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Will a House crowd dig Garage ? :s
Posted on: 11.02.2013 by Nereida Jasnoch
So in a few months I'll probably be integrated into a house concept.
-Quite popular already
-3 times a month in 3 different venues
-Crowd: 25-40 year old Belgians
-House but mainly Deep House & Retro House, no cheesy SHM progressive


I'm getting into house, Tech House/Deep House like 50/50.

Slightly leaning more towards the underground of the genres with lesser known tracks but they are "easy listening" I suppose.

But by getting into bass music in general over the last year or so I also got into garage lately. And to general party goer Garage might just sound as faster deep house with more variation in the drum patterns.
Do you believe they 'll like it ?

Basicly I come from the underground dubstep and dnb and trying to get these parties to play for a larger crowd. I already sent the guy that came up with the concept a tech house mix and he really liked it. Also came to my house to see me mix in real life etc.
Nereida Jasnoch
17.02.2013
Originally Posted by PeteWoods
Bax doesnt suit being slowed down past about 128, i've heard it at 125 and its just too spaced out and stuff, doesn't sound right!
I don't know man, I've heard it a party pitched down to the point it wasn't in it's original key anymore and that stab was way more awesome than usual.
Nereida Jasnoch
15.02.2013
Originally Posted by Mr_Moo
Which sounds EXACTLY like a lot of house music is these days anyway.
Well the whole idea to begin with was to mix it up, well I'll just read the crowd and see how they react. Think I'm gonna start off with this banger:

or maybe the version where Katy B sings over it.

and slowly progress to something with a bigger emphasis on the sub.
Warner Rotberg
15.02.2013
Originally Posted by MyUsername
I believe this is some 4x4 garage
This is 100% in the opposite direction to what I meant by 4x4 garage! This is awful =P

This sound used to be big commerically about 4/5/6 years ago. I cant remember the sub-genre name it got given. I dont mean speed garage btw. That was HUGE in Birmingham 7 - 10 years ago.
Celestine Porebski
13.02.2013
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
you're believeing UK Garage aka 'Garridge'

My understanding is garage was pretty much the new york equivalent of house developing at the same time as chicago house with some differences. while ishkurs guide is kind of annoying for some things it may be useful and has some examples of garage tracks.
Sure the old NY stuff is great (I mean, Larry Levan <3 <3 <3 - who doesn't love his music? I'm sure much of it would still work quite well today), but I'm not sure that's what Mr_Moo was up to.
Nereida Jasnoch
13.02.2013
Originally Posted by 3heads
Could you give some examples of 4x4-based garage? I always thought 2-step was a defining point of garage (but that's most likely to blame on my lacking knowledge - and as I'm not a fan of the 2-step-based genres I never took the time to further look into garage).
I believe this is some 4x4 garage


Oh and Mr_Moo, I intend to drop some "broken beat" garage as well, I believe it's more interesting as a continuous four to the floor beat. Just to mix things up a little.
Nereida Jasnoch
13.02.2013
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
you're believeing UK Garage aka 'Garridge'

My understanding is garage was pretty much the new york equivalent of house developing at the same time as chicago house with some differences. while ishkurs guide is kind of annoying for some things it may be useful and has some examples of garage tracks.
Well I was actually referring to UK Garage, Future Garage, basically all the other Bass music in general.
I thought garage always referred to UK Garage.
Random X
13.02.2013
Originally Posted by LoopCat
I'm actually spinning the same at the moment and it seems to be working well. Lot's of big name DJ's are doing the same thing as well.
Looks like we're doing something right here.
Nereida Jasnoch
17.02.2013
Originally Posted by PeteWoods
Bax doesnt suit being slowed down past about 128, i've heard it at 125 and its just too spaced out and stuff, doesn't sound right!
I don't know man, I've heard it a party pitched down to the point it wasn't in it's original key anymore and that stab was way more awesome than usual.
Birgit Gondal
17.02.2013
Bax doesnt suit being slowed down past about 128, i've heard it at 125 and its just too spaced out and stuff, doesn't sound right!
Warner Rotberg
16.02.2013
Are you on at peak time? That tracks a bit WHOOOOOAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMM WHOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMM. I like it! Although I'd like it better slowed down 15bpm =D
Nereida Jasnoch
15.02.2013
Originally Posted by Mr_Moo
Which sounds EXACTLY like a lot of house music is these days anyway.
Well the whole idea to begin with was to mix it up, well I'll just read the crowd and see how they react. Think I'm gonna start off with this banger:

or maybe the version where Katy B sings over it.

and slowly progress to something with a bigger emphasis on the sub.
Warner Rotberg
15.02.2013


Like this.

Which sounds EXACTLY like a lot of house music is these days anyway. So, in answer to your question: Play what you like. Dont pigeon hole anything or feel like you should avoid it, because its labelled differently. If you believe it'll work try it, if it doesnt, at least you tried. If it does, thumbs up =)
Warner Rotberg
15.02.2013
Originally Posted by MyUsername
I believe this is some 4x4 garage
This is 100% in the opposite direction to what I meant by 4x4 garage! This is awful =P

This sound used to be big commerically about 4/5/6 years ago. I cant remember the sub-genre name it got given. I dont mean speed garage btw. That was HUGE in Birmingham 7 - 10 years ago.
Warner Rotberg
15.02.2013
Haha, yeah, i dont mean UK garage. Im talking US style flavours. "God Made Me Phunky", kinda thing. Zack Toms, etc
Celestine Porebski
13.02.2013
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
you're believeing UK Garage aka 'Garridge'

My understanding is garage was pretty much the new york equivalent of house developing at the same time as chicago house with some differences. while ishkurs guide is kind of annoying for some things it may be useful and has some examples of garage tracks.
Sure the old NY stuff is great (I mean, Larry Levan <3 <3 <3 - who doesn't love his music? I'm sure much of it would still work quite well today), but I'm not sure that's what Mr_Moo was up to.
Lashawn Maycock
13.02.2013
Evening all, hope we're well?

Just thought I'd had me two penneth worth In a very basic nutshell, this is how I see it:

- Garage - term comes from Paradise Garage, so believe US House/Vocal/Soulful House - mid-late 80's pretty much, still very much around and probably covered nicely by Soulful & Deep House.

- Now we have what I suspect is what we're mostly discussing above: UK Garage -

1996/97 - Spawned in the Sunday scene in London, DJ's were playing US Vocal House or US Garage tunes, mainly the dub versions, and upped the pitch to play at a quicker BPM. The term Speed Garage or UK Garage came about around then. A few 'breaks' orientated UKG tunes appeared, Tina Moore etc. Lot's of big tunes in 1997. The first big year of UKG.

2001 - The 2nd coming of UK Garage in the form of developed Garage breakbeat i.e. 2 Step - again mainly in London but also Birmingham and other major UK cities had their own sound developing. Later that year to 2003 ish, the music got quicker to near the 135-140bpm mark; and darker b'lines and different time signatures crept in to form new sub genres of UK Garage:

Dubstep, Grime & Sublow etc were born.

2005-late 2000's - another new take on UKG along with the increasing popularity of Dubstep/Grime etc, 'new school UKG' in the form of 4x4, Bassline etc.

To date - Dubstep obviously still around (but in some different guises such as the awful 'brostep' stuff!) but also Future Garage which takes both old school UKG combined with current production sounds. The Underground Scene is doing well with plenty of new productions across all sub-genres of UKG being put out.

Also just to let you know DJTT Forum's very own Nicky-H has a superb guest mix on my new radio show coming up in a few weeks. The show 'Subculture' launches tomorrow evening on www.music4thepeople.co.uk - focussing on Deep House, Leftfield & Electronica. Also not forgetting another installment of 'This Is Our House' on www.nu-rave.com every Friday evening - Soulful & Deep House, Future Jungle, Rave Breaks, UKG & Old School.

Cheers,

BTTF.

P.S. Am on the lookout for guest mixes, please feel free to give me a shout if you're interested (Tekki, did you manage to see my PM btw?).
Random X
13.02.2013
Right on MyUsername. Digging it!
Nereida Jasnoch
13.02.2013
Originally Posted by 3heads
Could you give some examples of 4x4-based garage? I always thought 2-step was a defining point of garage (but that's most likely to blame on my lacking knowledge - and as I'm not a fan of the 2-step-based genres I never took the time to further look into garage).
I believe this is some 4x4 garage


Oh and Mr_Moo, I intend to drop some "broken beat" garage as well, I believe it's more interesting as a continuous four to the floor beat. Just to mix things up a little.
Nereida Jasnoch
13.02.2013
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
you're believeing UK Garage aka 'Garridge'

My understanding is garage was pretty much the new york equivalent of house developing at the same time as chicago house with some differences. while ishkurs guide is kind of annoying for some things it may be useful and has some examples of garage tracks.
Well I was actually referring to UK Garage, Future Garage, basically all the other Bass music in general.
I thought garage always referred to UK Garage.
Random X
13.02.2013
Originally Posted by LoopCat
I'm actually spinning the same at the moment and it seems to be working well. Lot's of big name DJ's are doing the same thing as well.
Looks like we're doing something right here.
Romelia Stankard
13.02.2013
Originally Posted by 3heads
Could you give some examples of 4x4-based garage? I always thought 2-step was a defining point of garage (but that's most likely to blame on my lacking knowledge - and as I'm not a fan of the 2-step-based genres I never took the time to further look into garage).
you're believeing UK Garage aka 'Garridge'

My understanding is garage was pretty much the new york equivalent of house developing at the same time as chicago house with some differences. while ishkurs guide is kind of annoying for some things it may be useful and has some examples of garage tracks.
Celestine Porebski
13.02.2013
Originally Posted by Mr_Moo
So long as youre dropping the right kind of garage, yes. So long as its sounds housey, the kids wont even know its 12 years old. I wouldnt play 2step style stuff, personally, but thats up to you. Keep it 4x4. No UK Garage MAKE SOME NOIIIIIIIIIIISE *AIR HORNNNNNN!!*.
Could you give some examples of 4x4-based garage? I always thought 2-step was a defining point of garage (but that's most likely to blame on my lacking knowledge - and as I'm not a fan of the 2-step-based genres I never took the time to further look into garage).
Warner Rotberg
14.02.2013
In a word, YES.

Check videos for Joy Orbison @ Eastern Electrics festival (theres only been one so far). He played garage tunes b2b, at an all house event (6 tents and a main stage) and the place went............... WILD.

So long as youre dropping the right kind of garage, yes. So long as its sounds housey, the kids wont even know its 12 years old. I wouldnt play 2step style stuff, personally, but thats up to you. Keep it 4x4. No UK Garage MAKE SOME NOIIIIIIIIIIISE *AIR HORNNNNNN!!*.
Piedad Apelian
12.02.2013
read your crowd, i know i enjoy house sometimes, and absolutely despise garage.
Like literally will leave with the crew im with if garage gets played more than like twice in a set
Ming Devis
11.02.2013
Originally Posted by tekki
I am more and more incorporating the sounds of deep house, tech house, techno and garage into sets.
It all depends on record selection, if you do it properly you will have sets that the Maya Jane Coles following digests like morning porridge.
I'm actually spinning the same at the moment and it seems to be working well. Lot's of big name DJ's are doing the same thing as well.
Birgit Gondal
11.02.2013
loads of Garage-influenced house about at the moment, bass heavy stuff. Dusky etc. If you're looking to go into higher BPM 2 Step you could just see how they react to the housier stuff and go from there?
Dione Haimes
11.02.2013
A little here and there is always good to spice it up, track selection is always key,
Random X
11.02.2013
I am more and more incorporating the sounds of deep house, tech house, techno and garage into sets.
It all depends on record selection, if you do it properly you will have sets that the Maya Jane Coles following digests like morning porridge.
Keturah Mcglashan
11.02.2013
for me, and I am unsure if its the same the world over, but here in the uk I believe the last few years has seen an increase in the variety of music people listen to. I know that years ago, a lot of the big club evening s centred on one style of music in one room. Now todays audience's (and djs) tastes have grown, and started to take in influence's from all over the place, music is more healthy as a result imo. I believe some of it is down to "bass music", as that covered many genre's all with a similar reoccuring theme, bass. Listening to Annie Mac on Radio 1 for the last few years is an example of this. She had a specialist dance music show that previously had centred around a dj's known genre style, and she and started playing the music she just listened to and went out dancing to, so you had everything all in one show. Tease them, introduce one or two tracks gradually and see what the response is.

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