S4 with 4 Effect Units Help

S4 with 4 Effect Units Help
Posted on: 27.01.2012 by Jacquelynn Ninmann
Hi, i'm really a newbie to all that mapping and so, but i decided to give a try today. I have a S4 and a Korg NanoKontrol, and i want to use the NanoKontrol, to control effect unit 3 and 4. As you proberbly know, when you switch to 4 effect units mode, you can only assign unit 1+3 to the left decks, and 2+4 to the right. So my question is: Is there any way to assign all units to deck A + B, and then just control effect unit 3+4 with my NanoKontrol?
Jacquelynn Ninmann
27.01.2012
Originally Posted by mart21har
Nope. That's due to the way traktor has been made. You can map out FX units 3+4 to your NanoKontrol, but there's no way to route all the FX to one deck if i'm not mistaken.
How about routing all the fx units to all decks then? Or just 1+3 to deck A, and 2+4 to deck B?
Jacquelynn Ninmann
27.01.2012
Hi, i'm really a newbie to all that mapping and so, but i decided to give a try today. I have a S4 and a Korg NanoKontrol, and i want to use the NanoKontrol, to control effect unit 3 and 4. As you proberbly know, when you switch to 4 effect units mode, you can only assign unit 1+3 to the left decks, and 2+4 to the right. So my question is: Is there any way to assign all units to deck A + B, and then just control effect unit 3+4 with my NanoKontrol?
Kecia Wnukowski
27.01.2012
No worries, the s4 is a bit specific considering the embedded mapping, the hid protocol, led feedback and the specific routing of the fx units. I wish NI could add some flexibility here. I don't like things being dumbed down by the bottom.
Melinda Wubben
27.01.2012
Yul, that's specifically a mapping issue with the S4 - in the software itself, all the fx units are independently assignable, and there are MIDI assignments to match.

Edit: ...which you know, of course. I didn't realize there was need for such an elaborate workaround on the S4, but yours seems logical, good one.
Jacquelynn Ninmann
27.01.2012
Thank you very much for the help! VanGogo and Yul, i'll try both ideas out, first thing tomorrow!
Charline Dye
27.01.2012
You can map keys on your keyboard or nano control to turn them on in the mixer section or use your mouse. You can also get a user mapping at traktorbible.com that will make it where fx 3 is controlled when S4 is on deck C and fx 4 when on D with the fx buttons at top of s4 will assign 1 and 2 for each deck ( you loose the led lights for these) but to turn on 3 or 4 for any deck you will have to map keyboard or another controller.
Kecia Wnukowski
27.01.2012
Huh? In Traktor Pro, all fx units are independently routable to any deck. You can have all four on one deck, if you wish.
'Huh' yourself...
That isn't true in a sense considering the s4 while you use 4 fx units as:
if you use 4 fx units, each unit is assigned specifically to 1 deck (1 to A, 2 to B, 3 to C and 4 to D), meaning also that one assign button per deck is now unused.
Each fx unit being controlled by the specific side and layer for the controller.
That's how the couple hardware/software work, and that's a fact, nothing to debate here.

That being said there are a few things you can do to change that: the most important thing being to keep a consistent led feedback so you know exactly which unit(s) are assigned to decks.
Two common solutions are to create a user mapping in addition to the embedded one so you use:
-two fx units per deck (units 1&3 to deck a and/or c; units 2&4 to decks b and or/d).
- 4 fx units that you assign to one or several deck (ie one assign button per deck assigns all units to one deck).

The above doesn't change the fact that units are controlled per side/per layer for each deck but it gives you a bit of versatility if you find that relevant (especially if you use another controller or if you rarely switch to layers c&d). It also gives you a consistent and reliable led feedback.

Considering that the assign buttons are only subjected to the use of the shift buttons and no other commands, just duplicate the shift(s) as a modifier inside your mapping and create the fx assign commands to the fx assign buttons correctly (incorporating the modifier's condition correctly too).

This way you can also map an additional function to each single assign button that has been freed (I usually have a low kill function set as hold on those).



Hope it makes a bit of sense and that may be helpful.
Jacquelynn Ninmann
27.01.2012
Huh? In Traktor Pro, all fx units are independently routable to any deck. You can have all four on one deck, if you wish.
But how? When i push the "effect assigment buttons" on my S4, nothing happens?
Melinda Wubben
27.01.2012
Huh? In Traktor Pro, all fx units are independently routable to any deck. You can have all four on one deck, if you wish.
Jacquelynn Ninmann
27.01.2012
Originally Posted by mart21har
Nope. That's due to the way traktor has been made. You can map out FX units 3+4 to your NanoKontrol, but there's no way to route all the FX to one deck if i'm not mistaken.
How about routing all the fx units to all decks then? Or just 1+3 to deck A, and 2+4 to deck B?
Asha Kravetz
27.01.2012
Nope. That's due to the way traktor has been made. You can map out FX units 3+4 to your NanoKontrol, but there's no way to route all the FX to one deck if i'm not mistaken.

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