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Minimalist Traktor setup? with a djm t1
Posted on: 24.02.2013 by Qiana Radigan
Hey everyone,

So I'll try to keep this concise. The Pioneer DJM-T1 (or Z2, haven't decided) is looking mighty appealing as a traktor controller. I'm planning on buying one of the two mixers and I need to know what other kind of gear I would need to gain full control over the traktor program? Can I use the mixers as a transport controller (play, pause, scrolling through tracks, setting cues... etc) or would I need something else? Behringer is coming out with that new line of cheap controllers (I should say inexpensive, not cheap) and they look like a good solution. Any suggestions?

To reiterate I just need a simple setup that allows me to control traktor completely, which features a mixer. Don't recommend the s4 or something like that I regret selling my stand alone mixer...

Thanks pilgrims
Isa Erik
26.02.2013
Originally Posted by JCalzonetti
am now looking into the sc2000, thanks a lot.

pros:you can have 3 decks with external mixing, record sets in Traktor via USB and sync efx on mixer via MIDI clock ("quantized")
cons: lousy official .tsi for TPro 2.*.* and no advanced mapping from users
Attachment 16070
Qiana Radigan
25.02.2013
Originally Posted by johnm
this answer really depends on your mixing style and genre of music.

both mixers are feature rich.... once you get past that part.
you would need at least one external midi controller. the F1 being the obvious choice. maybe an X1 if you want to go nuts with the remix decks. then again, you get away with just a midi-fighter type controller. (you dont really need an aditional, contoller, but it would be helpful..)
if your music is not all perfectly beatgridded, you might want a controller with a pitchblend (also for scrolling though a track fast)... the Behringer would be a good option (if its even out yet). maybe a used EKS XP-5, Denon SC2000 or similar..

there is not a 100% correct answer because everyone's style is different and tends to change based on what tools they have.
am now looking into the sc2000, thanks a lot.
Qiana Radigan
25.02.2013
Originally Posted by MRG12EG
i understand why you want a min setup but i kinda well a z2/t1 is over kill for this..
could you not use a midi controller and a sound card with an x1
good point but i would really like to have a stand alone mixer. you just cant beat the versatility
Qiana Radigan
25.02.2013
Originally Posted by 3heads
Just check out for yourself how many midi-mappable buttons there are on the two mixers in question, figure out, how many buttons you need to comfortably control Traktor and then make your decision. Don't really see how we can help you with that.
Well I'm asking if anyone has tried something similar and has a fully functional setup. Thats an answerable question. Thanks for your opinion though, I will look into it.
Celestine Porebski
25.02.2013
Originally Posted by JCalzonetti
the z2 is sexy as f*ck but build quality with the pioneer is hard to pass up too, its a close one. i guess what im asking if it the x1s are totally necessary for a simple setup while maintaining transport abilities
Just check out for yourself how many midi-mappable buttons there are on the two mixers in question, figure out, how many buttons you need to comfortably control Traktor and then make your decision. Don't really see how we can help you with that.
Qiana Radigan
24.02.2013
Hey everyone,

So I'll try to keep this concise. The Pioneer DJM-T1 (or Z2, haven't decided) is looking mighty appealing as a traktor controller. I'm planning on buying one of the two mixers and I need to know what other kind of gear I would need to gain full control over the traktor program? Can I use the mixers as a transport controller (play, pause, scrolling through tracks, setting cues... etc) or would I need something else? Behringer is coming out with that new line of cheap controllers (I should say inexpensive, not cheap) and they look like a good solution. Any suggestions?

To reiterate I just need a simple setup that allows me to control traktor completely, which features a mixer. Don't recommend the s4 or something like that I regret selling my stand alone mixer...

Thanks pilgrims
Isa Erik
26.02.2013
Originally Posted by JCalzonetti
am now looking into the sc2000, thanks a lot.

pros:you can have 3 decks with external mixing, record sets in Traktor via USB and sync efx on mixer via MIDI clock ("quantized")
cons: lousy official .tsi for TPro 2.*.* and no advanced mapping from users
Attachment 16070
Barton Rigazio
26.02.2013
Hey OP, I was in the same exact position as you a few months ago. I have been through my fair share of controllers (vci-300, xone DX, dn-mc3000, kontrol s2) and, just like you, have realized that nothing feels as good as a real mixer. Since, again like you, I like to be as minimal as possible, I was looking for a mixer that also had transport control. I settled with the z2 bc I am a strict Traktor user and have found that the NI controllers just give me the best Traktor experience. This doesn't mean other controllers won't, just my opinion over time.

Now onto your question. Yes, the z2 and djm-t1 both have transport control. The t1 has actual play/pause button. On the z2, however, play/pause is natively mapped to shift+relative. So yeah, an extra button just to play, but you probably can just map yourself a cue button to play. Secondly, as people have said you can pick up a smaller controller like x1 which has dedicated buttons for u already. There will be some doubled up controls but also probably more control too. Then again, my goal has been to use the absolute least number of hardware possible. I have been occasionally adding iPad to my rig for fun, extra controls (like a big play button) and it just looks super cool too.

Made this mix from start to finish with just the z2: http://i.mixcloud.com/CBz58e

Good luck dude!

Ps. Just to add a little bit more : the z2 has everything the t1 has plus a USB hub and is a standalone mixer (for cdjs or tables which I plan to get in the future). The z2 is basically very future proof. The only thing better than a z2 for me would be a z4! Im also looking forward to a future update to the new iPad Traktor app which would allow compatibility with the z2 mixer. Now that would be the ultimate minimal setup while still retaining a real mixer :-)
Anisa Fourte
26.02.2013
While I use a decent sized full timecode setup for gigs, I've used the Z2 alone for many mixes and it works great! Combine in the F1 and you've got yourself pretty much all you need for a full minimalist Traktor setup honestly. The only thing would be programming some pitchbend buttons and you're really golden!
Qiana Radigan
25.02.2013
Originally Posted by johnm
this answer really depends on your mixing style and genre of music.

both mixers are feature rich.... once you get past that part.
you would need at least one external midi controller. the F1 being the obvious choice. maybe an X1 if you want to go nuts with the remix decks. then again, you get away with just a midi-fighter type controller. (you dont really need an aditional, contoller, but it would be helpful..)
if your music is not all perfectly beatgridded, you might want a controller with a pitchblend (also for scrolling though a track fast)... the Behringer would be a good option (if its even out yet). maybe a used EKS XP-5, Denon SC2000 or similar..

there is not a 100% correct answer because everyone's style is different and tends to change based on what tools they have.
am now looking into the sc2000, thanks a lot.
Qiana Radigan
25.02.2013
Originally Posted by MRG12EG
i understand why you want a min setup but i kinda well a z2/t1 is over kill for this..
could you not use a midi controller and a sound card with an x1
good point but i would really like to have a stand alone mixer. you just cant beat the versatility
Jeffrey Akinsanya
25.02.2013
i understand why you want a min setup but i kinda well a z2/t1 is over kill for this..
could you not use a midi controller and a sound card with an x1
Harley Zitka
25.02.2013
You can certainly control the transport functions using custom mapping with the Z2. An X1 would give you even more control, but if you are looking for a mixer-only solution, the Z2 would definitely work.
Jeromy Bana
25.02.2013
this answer really depends on your mixing style and genre of music.

both mixers are feature rich.... once you get past that part.
you would need at least one external midi controller. the F1 being the obvious choice. maybe an X1 if you want to go nuts with the remix decks. then again, you get away with just a midi-fighter type controller. (you dont really need an aditional, contoller, but it would be helpful..)
if your music is not all perfectly beatgridded, you might want a controller with a pitchblend (also for scrolling though a track fast)... the Behringer would be a good option (if its even out yet). maybe a used EKS XP-5, Denon SC2000 or similar..

there is not a 100% correct answer because everyone's style is different and tends to change based on what tools they have.
Dick Korus
25.02.2013
Minimalist setup? You could defiantly put together a good set with just a z2 or a z2 plus an x1.
Qiana Radigan
25.02.2013
Originally Posted by 3heads
Just check out for yourself how many midi-mappable buttons there are on the two mixers in question, figure out, how many buttons you need to comfortably control Traktor and then make your decision. Don't really see how we can help you with that.
Well I'm asking if anyone has tried something similar and has a fully functional setup. Thats an answerable question. Thanks for your opinion though, I will look into it.
Celestine Porebski
25.02.2013
Originally Posted by JCalzonetti
the z2 is sexy as f*ck but build quality with the pioneer is hard to pass up too, its a close one. i guess what im asking if it the x1s are totally necessary for a simple setup while maintaining transport abilities
Just check out for yourself how many midi-mappable buttons there are on the two mixers in question, figure out, how many buttons you need to comfortably control Traktor and then make your decision. Don't really see how we can help you with that.
Iraida Linihan
25.02.2013
Denon DN-x1600 with one or two x-1's, maybe an F1?
Piedad Apelian
24.02.2013
i love my X1s, they make controlling 4 decks multiple FX for transition, soooo simplified in a very very portable lightweight device
Qiana Radigan
24.02.2013
the z2 is sexy as f*ck but build quality with the pioneer is hard to pass up too, its a close one. i guess what im asking if it the x1s are totally necessary for a simple setup while maintaining transport abilities
Piedad Apelian
24.02.2013
i LOVE my Z2, use 2 x1s and a midi fighter 3d + lappy... all i use these days unless i get forced to use timecode vinyl at venues with built in junk lacking setup space

but yeah i can't tell you how great the Z2 is, my favorite mixer these days

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