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Djm-950?
Posted on: 16.02.2013 by Wilton Keuning
Hey all,

Do you all know if there is any chance of a new Pioneer mixer coming out in the next year or so? I am about to pull the trigger on a DJM-900NXS, and I don't want to drop the $2000.00 and a year later have an old model.

Thanks in advance!
Doreen Schurle
17.02.2013
Originally Posted by Jeff Scott
Joke?

I'm not a big pioneer fan but comparing the 2 is rather silly
Nope. The Behringer DJX900 is basically the same as the DJM900, and it's - get this -
Valene Guasp
17.02.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
They're
Doreen Schurle
16.02.2013		They're
Doreen Schurle
17.02.2013
Originally Posted by Jeff Scott
Joke?

I'm not a big pioneer fan but comparing the 2 is rather silly
Nope. The Behringer DJX900 is basically the same as the DJM900, and it's - get this -
Valene Guasp
17.02.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
They're
Doreen Schurle
16.02.2013		They're
Doreen Schurle
17.02.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
If Behringer make the best mixers in the world for the lowest price why don't all clubs use them then? And why don't we all recommend them on here?

On the DJX900:
RCA output only. Booth, Master, Send+Return are all RCA..
No channel filters/FX
Despite being called "USB", it only has a 2 channel interface, therefore useless for DJing.
Poor build quality - no surprises here.

Just search this community for "DJX" if you want more reasons not to buy them.

You can hate on Pioneer as much as you like, yes their gear is overpriced, but at least argue your case with a company that builds quality gear. Rane, A+H, Vestax, Ecler are quality. Behringer and Reloop are not.
Point taken on the DJX900 not having balanced outputs, but it definitely has FX; as for the USB, I suppose you'd go for the NOX606 if that was your thing.

But wait, Reloop aren't quality? Have you ever actually USED any of their products?

Let's take the RMX-40 USB for example;

- 2 master output channels, one available as balanced XLRs and unbalanced RCAs; the other available as an unbalanced RCA (for booth monitor, etc)
- Separate Rec output
- Balanced 6.35mm jacks for Send/Return
- 2x2 + 2x2 USB audio interface (admittedly, it's a little bit weird as the upstream USB1 is Channel 1, but USB2 is Master; downstream are Channels 1 and 2 (confused the hell out of me at first, but since I'm not a turntablist it's not a big deal; USB2 is actually a godsend for recording mixes on the fly).
- Two Mic inputs (XLR/jack combined as well as a separate rear jack)
- Infinitely adjustable crossfader curve AND upfader curves, per channel
- Momentary and latching EQ kills for each side of the crossfader

And yes, the build quality is rock solid
Doreen Schurle
17.02.2013
Originally Posted by Jeff Scott
Joke?

I'm not a big pioneer fan but comparing the 2 is rather silly
Nope. The Behringer DJX900 is basically the same as the DJM900, and it's - get this -
Valene Guasp
17.02.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
They're
Doreen Schurle
16.02.2013		They're
Cole Maroto
16.02.2013
Originally Posted by NoizeuNit
a DB4 can be had for 2300 with free shipping, where are db4 $3300 (2k +1300)>? and secondly you can find a 900NXS for ~$1400 and yes then ther is a good price difference.

(these prices are mainly for US, so if your elsewhere my pricing wont be accurate)
yeah, i've seen b stock db4s go for about $2300 from pro audio star pretty consistently (also they charge $2900 for a new one). new djm 900 for about $1650+ on an occasional sale once or twice a year. not too much of a difference if you can't find the 900 on sale.

http://www.proaudiostar.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=db4
Kasandra Kreindler
16.02.2013
Originally Posted by ProfessorStrangeman
I have yet to see substantial proof of that, and even if there was, I really like the 900NXS and the difference would have to be pretty huge seeing as it's an extra $1300 to get the DB4.
a DB4 can be had for 2300 with free shipping, where are db4 $3300 (2k +1300)>? and secondly you can find a 900NXS for ~$1400 and yes then ther is a good price difference.

(these prices are mainly for US, so if your elsewhere my pricing wont be accurate)
Wilton Keuning
16.02.2013
Originally Posted by brocklambert
Nobody knows about pioneer products until about a week before they are available. Look at it this way... the DJM-800 was introduced in 2006 and is still relevant today. I doubt the 900 will have a replacement anytime soon, but you never know.
You make a good point, and the 800/850/900 all do basically the same stuff. Thanks!

Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Probably, but most people who buy Pioneer products have more money than sense, so no doubt you'll be spending another $2k on the 950 when it comes out anyway, regardless of what you buy now.
Well good thing I'm not most people then.

Originally Posted by MYE
Get a Xone DB4 it's 10x better than the 900
I have yet to see substantial proof of that, and even if there was, I really like the 900NXS and the difference would have to be pretty huge seeing as it's an extra $1300 to get the DB4.
Kandra Fagler
16.02.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Probably, but most people who buy Pioneer products have more money than sense, so no doubt you'll be spending another $2k on the 950 when it comes out anyway, regardless of what you buy now.
true but pioneer stuff retains their resale value, well at least over here in singapore, try buying any other brand and when you try to sell them you will lost a lot of money, pioneer gear are ALWAYS in demand so they are easier to sell later on when you wanna upgrade and you will still get a lot of money back
Wilton Keuning
16.02.2013		Hey all,

Do you all know if there is any chance of a new Pioneer mixer coming out in the next year or so? I am about to pull the trigger on a DJM-900NXS, and I don't want to drop the $2000.00 and a year later have an old model.

Thanks in advance!
Dione Haimes
17.02.2013		Just to nick in here, reloop stuff is pretty solid, dunno how long it could take a beating in a club though,

My experiences with Behringer have been pretty shit. my first was a behringer DX626, bought brand new, lasted a month before a channel had blown (plus no fader VU), then a DJX900 for a temp mixer while my DJM800 was away, i HATED it, build quality was crap, just a not very well put together mixer
Doreen Schurle
17.02.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
If Behringer make the best mixers in the world for the lowest price why don't all clubs use them then? And why don't we all recommend them on here?

On the DJX900:
RCA output only. Booth, Master, Send+Return are all RCA..
No channel filters/FX
Despite being called "USB", it only has a 2 channel interface, therefore useless for DJing.
Poor build quality - no surprises here.

Just search this community for "DJX" if you want more reasons not to buy them.

You can hate on Pioneer as much as you like, yes their gear is overpriced, but at least argue your case with a company that builds quality gear. Rane, A+H, Vestax, Ecler are quality. Behringer and Reloop are not.
Point taken on the DJX900 not having balanced outputs, but it definitely has FX; as for the USB, I suppose you'd go for the NOX606 if that was your thing.

But wait, Reloop aren't quality? Have you ever actually USED any of their products?

Let's take the RMX-40 USB for example;

- 2 master output channels, one available as balanced XLRs and unbalanced RCAs; the other available as an unbalanced RCA (for booth monitor, etc)
- Separate Rec output
- Balanced 6.35mm jacks for Send/Return
- 2x2 + 2x2 USB audio interface (admittedly, it's a little bit weird as the upstream USB1 is Channel 1, but USB2 is Master; downstream are Channels 1 and 2 (confused the hell out of me at first, but since I'm not a turntablist it's not a big deal; USB2 is actually a godsend for recording mixes on the fly).
- Two Mic inputs (XLR/jack combined as well as a separate rear jack)
- Infinitely adjustable crossfader curve AND upfader curves, per channel
- Momentary and latching EQ kills for each side of the crossfader

And yes, the build quality is rock solid
Alphonso Deitchman
17.02.2013		If Behringer make the best mixers in the world for the lowest price why don't all clubs use them then? And why don't we all recommend them on here?

On the DJX900:
RCA output only. Booth, Master, Send+Return are all RCA..
No channel filters/FX
Despite being called "USB", it only has a 2 channel interface, therefore useless for DJing.
Poor build quality - no surprises here.

Just search this community for "DJX" if you want more reasons not to buy them.

You can hate on Pioneer as much as you like, yes their gear is overpriced, but at least argue your case with a company that builds quality gear. Rane, A+H, Vestax, Ecler are quality. Behringer and Reloop are not.
Doreen Schurle
17.02.2013
Originally Posted by Jeff Scott
Joke?

I'm not a big pioneer fan but comparing the 2 is rather silly
Nope. The Behringer DJX900 is basically the same as the DJM900, and it's - get this -
Valene Guasp
17.02.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
They're
Doreen Schurle
16.02.2013		They're
Wilton Keuning
16.02.2013		I can get a DJM-900NXS for $1,600 ($1,700) with shipping.
Hipolito Scionti
16.02.2013		Fuck DB4s... What's the point of them?
Cole Maroto
16.02.2013
Originally Posted by NoizeuNit
a DB4 can be had for 2300 with free shipping, where are db4 $3300 (2k +1300)>? and secondly you can find a 900NXS for ~$1400 and yes then ther is a good price difference.

(these prices are mainly for US, so if your elsewhere my pricing wont be accurate)
yeah, i've seen b stock db4s go for about $2300 from pro audio star pretty consistently (also they charge $2900 for a new one). new djm 900 for about $1650+ on an occasional sale once or twice a year. not too much of a difference if you can't find the 900 on sale.

http://www.proaudiostar.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=db4
Kasandra Kreindler
16.02.2013
Originally Posted by ProfessorStrangeman
I have yet to see substantial proof of that, and even if there was, I really like the 900NXS and the difference would have to be pretty huge seeing as it's an extra $1300 to get the DB4.
a DB4 can be had for 2300 with free shipping, where are db4 $3300 (2k +1300)>? and secondly you can find a 900NXS for ~$1400 and yes then ther is a good price difference.

(these prices are mainly for US, so if your elsewhere my pricing wont be accurate)
Wilton Keuning
16.02.2013
Originally Posted by brocklambert
Nobody knows about pioneer products until about a week before they are available. Look at it this way... the DJM-800 was introduced in 2006 and is still relevant today. I doubt the 900 will have a replacement anytime soon, but you never know.
You make a good point, and the 800/850/900 all do basically the same stuff. Thanks!

Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Probably, but most people who buy Pioneer products have more money than sense, so no doubt you'll be spending another $2k on the 950 when it comes out anyway, regardless of what you buy now.
Well good thing I'm not most people then.

Originally Posted by MYE
Get a Xone DB4 it's 10x better than the 900
I have yet to see substantial proof of that, and even if there was, I really like the 900NXS and the difference would have to be pretty huge seeing as it's an extra $1300 to get the DB4.
Kandra Fagler
16.02.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Probably, but most people who buy Pioneer products have more money than sense, so no doubt you'll be spending another $2k on the 950 when it comes out anyway, regardless of what you buy now.
true but pioneer stuff retains their resale value, well at least over here in singapore, try buying any other brand and when you try to sell them you will lost a lot of money, pioneer gear are ALWAYS in demand so they are easier to sell later on when you wanna upgrade and you will still get a lot of money back
Bunny Sockel
16.02.2013		Get a Xone DB4 it's 10x better than the 900
Doreen Schurle
16.02.2013		Probably, but most people who buy Pioneer products have more money than sense, so no doubt you'll be spending another $2k on the 950 when it comes out anyway, regardless of what you buy now.
Harley Zitka
16.02.2013		Nobody knows about pioneer products until about a week before they are available. Look at it this way... the DJM-800 was introduced in 2006 and is still relevant today. I doubt the 900 will have a replacement anytime soon, but you never know.

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