Making a playlist auto update?
Making a playlist auto update? Posted on: 29.11.2012 by Darron Perezmartinez So I use playlists to organize all my genres of music in Traktor. Each of those playlists corresponds to a folder on my hard drive. I hate that every time I add new music to one of those folders I have to delete the playlist and then re-import the folder to playlist just to get it to update. Is there anyway to get the playlist to auto update whenever Traktor opens? | |
| Darron Perezmartinez 10.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by DJ 2 Cut
So iTunes doesn't support flac, what do you do in this situation? Convert the tunes or just have Traktor handle those files? Also I believe the easiest way for me to get my playlists going is to mass label the tracks EDM, hip hop, etc. does anyone know a tagger that will prepend the genre panel in each track with EDM/ and leave the current label so I can just make a smart playlist based on that criteria? I tried to do it in iTunes and it overwrites the current tag. |
| Nestor Epper 06.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by jasonsyn
Nope just show up and fire up your Traktor. iTunes saves everything every time you close it. So it will be up to date every time. |
| Darron Perezmartinez 29.11.2012 | So I use playlists to organize all my genres of music in Traktor. Each of those playlists corresponds to a folder on my hard drive. I hate that every time I add new music to one of those folders I have to delete the playlist and then re-import the folder to playlist just to get it to update. Is there anyway to get the playlist to auto update whenever Traktor opens? |
| Darron Perezmartinez 10.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by DJ 2 Cut
So iTunes doesn't support flac, what do you do in this situation? Convert the tunes or just have Traktor handle those files? Also I believe the easiest way for me to get my playlists going is to mass label the tracks EDM, hip hop, etc. does anyone know a tagger that will prepend the genre panel in each track with EDM/ and leave the current label so I can just make a smart playlist based on that criteria? I tried to do it in iTunes and it overwrites the current tag. |
| Nestor Epper 06.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by jasonsyn
Nope just show up and fire up your Traktor. iTunes saves everything every time you close it. So it will be up to date every time. |
| Darron Perezmartinez 06.12.2012 | That was an absolutely amazing tutorial! Thank you so much for taking the time to write all that out and even include the screenshots. I definitely believe that that's the way I need to go from here on out. It definitely sounds time-consuming to set it up initially but like you said after you get it set up you're ready to rock. Thank you thank you thank you! Just one last question though for you before I get all this going. So when you get to a gig and you first turn on your computer, do you open iTunes let iTunes sort all the new music then close iTunes and then open Traktor? |
| Nestor Epper 03.12.2012 | Well I have been believeing about this post over the weekend and thought I would share my method as it can’t really be explained simply. It took a while to work out the bugs and get it setup properly and of course was very time consuming. But now that I have it setup properly the time I have saved importing my music definitely outweighs the time it spent setting it up. Foundations As stated in Ean’s article “The Art of Prep” the best thing to do in your prep time is to have a rock solid track import system. I would read the article for all the details but just breaking down this one step this is what he states: • Only use iTunes to manage all of your DJ music (lose the folders) • Set iTunes to copy all songs into the library on import • Turn off “Keep iTunes organized” • Every new song is dragged into iTunes (and therefore copied into the database) • Songs are analyzed by Mixed In Key before Traktor import • Songs are ONLY imported into Traktor or other DJ software through iTunes playlist import or through the software’s iTunes browser I believe the best thing you can take away from that all your music is in one centralized place. Instead of being scattered all over the place on your computer it’s all in one spot. Nothing gets lost. If you need to back up your music collection (I recommend doing often) the only thing you need to copy is your iTunes folder. This not only backs up your music but your iTunes database as well. The only difference I follow is that I analyze all my tracks in Mixed in Key bore I put them in iTunes but I don’t believe it matters either way. I created a playlist in iTunes named DJ Tunes and ALL my DJ music gets clicked and dragged into this playlist. This is a temporary spot for the tracks and serves two functions 1) it Copies the files into the iTunes library (And the file into the iTunes music folder) 2) It puts them all in one place for me to verify the file information is correct. (Leading to our next topic) Once all that information is verified to be correct and the way I want it I remove it from this list to make way for more new tracks. Tagging Time Now the key to making all of this work easily and effortlessly come down to just one thing and that’s proper labeling and tagging of your music. If everything follows the same method and system then you can quickly search for tracks and better manage your music. Here are the fields that I have come to rely on in iTunes: Name – Track name obviously Artist - Artist name obviously Comments – I put my Key data in here Genre – Separate Multiple genres with / Grouping – I use this to separate my DJ tracks from regular listening music (More on this later) Star Rating – Warm Up = 1 / Peak=3 / Bangers=5 Not the Average Playlist Now with all your music in one location on your hard drive and all of its information correct and accurate there is only one thing left to do. Make your playlists. Now I could go through and add each track I want to each individual playlist.But why do that when I can have it done for me automatically right? That’s where the genius of “Smart Playlists” comes in. Smart playlists are playlists that area created from criteria you determine beforehand. They are updated in real time by iTunes. (As long as you set it to auto update in the settings which is the default) An example: Creating a list with the criteria of Genre – Contains – “House” any music that is my library with the term “House” in its genre field will automatically show up in this list. Whether that be Progressive house, Electro House, or just house. It doesn’t matter it all goes in. In the example above I could make another that is Genre – Contains – “Electro” and it would contain all songs with a genre containing “electro” including Electro House. So a track with a genre of “electro house” with show up in both lists without lifting a finger at all. And this is where the beauty of it all comes together. Now by looking at my playlists you can see there are allot of things you can do with the smart playlists. It is time consuming but once they are setup there is nothing else you have to do. Just import your songs and tag them. Everything else is automatic. I’m not going to break down all of these. But I’ll explain a few of them… By Key: I like to mix harmonically so all my keys are in the Camelot Wheel notation. These lists are all broken down into these keys so all tracks in that key are listed. Example of how to do this is below: Match all Comment – Is – “2A” By Genre: These are just like the example I listed before. I create a folder for each Genre and put sub genres below that. Match Any Genre – Contains – “House” Genre – Contains – “Caribbean” By Artist: This one is a little tricky because sometimes a guest artist will be listed in the track title and sometimes it will be listed in the artist field. The list is simpler than it would seem. Match any Artist – Contains – “Afrojack” Name – Contains – “Afrojack” Mixes Well With: This goes back to the harmonic mixing. Without going into too much detail how harmonic mixing works, a 2A song can be mixed a 2B, 1A, 3A, or another 2A song. So I just include all of them in the smart list so in a pinch if I need to mix out of a song I can quickly find a song it should sound pretty good with the one playing. What about Grouping? Now before when talking about tagging I mentioned I use the grouping category a lot. And you will notice in my screen shots I use it in all of my smart lists. It’s really simple. I used to have multiple iTunes libraries for different situations. “DJ Tunes” for my club and DJ music, and a regular one just for my “normal” music for listening to. This would cause me problems because I would want to grab a track from on or the other and would have to switch by closing out of iTunes and launching it again with the new library. Not only would this cause issues inside Traktor but iPhones can only sync to one library. So I couldn’t sync to both. Then I thought to myself. “If I am already using smart playlists for my music why can’t I integrate everything into one library? And this is where grouping came in. All my music I use to DJ with I change the grouping field in iTunes to DJ tunes. When creating a smart playlist I make the parent rule “Grouping – is – DJ Tunes” so only my “DJ Tunes” show up in these lists. Another benefit is that if I am at a gig and they crowd is just not feeling it I can always mix it up with some tunes that might not be your typical “club” music. Where does Traktor fit into this? So where does Traktor come into the equation? Well in Traktor you can access your iTunes library by going down the side bar and expanding the iTunes section. It will display your iTunes library and all of your playlist. (Including smart playlists) to import your iTunes library to Traktor simply right click on iTunes and click import to library. It can take a while depending on how may tunes you have. When you add music to iTunes is sure to repeat this step so your new music is added to the Traktor collection. Odds and Ends Just a few notes to add. This has been an ever evolving process and may not work for everyone. I’m just throwing it out here to help anyone who may want it. This works very well for me and has cut my prep time on tracks in half if not more. What I would recommend for a new DJ or any Traktor DJ is to get an external hard drive. Put the following on it: Traktor install and update files Your iTunes library Your Traktor Collection and settings I run Traktor and iTunes from this drive. To move these items to and run those from the drive do the following: (This is for PC as I do not have a Mac) Copy the entire iTunes folder for your “My Music” folder to the drive - Start >Run >%userprofile%\Music Copy your Traktor collection and settings to the drive - Start > Run >%userprofile%\Documents\Native instruments - Grab the most recent version folder To get these programs to use this information do the following ITunes: - Hold shift when launching iTunes - This will make it prompt to choose or create library - Select choose library and navigate to your external drive Traktor: - Opens settings and navigate to File Management - Set all of these locations to the locations on your external drive After you have your external drive setup and working back this up to another drive. The idea behind all of this is that if something happens to your laptop you can buy/borrow another laptop and you have everything you need on the external drive. (Including the install files) The second drive is in case something happens to the first drive. So that’s that. Sorry for the long post. But it was allot of info to get out there. I hope this helps some people and if you have any questions about anything or it’s just not making any sense feel free to send me a message and I can see what I can do to help. |
| Oswaldo Appeldorn 30.11.2012 | You should def try trainspotter, the best tool to do that and more... I love it... http://www.tspotter.net/ |
| Darron Perezmartinez 29.11.2012 | Precisely, I have a folder for Hip Hop, EDM etc, and that's what I want my playlists to be. I would just use the folders themselves in Traktor but I HATE how the damn folder has to auto update every time I open it. Updating 1400 tracks just means standing there for a minute or two until I'm able to find the track I want. It's quite annoying. But after screwing around with smart playlists inside of iTunes, and then importing those playlists into Traktor, I've realized that both software loses tracks in the transition process. I even tried downloading a meta-data editor so I could edit all 1400 tracks that way to put a common denominator like EDM in the comment section to create a smart playlist in iTunes that way. But even that file editor couldn't find about 80 of my tracks. If I knew what songs they were I probably wouldn't even care but who knows which ones they are! LOL |
| Nestor Epper 29.11.2012 | Well I just checked and an iTunes smart playlist cannot organize by file location. I believe that would get a little crazy for it anyways. Are you currently just organizing all your music manually in folders on your PC? |
| Darron Perezmartinez 29.11.2012 | Also after getting those smart playlists made in iTunes do I then need to open iTunes before running Traktor to get them to update the changes made to the root folder? |
| Darron Perezmartinez 29.11.2012 | Well I was able just drag and drop the folder into the playlist section of iTunes and it auto created a playlist based on that folder so that rocks! I did lose about 30 tracks out my 1440 so that does not rock...I wonder if they were just duplicates or if iTunes doesn't support flac it doesn't show those. Thanks for the outside the box resolution! |
| Nestor Epper 29.11.2012 | Well if you use the iTunes integration then they will work. I use smart playlists for everything so my library organizes itself. Just put the track into iTunes and it shows up in genre lists, key lists, temp lists, etc without me doing anything at all. |
| Tatum Ansaldo 29.11.2012 | Sadly not. What you're talking about is called 'smart playlists' and they're only available in iTunes and Serato products at the moment. I wish Traktor had them, along with Rekordbox. |
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