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windows 32 or 64bit best?? (S2 & Traktor)
Posted on: 05.01.2012 by Chong Prestwich
Just got my S2 yesterday and having the same pop/crack issues as lots of others have (had same issues with VMS4 on both traktor and virtual DJ).

I sort of cured it on the VMS4 by setting up a partition with 32bit win7 on it (instead of 64bit) and a few windows tweaks. I want to do a clean install for my S2 (get rid of vms4 and asio drivers etc) but wondered if it's worth using 64bit for it or will that cause more problems?

Cheers!

Adam.
Marva Lievsay
05.01.2012
Originally Posted by rgtb
64-bit driver support is excellent nowadays. whichever way you go, no need to worry about driver availability unless you have some really old hardware (e.g., i still own an 8-year old HP laser printer for which no 64-bit vista/win7 driver is available).

64-bit has a number of advantages over 32-bit that matter in the real world. But it only has a single disadvantage that is of practical importance: a 64-bit architecture needs more memory than a 32-bit architecture to store a given amount of data.

Most people recommend 64-bit win7 only if your computer has at least 3 or 4GB of RAM. (if you got more than 4GB of RAM, it is virtually mandatory to go for a 64-bit Windows, due to address space limitations on most 32-bit operating systems.) With 2GB RAM or less, 32-bit Windows is clearly superior.

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to be clear, me believes you're having DPC latency issues. chances are your problems are entirely unrelated to all 64-bit vs. 32-bit stuff.


64 bit for sure!
Chong Prestwich
05.01.2012
Just got my S2 yesterday and having the same pop/crack issues as lots of others have (had same issues with VMS4 on both traktor and virtual DJ).

I sort of cured it on the VMS4 by setting up a partition with 32bit win7 on it (instead of 64bit) and a few windows tweaks. I want to do a clean install for my S2 (get rid of vms4 and asio drivers etc) but wondered if it's worth using 64bit for it or will that cause more problems?

Cheers!

Adam.
Chong Prestwich
06.01.2012
believe this shows that 64bit win7 works fine with 3/4 GB RAM and at least a 1st gen i3 CPU then...!

out of interest what is everyones max latency when checking with DPC latency checker, just so we can maybe get some sort of benchmark going?

i got max 386us when doing the following...
  • have 2 tracks running simultaneously
  • have internet browser running with 2 tabs open
  • in traktor, scroll tracks up and down as fast as possible (this caused major issues previously for me!)
  • try a few samples and effects/loops
  • change traktor from full screen and back again a couple of times whilst switching windows to internet browser


this should load the laptop pretty much as high as you would during a gig so if you can manage the above without dropouts i'd say job done, but would be nice to see others latencies out of interest

Cheers,

Adam.
Marva Lievsay
05.01.2012
Originally Posted by rgtb
64-bit driver support is excellent nowadays. whichever way you go, no need to worry about driver availability unless you have some really old hardware (e.g., i still own an 8-year old HP laser printer for which no 64-bit vista/win7 driver is available).

64-bit has a number of advantages over 32-bit that matter in the real world. But it only has a single disadvantage that is of practical importance: a 64-bit architecture needs more memory than a 32-bit architecture to store a given amount of data.

Most people recommend 64-bit win7 only if your computer has at least 3 or 4GB of RAM. (if you got more than 4GB of RAM, it is virtually mandatory to go for a 64-bit Windows, due to address space limitations on most 32-bit operating systems.) With 2GB RAM or less, 32-bit Windows is clearly superior.

---

to be clear, me believes you're having DPC latency issues. chances are your problems are entirely unrelated to all 64-bit vs. 32-bit stuff.


64 bit for sure!
Khadijah Wojtach
05.01.2012
I have a Dell XPS M1330 with Intel Core 2 Duo T7500 2.2ghz 64bit with 3GB Ram. It's 4 years old now and it's runs Windows 7 64bit with Traktor 2 + S4 + a Midifigther without any problems.

I also use this laptop for uni and other day-to-day stuff. Runs great.
Stanley Peckman
05.01.2012
I've got a 4gb 64bit W7 Dell 1545 Inspiron; alledgedly the worst computer make to use with Traktor 2 & the S4. I gig with it, practice with it and get zero drop outs, I'm using it with total confidence.

When I first bought the S4 it was drop out central, so I did a little research;

I didn't partition the drive, all I did was create two user accounts.

First account is 'normal' for every day use.

Second account is my DJ account which is stripped out of all the varoius bits that cause issues. Basically I did all the fixes in the DJ Endo / Dubspot vids on youtube, fix the sample rate in T2 & the latency and I bought a DJTT gold plated USB lead.

Never had a problem since.

PS, if I had the money to spend I'd buy a MBP but I honestly cant justify 3x the cost of a Windows laptop.
Chong Prestwich
05.01.2012
thanks for the reply guys, thought i'd give a lil update.

only just finished installing a 2nd partition with 64bit win 7 on, chipset drivers etc and have got traktor and updates on, plugged in the s2 and all seems to be working fine out the box, so 64bit is defo better (and maybe helped by the lack of VMS4 and ASIO4ALL etc from before)

still gunna do some optimising but since i'm able to mix whilst browsing the net with a max latency (using DPC latency checker) of 386us i'm pretty happy toevening

Cheers!

Adam.
Sarai Suchman
05.01.2012
I used to have a lot of issues with crackling drop outs etc.

After i did all the proper things i still got some crackling and popping.

The 3 things that worked for me to get rid of the problems were:

Disable sleepmode on your USB ports
Disable battery management
Disable Wifi

and Voila no drop outs or anything.
Ngan Ernestine
05.01.2012
^^^ cool. obv post back here if you discover something during troubleshooting. while this community is dominated by mac users, there are still many win users which might be able to help you
Chong Prestwich
05.01.2012
will do, cheers!

and read that article earlier actually, will give it all a try over the next couple of evening s
Ngan Ernestine
05.01.2012
^^^ yeah, with an i3 system with 4 gigs def stick to 64-bit win7.

check out this article (if you haven't already done so):
http://www.native-instruments.com/kn...dio+processing
Chong Prestwich
05.01.2012
thanks for the reply. My laptop has 4GB ram, but was limited to just 3GB using 32bit. I should be ok using 64-bit and 4GB RAM then?

and yeah i'm gunna try a few other things to fix the latency issues, just the question was wondering whether it's best to start with 32 or 64 bit windows 7.

it's an i3 cpu if that makes any difference
Ngan Ernestine
05.01.2012
64-bit driver support is excellent nowadays. whichever way you go, no need to worry about driver availability unless you have some really old hardware (e.g., i still own an 8-year old HP laser printer for which no 64-bit vista/win7 driver is available).

64-bit has a number of advantages over 32-bit that matter in the real world. But it only has a single disadvantage that is of practical importance: a 64-bit architecture needs more memory than a 32-bit architecture to store a given amount of data.

Most people recommend 64-bit win7 only if your computer has at least 3 or 4GB of RAM. (if you got more than 4GB of RAM, it is virtually mandatory to go for a 64-bit Windows, due to address space limitations on most 32-bit operating systems.) With 2GB RAM or less, 32-bit Windows is clearly superior.

---

to be clear, me believes you're having DPC latency issues. chances are your problems are entirely unrelated to all 64-bit vs. 32-bit stuff.

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