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Minimalistic Mixer
Posted on: 10.02.2013 by Tessie Spice
Hi there, I'm looking for a 4-Channel Midi Mixer (No soundcard).

I want something that ONLy has the simplest things. THis means Channel faders, 3 EQ knobs per channel and not a lot more than that.

Hell, I don't even need a crossfader.

Any suggestions?
Tessie Spice
22.02.2013
Originally Posted by JesusJuice
im probably gonna sound like a newb here even tho im not, but you said minimalistic mixer, and i see people giving you references to go look at midi controllers... if you want very minimalistic mixer? try a djm 500 if you can find one... or maybe an old behringer
I said in the first post that I'm looking for a minimalistic midi mixer, no need for a soundcard
Kellie Myrum
19.02.2013
Originally Posted by epikeddie
How about the BCR2000? I used that before going with an APC40.....wouldn't that work for a mixer?
That would work perfectly for effects in DJ set, not so much for mixing IMO.
Kellie Myrum
19.02.2013
Originally Posted by MisterSwisster
Is that a yes? Or am I being stupid haha.
Will make it more clear than, it's yes to first and nope on second count mister.
Tessie Spice
19.02.2013
Originally Posted by Stewe
"ringing bell sound"
Is that a yes? Or am I being stupid haha.
Leota Dolney
14.02.2013
Originally Posted by bassgoesmeow
Just had a quick question about using a mixer with, say, an X1 or that CMD MM-1. How do you pitch bend with no jog wheel? Do you just sync the whole time?
X1 has pitch bend buttons.
Kellie Myrum
15.02.2013
Originally Posted by MisterSwisster
Does anyone know if the MM-1 knobs have center indents?
"ringing bell sound"
Tessie Spice
22.02.2013
Originally Posted by JesusJuice
im probably gonna sound like a newb here even tho im not, but you said minimalistic mixer, and i see people giving you references to go look at midi controllers... if you want very minimalistic mixer? try a djm 500 if you can find one... or maybe an old behringer
I said in the first post that I'm looking for a minimalistic midi mixer, no need for a soundcard
Armanda Yankauskas
21.02.2013		im probably gonna sound like a newb here even tho im not, but you said minimalistic mixer, and i see people giving you references to go look at midi controllers... if you want very minimalistic mixer? try a djm 500 if you can find one... or maybe an old behringer
Tessie Spice
21.02.2013		The intent of this mixer isn't actually mixing. It's for full control over the effects parameters (Channel faders for D/W and the 3 EQ knobs for the 3 different effect parameters per effects deck.

People will probably say that the MM-1 is overkill to only use for effects but I believe it will be a fun hands-on way for 2 people to DJ together (With my buddy handling mixing and me the effects, then us swapping places every few songs).
Kellie Myrum
19.02.2013
Originally Posted by epikeddie
How about the BCR2000? I used that before going with an APC40.....wouldn't that work for a mixer?
That would work perfectly for effects in DJ set, not so much for mixing IMO.
Merideth Garnder
19.02.2013		How about the BCR2000? I used that before going with an APC40.....wouldn't that work for a mixer?
Kellie Myrum
19.02.2013
Originally Posted by MisterSwisster
Is that a yes? Or am I being stupid haha.
Will make it more clear than, it's yes to first and nope on second count mister.
Tessie Spice
19.02.2013
Originally Posted by Stewe
"ringing bell sound"
Is that a yes? Or am I being stupid haha.
Kellie Myrum
14.02.2013		X1 encoders can be re-mapped for pitchbanding too.
Leota Dolney
14.02.2013
Originally Posted by bassgoesmeow
Just had a quick question about using a mixer with, say, an X1 or that CMD MM-1. How do you pitch bend with no jog wheel? Do you just sync the whole time?
X1 has pitch bend buttons.
Kellie Myrum
15.02.2013
Originally Posted by MisterSwisster
Does anyone know if the MM-1 knobs have center indents?
"ringing bell sound"
Alphonso Deitchman
14.02.2013		An X1 and mixer setup would rely on sync yes.

I'd guess the MM-1 would have center indents as it's being pushed specifically as a mixer, rather than a generic midi device.
Joya Heiberg
14.02.2013		Just had a quick question about using a mixer with, say, an X1 or that CMD MM-1. How do you pitch bend with no jog wheel? Do you just sync the whole time?
Tessie Spice
14.02.2013		Does anyone know if the MM-1 knobs have center indents?
Doreen Schurle
12.02.2013

Can't go wrong with the MM-1 at
Emerson Crist
12.02.2013		My mistake, what I posted wasnt a midi mixer.
Leota Dolney
12.02.2013		If you can find it, the M-Audio X-Session Pro is dirt cheap. It has no LED feedback, looks like a toy as it is all plastic and thus may not stand up to a lot of abuse....but has 4 faders, 3 knobs for each of the 4 strips and a cross-fader.

You are probably better off waiting for the MM-1, but if you need something right away that won't break the bank and won't need to be super sturdy, the x-session pro may be ok for you.

BTW, I have a Xone:K2 that I had bought for that purpose and I don't recommend it for DJ'ing. The channel faders have studio caps which renders them somewhat less than useful for DJ'ing (for me). In addition, the pots for each channel do not have a center detent making them too fiddly for me when adjusting EQs quickly during a mix. just my $0.02
Emerson Crist
11.02.2013		DJR400.jpg

DJR 400 looks pretty awesome. If I had the money, id get one for sure.

http://www.electronique-spectacle.com/djr400.php
Tessie Spice
11.02.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
Midi mixer? Probably the Behringer MM-1 that's on sale next month.

Otherwise there's the Xone K2
These were the two I was considering, just wondering if anything else fits the bill

Also the fact that I wouldn't be surprised if something delays the release of the MM-1 even further haha.
Kellie Myrum
10.02.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
I'm assuming the OP will be doing some DJing with his 4 channel mixer, which would require access to at least 2 channels worth of EQs at the same time.

He did ask for 3 knobs per channel.
OT request 16 analog controls, UC3 has 17 plus some buttons.
Alphonso Deitchman
10.02.2013		I'm assuming the OP will be doing some DJing with his 4 channel mixer, which would require access to at least 2 channels worth of EQs at the same time.

He did ask for 3 knobs per channel.
Kellie Myrum
10.02.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
I believe it's quite a few knobs short of 3 EQs per channel
How's that? I believe crosfader is additional and all controls are MIDI programmable.
Deangelo Boender
10.02.2013		theres also the stanton scs1m? I dont know if there really is a controller on the market that is just four faders with 16 knobs.
Alphonso Deitchman
10.02.2013		I believe it's quite a few knobs short of 3 EQs per channel
Deangelo Boender
10.02.2013
Originally Posted by Stewe
This http://www.djranking s.com/2013/02/0...e-now-cheaper/ can be mapped for all from OT.
That "shift plus push encoder" system seems like a great way to go directly to the bank you want to use! that's the one thing I don't like about my old style nanokontrol, is having to cycle through the pages.
Kellie Myrum
10.02.2013		This http://www.djranking s.com/2013/02/0...e-now-cheaper/ can be mapped for all from OT.
Deangelo Boender
10.02.2013
Originally Posted by Stewe
Didn't knew the 4TrackTrigger was mixer

I saw they got new mini mixer version at low price. There was an article at DJTT about it.
yeah, the ft3 and the dj3 look pretty cool, but they don't have anything that fits the bill for "4 channel faders and eqs only".
I still believe that the xsession pro is the closest someone could get to that, but it's a shame that they're so cheaply made.
I wonder if anyone has ever ventured to crack one open and replace the faders on it? I wonder if they're integrated carbon strip faders like inside the korg nanokontrol?
Alphonso Deitchman
10.02.2013		Only Faderfox that meets the OP's spec is the 4MidiLoop, which is far from minimalistic.
Kellie Myrum
10.02.2013
Originally Posted by Culture_Shock
Lol the first thing I see on that page is the 4TrackTrigger, possibly the most comprehensive, least "minimal" controller that money can buy!
Didn't knew the 4TrackTrigger was mixer

most of their stuff is sold out and discontinued though.
I saw they got new mini mixer version at low price. There was an article at DJTT about it.
Deangelo Boender
10.02.2013
Originally Posted by Stewe
I'd add this to list: http://www.faderfox.de/
Lol the first thing I see on that page is the 4TrackTrigger, possibly the most comprehensive, least "minimal" controller that money can buy!
most of their stuff is sold out and discontinued though.
Kellie Myrum
10.02.2013		I'd add this to list: http://www.faderfox.de/
Deangelo Boender
10.02.2013		m-audio xsession pro, or a korg nanokontrol maybe?
Alphonso Deitchman
10.02.2013		Midi mixer? Probably the Behringer MM-1 that's on sale next month.

Otherwise there's the Xone K2

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