S4) and I dunno if I have set up everything right in OSX. It shows my S4 in Audio MIDI Setup but I get no signal in or out (it should show those arrows flashing; at least the help file said so) I get so far that Ableton Midi Sync recognizes the device but I get no kind of signal into Ableton. No midi in lights blinking. Any help would be greatly appreciated as if I don't get this to work by Monday I just have to give up and go buy some other controller because I have only week to finish this setup. HALP, PLZ! | |
Loriann Abreo 11.12.2011 |
Originally Posted by BURST!
I gotta finish my new live setup by next Thursday and can't even get started because of this annoying problem :/ |
Loriann Abreo 11.12.2011 |
Originally Posted by BURST!
I am looking for the solution constantly all around and will inform my findings as well |
Loriann Abreo 10.12.2011 |
Originally Posted by weltraumpapst
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robin loo 10.12.2011 |
Originally Posted by anttir
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Loriann Abreo 10.12.2011 |
Originally Posted by weltraumpapst
Anyways it seems like OS related thingy. Gotta try to google more about midi problems with OSX Lion |
Loriann Abreo 10.12.2011 |
Originally Posted by weltraumpapst
Which OSX are you using? |
Loriann Abreo 10.12.2011 |
Originally Posted by weltraumpapst
I can also see s4 in ableton preferences but it doesn't send any midi data there either. |
robin loo 10.12.2011 |
Originally Posted by anttir
restart midi monitor or make sure that under sources all midi sources are checked.. do you see the s4 in the ableton preferences? |
Loriann Abreo 10.12.2011 |
Originally Posted by weltraumpapst
Midi monitor is still not showing any kind of activity, nor ableton, nor Midi Audio Setup in OSX |
Loriann Abreo 10.12.2011 |
Originally Posted by weltraumpapst
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Natasha Garity 11.12.2011 | I had no sucess with using the Audio Midi Setup method that you posted. But after using the 'rescan midi' function in Midi Monitor my midi mode is working again. Don't know why. There must be an issue with the driver or something. |
Loriann Abreo 10.12.2011 | Ok. Weirdest thing happened. I enabled Session from Network in Audio Midi Setup and now it seems to work. Why? Cannot say |
Loriann Abreo 11.12.2011 |
Originally Posted by BURST!
I gotta finish my new live setup by next Thursday and can't even get started because of this annoying problem :/ |
Natasha Garity 11.12.2011 | Will do, I've emailed NI about it. Just waiting for them to get back to me. |
Loriann Abreo 11.12.2011 |
Originally Posted by BURST!
I am looking for the solution constantly all around and will inform my findings as well |
Natasha Garity 11.12.2011 | I've been having the same problems, not getting any midi feedback from my s4 in midi mode. I'm also using OSX 10.7.2. I'm having issues with both 2.1.1 and 2.1.2 Traktor. I'll test an older version tomorrow, but my midi mode was working during my gig last week (not sure why), but has refused to work any other time. |
Loriann Abreo 10.12.2011 | Ok so Now I tried with Novation X-Station and everything works ok instantly. So the problem is with S4 or its drivers S4 sends midi data to Controller Editor but nowhere else. |
Loriann Abreo 10.12.2011 |
Originally Posted by weltraumpapst
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robin loo 10.12.2011 |
Originally Posted by anttir
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Loriann Abreo 10.12.2011 |
Originally Posted by weltraumpapst
Anyways it seems like OS related thingy. Gotta try to google more about midi problems with OSX Lion |
robin loo 10.12.2011 | yes. close ableton put the s4 in midi mode and restart. i'm using 10.6.8 |
Loriann Abreo 10.12.2011 |
Originally Posted by weltraumpapst
Which OSX are you using? |
robin loo 10.12.2011 | akward.. i get feedback from the s4 in midi mode.. in midi monitor and in ableton.. |
Loriann Abreo 10.12.2011 |
Originally Posted by weltraumpapst
I can also see s4 in ableton preferences but it doesn't send any midi data there either. |
robin loo 10.12.2011 |
Originally Posted by anttir
restart midi monitor or make sure that under sources all midi sources are checked.. do you see the s4 in the ableton preferences? |
Loriann Abreo 10.12.2011 |
Originally Posted by weltraumpapst
Midi monitor is still not showing any kind of activity, nor ableton, nor Midi Audio Setup in OSX |
robin loo 10.12.2011 | glad to help.. |
Loriann Abreo 10.12.2011 |
Originally Posted by weltraumpapst
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robin loo 10.12.2011 | hehe.. you're pressing the wrong button.. it's the browse button underneath the loop recorder.. the one with the*magnifying glass |
Loriann Abreo 10.12.2011 |
Originally Posted by weltraumpapst
Only thing that is lit up is that USB-light edit: any yes, it works without any problems with Traktor software |
robin loo 10.12.2011 | are you powering your s4? display only shows something if the unit is powered.. i just tested it and it works like a charme.. connect the s4 via usb, power it and press shift+browse.. |
Loriann Abreo 10.12.2011 |
Originally Posted by weltraumpapst
What needs to be done to turn it on? If I just plug it into my computer and press shift+browse it doesn't give this "ON" on the display. The only way I managed to get it to that mode is by opening Controller Editor (but then it does that automatically) Is there a way to put it to midi mode "standalone"? It shows up in Audio Midi Setup though and is "online" Could there be something wrong with my S4? |
robin loo 10.12.2011 |
Originally Posted by anttir
are other midi controllers working? |
Loriann Abreo 10.12.2011 | When I launch Midi Monitor it says the following: "MIDI Monitor could not make a connection to its MIDI driver. To fix the problem, quit all MIDI applications (including this one) and launch them again. For now, MIDI Monitor will not be able to spy on the output of other MIDI applications, but all other features will still work." And there is no applications on that use MIDI. I checked that several times. |
robin loo 10.12.2011 |
Originally Posted by anttir
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Loriann Abreo 10.12.2011 |
Originally Posted by weltraumpapst
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robin loo 10.12.2011 | the display on the S4 shows "on" when you are in midi mode.. |
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