what is better s2 or s4
what is better s2 or s4 Posted on: 25.04.2012 by Georgia Camas i am looking into buying a conntroler but i don't know if i should get the st or s4 plz help me? | |
| Khadijah Bucker 29.04.2012 | I bought an s2 and upgraded to the s4 within a month haha! S2 is much more portable and another expense to consider is that the cheapest bag I can find to go the s4 is |
| Khadijah Bucker 29.04.2012 | I bought an s2 and upgraded to the s4 within a month haha! S2 is much more portable and another expense to consider is that the cheapest bag I can find to go the s4 is |
| Khadijah Bucker 29.04.2012 | I bought an s2 and upgraded to the s4 within a month haha! S2 is much more portable and another expense to consider is that the cheapest bag I can find to go the s4 is |
| Joslyn Patriarca 19.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by 3Fifths
Picked up an S4 yesterday. Impressed with a few things, severely disappointed with a few others. Maybe its just how I have it setup but I find the 3 band EQ isn't that precise. The "filter" effect seems short, even after calibration. At 1/4 of the way through travel to either left or right from 12 o clock the effect seems used up. Feels like they didn't use all the travel they could have so the effect is very rapid and not very smooth to me. Coming from pioneer DJM 400 (I believe) at work, the filter effect seems alot more "drawn out" with the play on the knob, feels alot better and more effective. My biggest qualm is probably the Gain control for each channel. Instead of your traditional knob like on the other EQ bands, this knob just turns and turns and turns, and the gain increase per turn is minimal. Most of all, since the knob has no stop there isn't a relative position. Typically when I mix at work on CDJs I leave my faders at 100% and just bring in the next track with the gain at around 10'o clock (paying attention to the levels). From there I bring the gain up to the natural 12 o'clock to match the volume with the track currently playing, or a bit higher depending on the track. Because the gain knob doubles as the effects knob, there isn't static positions, the gain addition per rotation is miniscule, and I can't mix the way I'd like to, efficiently with the inability to accurately judge my gain with relative positioning. I'm not sure if theres a way to fix this, but so far I'm not at all pleased with that. I hadn't noticed it at the music store when I had them unbox one. It may actually be a deal breaker for me. |
| Joslyn Patriarca 18.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by 3Fifths
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1EVo8v3OG8[/youtube] |
| Joslyn Patriarca 18.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by dj jack
Quick question about the filter knob on the S4, as well as the S2. By the way I read it, if you're merging two tracks, one filter knob only does 1 EQ? Or is it naturally combined? Wouldn't it sound like shit if one track is filtered while the other isn't.. It would be ridiculous to have to use both filter knobs simultaneously, especially if you need a third hand to slam over a fader in a transition. I work with CDJs at work (company owned_ but need something for home, I can't really afford a S4 but can finance it, so I'm just curious about whats best. I'm also curious about how mapping works with the shift, key, is everything mappable with secondary functionality? I can see this getting around some issues with less control in traktor. if loops can be assigned via Keyboard thats fine with me (Since thats what I do with CDJs in serrato scratch anyways). The lack of EQ on samples / loop decks makes me kind of weary.. |
| Khadijah Bucker 29.04.2012 | I bought an s2 and upgraded to the s4 within a month haha! S2 is much more portable and another expense to consider is that the cheapest bag I can find to go the s4 is |
| Lela Umanskaya 26.04.2012 |
Originally Posted by Xoduzz
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| Joslyn Patriarca 19.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by 3Fifths
Picked up an S4 yesterday. Impressed with a few things, severely disappointed with a few others. Maybe its just how I have it setup but I find the 3 band EQ isn't that precise. The "filter" effect seems short, even after calibration. At 1/4 of the way through travel to either left or right from 12 o clock the effect seems used up. Feels like they didn't use all the travel they could have so the effect is very rapid and not very smooth to me. Coming from pioneer DJM 400 (I believe) at work, the filter effect seems alot more "drawn out" with the play on the knob, feels alot better and more effective. My biggest qualm is probably the Gain control for each channel. Instead of your traditional knob like on the other EQ bands, this knob just turns and turns and turns, and the gain increase per turn is minimal. Most of all, since the knob has no stop there isn't a relative position. Typically when I mix at work on CDJs I leave my faders at 100% and just bring in the next track with the gain at around 10'o clock (paying attention to the levels). From there I bring the gain up to the natural 12 o'clock to match the volume with the track currently playing, or a bit higher depending on the track. Because the gain knob doubles as the effects knob, there isn't static positions, the gain addition per rotation is miniscule, and I can't mix the way I'd like to, efficiently with the inability to accurately judge my gain with relative positioning. I'm not sure if theres a way to fix this, but so far I'm not at all pleased with that. I hadn't noticed it at the music store when I had them unbox one. It may actually be a deal breaker for me. |
| Joslyn Patriarca 18.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by 3Fifths
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1EVo8v3OG8[/youtube] |
| Joslyn Patriarca 18.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by dj jack
Quick question about the filter knob on the S4, as well as the S2. By the way I read it, if you're merging two tracks, one filter knob only does 1 EQ? Or is it naturally combined? Wouldn't it sound like shit if one track is filtered while the other isn't.. It would be ridiculous to have to use both filter knobs simultaneously, especially if you need a third hand to slam over a fader in a transition. I work with CDJs at work (company owned_ but need something for home, I can't really afford a S4 but can finance it, so I'm just curious about whats best. I'm also curious about how mapping works with the shift, key, is everything mappable with secondary functionality? I can see this getting around some issues with less control in traktor. if loops can be assigned via Keyboard thats fine with me (Since thats what I do with CDJs in serrato scratch anyways). The lack of EQ on samples / loop decks makes me kind of weary.. |
| Latina Samon 05.05.2012 | Yeah I figured that was the case, cheers |
| Nedra Fresneda 05.05.2012 | Yes, but don't be mistake into believeing it's an analogue mixer that can be used without a computer (this applies to both units). |
| Latina Samon 05.05.2012 | What do we mean by using timecode with an S4? That it can be used as a mixer for timecoded cdj or vinyl? |
| Somer Vanstraten 29.04.2012 | For all that reason I added an x1, it has eqs, or volume/filters for samples, and dedicated control for play-trigger-retrigger-hotcues, instead of using a shift on the main console (like with the s4) , you have total direct access on all feature, anyway, I'm believe I'm gonna upgrade myself to s4, but only for the possibility of using turntables or cdjs, and use anyway the x1 because I hate to use layer of controls. I want to be able to control everything in every moment. |
| Khadijah Bucker 29.04.2012 | i thought that until i tried it, even for saomething as simple as throwing in a track of white noise on one deck can really add something to a transition |
| Ricki Markman 29.04.2012 | I'm more than happy with my s2. Until I master using two decks I don't really have a reason to add more. |
| Khadijah Bucker 29.04.2012 | I bought an s2 and upgraded to the s4 within a month haha! S2 is much more portable and another expense to consider is that the cheapest bag I can find to go the s4 is |
| Joesph Kasian 27.04.2012 | The way I see it, with anything in life - if you have the funds, get the best. It's a rule I've lived by since my first pay-cheque - the last thing you want to do is regret not getting the best you could when your talents surpass the technology you've bought. If you have the money for the S4; get it. You won't regret it. That's not to say the S2 is poor, not at all - it's an amazing piece of kit but the S4 is better. Think of it like a standard car and one with fancy extras; both get you to the destination, one's just nicer and has more 'special' bits to it. |
| Somer Vanstraten 27.04.2012 | What do you wanna do? 4 tracks or 2 tracks+samples(remix decks in a month)? If you like to use tracks only, s4 for sure!! If you want to use 2+2, s2 have total control over 2 decks (except for cue 5-8, but you can map it), and you can add an x1, or f1 in the future for have more control over samples than a s4. And this combo is also cheaper |
| Lela Umanskaya 26.04.2012 |
Originally Posted by Xoduzz
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| Doug Bieling 26.04.2012 |
Originally Posted by Xoduzz
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| Tennie Dornburg 26.04.2012 |
Originally Posted by padi_04
imo the main things that s4 has that s2 doesnt -4 channels with eq -you can use timecode with the S4 -filter knobs (yes you can map one of the s2 knobs ur not using to filter, but s4 already has it built in right under the eqs) -sample decks |
| Georgia Camas 26.04.2012 | no i still need to buy speakers...... |
| Nedra Fresneda 26.04.2012 | http://www.native-instruments.com/#/...-s2/?page=2901 |
| Layne Koop 25.04.2012 | The S4 is more capable, the S2 is more portable. The S4 allows "full control" of 4 decks and 4 EQ banks. The S2 allows control of two full decks, and two sample decks. The S4 is $900. The S2 is half that. (Do you have other toys you need/want to buy?) |
| Georgia Camas 25.04.2012 | thanks for the help |
| Mariano Weigold 25.04.2012 | I own my S2 since sunday now, and I love it. Great layout, the buttons and knobs are high quality and the only thing the S4 can do better is 4Deck control I believe(which i dont really miss...2 + 2sample/remix decks are enough for me). The rest seems to be nearly the same(nearly!). Just have a closer look at the webpage of both products and then decide what you need. |
| Georgia Camas 25.04.2012 | ya |
| Doug Bieling 25.04.2012 | I believe you will need to give more information about what you want out of your controller before you will get decent answers. Are you just starting out? |
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