USB 3.0 impact?
USB 3.0 impact? Posted on: 21.01.2012 by Lezlie Schoenborn Hello,I have with my new Dell XPS 15 the infamous USB 3.0 problem with the Kontrol S4, so my question reads; does the USB 3.0 port do any difference in comparison to the USB 2.0 ports in terms of latency etc (benefits)? Does the Kontrol S4 take advantage of the bandwith/speed of USB 3.0? In other words, should I call Dell on Monday and scuffle or ignore it and make do with the USB 2.0 ports? Grateful for any input! | |
| Dorie Scelzo 23.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by JSM
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| Dorie Scelzo 22.01.2012 | Uhh |
| Dorie Scelzo 21.01.2012 | Ignore it. USB 3.0 won't have any effect on the S4. I don't believe it'll have an effect on anything, actually |
| Dorie Scelzo 23.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by JSM
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| Dorie Scelzo 22.01.2012 | Uhh |
| Dorie Scelzo 21.01.2012 | Ignore it. USB 3.0 won't have any effect on the S4. I don't believe it'll have an effect on anything, actually |
| Dorie Scelzo 23.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by JSM
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| Dorie Scelzo 22.01.2012 | Uhh |
| Dorie Scelzo 21.01.2012 | Ignore it. USB 3.0 won't have any effect on the S4. I don't believe it'll have an effect on anything, actually |
| Lezlie Schoenborn 21.01.2012 | Hello, I have with my new Dell XPS 15 the infamous USB 3.0 problem with the Kontrol S4, so my question reads; does the USB 3.0 port do any difference in comparison to the USB 2.0 ports in terms of latency etc (benefits)? Does the Kontrol S4 take advantage of the bandwith/speed of USB 3.0? In other words, should I call Dell on Monday and scuffle or ignore it and make do with the USB 2.0 ports? Grateful for any input! |
| Sherri Klepzig 23.01.2012 | Ni knowlegde base and many posts say 3.0 usb does not work with the s4. So why even debate this. So no 3.0 end. |
| Tatum Ansaldo 23.01.2012 | Jesus, everyone give up on the mud slinging and calm the fuck down. Flaming wars are so last decade. USB3 is pretty damn fast, but also at the moment almost totally irrelevant to at least 99% of the people on this community . When a USB3 controller comes about, maybe we should have the speed argument. But since it wouldn't be mac compatible that's probably not going to happen, so let's just all forget about it. |
| Faustino Stringfellow 23.01.2012 | Yawn .... complete twaddle ! and "real buses" made me and my colleagues almost wet ourselves with laughter ........ both the Mac and the PC have shared the same architecture since the demise of the G4/G5 platform. So much so that I run one of my laptops (an ACER) with OSX Lion. As for FW400/800 .. PC's have had that too for many many years. I have done some tests today on this and three other machines, would you like me to publish thee results to show what an idiot you've been. Before calling someone a bullshitter or telling someone that they write garbage, you REALLY need to know your facts first, which you obviously DON'T. I am and have been for the last 26 years a highly qualified and requested engineer, I have been working with Dell and Renasys on the USB3 audio issue (see previous posts). I build in my day job huge data arrays, with EMc using SAS and FiberChannel, I pull out SCSI RAID systems in my sleep ... so when it comes to this subject ..... nuff said... you need to stop buying the Apple song and go back to school and learn something. thanks for Blocking/ignoring me, less for me to do. The rest of the people reading this posting, the stuff published on the internet is often WRONG, do the tests yourself, prove the theory and then you will see the difference. Take out your SSD put it into a USB3 cradle, connected it to your USB3 ports and then look at the results, no bottleneck from SATA2 and you will get over 285Mb/s, if you connect it to eSATA2 or internal SATA2 you will get approximately 115Mb/s. Obviously if you then connect it to a SATA3 port and you have a SATA3 SSD it will get close to 525Mbs .... or at least all of my PC based units do. I use Corsair Force 3 GT 120Gb SATA3 - external OCZ Vertex 3 512Gb x 2 in RAID - internal compared to WD Caviar Black 500Gb SATA2 Seagate ST3 500Gb SATA2 platforms used Dell XPS L701x - renasys USB3 gigabyte P45 based board - VIA USB3 Asus P5 based board - Ti USB3 Sony Vaio i5 laptop (forgot the model) - renasys USB3 block size 4K testing programs HDtune Pro 5 Bricks CrystalDiskMark |
| Dorie Scelzo 23.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by JSM
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| Faustino Stringfellow 23.01.2012 | @mostapha .... not to upset you, but it's you that doesn't understand. SATA = 150mbs SATAII = 300mbs SATA3 = 6gbs - recently released USB2 = 480mbs USB3 = 5Gbs ..... or if you don't believe me, buy a SSD drive, pop it into a USB3 cradle connect it to you USB3 card ... and you will see. 20+ years high level experience and ownership of the kit gives me the right to correct you. |
| Tatum Ansaldo 22.01.2012 | Unless the device you plug into your USB3 port is USB3 compatible you'll see no improvement over USB2.0, in the same way that plugging a USB1.1 device into a USB2.0 port doesn't magically make it faster. The S4 is USB2.0 so USB3 will give you no advantage. In fact I've heard people having problems plugging USB2.0 devices into USB3 ports. |
| Dulce Plimpton 22.01.2012 | USB speeds doesn't matter with midi controllers. The amount of data sent is minimal (not several megabytes per second, to put it that way), so no benefit will be gained. Besides, the SPEED of data transfer is basically the same, the CAPACITY is what has been upped with USB 3.0. And with regards to controllers, capacity has never been a problem. |
| Dorie Scelzo 22.01.2012 | Uhh |
| Faustino Stringfellow 22.01.2012 | USB3 on the XPS will not work for audio, it will never work until they update the chipset (this also includes the 15z and the Gen2 XPS). Data throughput is much higher on an external SSD with USB3 compared to the SATA connection ... so use it for data only, don't plug in any audio gear. |
| Dorie Scelzo 21.01.2012 | Ignore it. USB 3.0 won't have any effect on the S4. I don't believe it'll have an effect on anything, actually |
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