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Tips for a starting DJ?
Posted on: 05.03.2013 by Gerald Denier
Hello!

I've decided to put my music production on the side for a while to learn how to DJ, and I've downloaded a DJing software (Deckadance, mostly because I love FL) that I believe has a good interface (simple etc.). My question now is, how long do you guys believe I should mess around with it until I'm eligible to get some hardware, and what hardware should I get? I'd prefer if it wasn't that pricy. I'm planning to play EDM music if that has any relevance.

I'm also open for any other tips/pointers that helped you out in your DJing career.

Thank you
Gerald Denier
04.03.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
One more thing - STAY AWAY FROM THIS PLACE!!!

Make sure you spend more time practicing than posting on community s. You'll learn more from an hour mixing (trial and error) than you will from an hours focused reading on DJ sites.

Good luck to you mate. Enjoy it!
Haha for sure!

Thanks, and to you too!
Yu Santellano
04.03.2013
Originally Posted by Naderia
Thank you so much for that info! I don't know if you're up for this, but are you aware of any links that describe different terms in DJing (like the Camelot system) or if perhaps you could run me down the basic ones? If its not too much to ask.
Your best bet is to go and buy a book called "How To DJ (Properly)" By Frank Broughton and Bill Brewster - it's not an expensive buy, and is in my opinion worth every penny. It's easy to read, well illustrated, will tell you everything you need to know. But it also teaches you integrity - what DJing is about, and what it's not about. You won't find silly or pointless arguments about sync buttons, for example :P

PS: "Mess around" with the software till your heart's content. It's the only way you'll really learn it.
Gerald Denier
04.03.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
About an hour. Then you should start learning how to use it properly.
And by properly you mean with hardware, or putting down time and make a complete mix?
Gerald Denier
04.03.2013
Originally Posted by CountenanT
Well here would be a good start! - there's a reviews section along the top browser. But Digital DJ Tips publishes a comprehensive guide every year as well!

Haha well, that's a rather large can of worms to open!
What you're on about is something called "Harmonic mixing", where you mix tracks in related keys in order to make mixes sound smoother and less clashy. It is something worth learning, but it's not something to get too wrapped up in, and definitely don't let it take over your sets. It's more important if you're doing say, a mashup, demo mix, or something similar, rather than just a live mix.
It does become important when you're cutting sharply between tracks though in order to keep a consistent vibe, and make the whole thing sound good. Most of us now use the Camelot system, you can easily find a picture of it, it's just numbers instead of notes and you mix adjacent numbers.
Thank you so much for that info! I don't know if you're up for this, but are you aware of any links that describe different terms in DJing (like the Camelot system) or if perhaps you could run me down the basic ones? If its not too much to ask.
Gerald Denier
04.03.2013
Originally Posted by CountenanT
Well, it shouldn't be a difficult leap if you're already into production.
I don't know much about Deckadance itself, but one tip I'd give for anyone looking to buy say, a controller, is to simply buy according to what you need. Need 20 effects knobs and 4 deck control? Fair enough, but your wallet will hurt. Need simple 2 deck jog control? Just as fair.
You'll figure out what you really need by using the software, see what you like, and what it's awkward using the keyboard and mouse for, and buy accordingly.

Also, don't let anyone fool you by talking about "pro" gear; you'll be just as competent with a mixtrack pro or reloop beatmix (two decent 2 deck controllers by the way), than you will with an S4 or other monster. Although try and avoid gimmicky toys.
Thank you for taking the time!

I'll definitely mess with the software and see what I can use without any hardware. Do you by any chance have a link to a good site that has reviews of different hardware for DJing?

One quick question, do I have to worry a lot about tracks being jn the same note or is it just BPM?
Gerald Denier
05.03.2013		Hello!

I've decided to put my music production on the side for a while to learn how to DJ, and I've downloaded a DJing software (Deckadance, mostly because I love FL) that I believe has a good interface (simple etc.). My question now is, how long do you guys believe I should mess around with it until I'm eligible to get some hardware, and what hardware should I get? I'd prefer if it wasn't that pricy. I'm planning to play EDM music if that has any relevance.

I'm also open for any other tips/pointers that helped you out in your DJing career.

Thank you
Evie Baghdasarian
04.03.2013		Practice, and dont waste too much time reading useless posts on here like most of us. Less DJTT, more time practicing.
Gerald Denier
04.03.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
One more thing - STAY AWAY FROM THIS PLACE!!!

Make sure you spend more time practicing than posting on community s. You'll learn more from an hour mixing (trial and error) than you will from an hours focused reading on DJ sites.

Good luck to you mate. Enjoy it!
Haha for sure!

Thanks, and to you too!
Brunilda Kora
04.03.2013		One more thing - STAY AWAY FROM THIS PLACE!!!

Make sure you spend more time practicing than posting on community s. You'll learn more from an hour mixing (trial and error) than you will from an hours focused reading on DJ sites.

Good luck to you mate. Enjoy it!
Gerald Denier
04.03.2013		Thank you for your replies everyone!

I will get that book for sure, and I definitely feel ready to start learning now!
Yu Santellano
04.03.2013		Do you know if there's an edition later than 2006? Cos that's the one I've got. When that was released, digital was nowhere near the stage that it's at now, so a more recent edition would be helpful I believe.
Brunilda Kora
04.03.2013		Big +1 here for that book. I love it.
Gaynell Rydberg
04.03.2013		I believe your best bet is to watch some youtube videos starting with beat matching. There's not much terminology you really need to know IMO. Beatmatching and cue-ing is enough to keep you busy for a while.

And wow that book is so much cheaper in the UK...
Yu Santellano
04.03.2013
Originally Posted by Naderia
Thank you so much for that info! I don't know if you're up for this, but are you aware of any links that describe different terms in DJing (like the Camelot system) or if perhaps you could run me down the basic ones? If its not too much to ask.
Your best bet is to go and buy a book called "How To DJ (Properly)" By Frank Broughton and Bill Brewster - it's not an expensive buy, and is in my opinion worth every penny. It's easy to read, well illustrated, will tell you everything you need to know. But it also teaches you integrity - what DJing is about, and what it's not about. You won't find silly or pointless arguments about sync buttons, for example :P

PS: "Mess around" with the software till your heart's content. It's the only way you'll really learn it.
Brunilda Kora
04.03.2013		Just time, mate. Lots of time. Expect to start off being rubbish - but keep putting in time, and you'll get better and better.

You don't need ANY hardware to learn how to mix... I believe having hardware to start off is actually limiting. Hardware will not control every aspect of a piece of software - but a mouse and a keyboard will unlock every element of the software.

When you know what you WANT to control with hardware, you'll be in a position to decide for yourself what hardware meets your requirements.
Gerald Denier
04.03.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
About an hour. Then you should start learning how to use it properly.
And by properly you mean with hardware, or putting down time and make a complete mix?
Gerald Denier
04.03.2013
Originally Posted by CountenanT
Well here would be a good start! - there's a reviews section along the top browser. But Digital DJ Tips publishes a comprehensive guide every year as well!

Haha well, that's a rather large can of worms to open!
What you're on about is something called "Harmonic mixing", where you mix tracks in related keys in order to make mixes sound smoother and less clashy. It is something worth learning, but it's not something to get too wrapped up in, and definitely don't let it take over your sets. It's more important if you're doing say, a mashup, demo mix, or something similar, rather than just a live mix.
It does become important when you're cutting sharply between tracks though in order to keep a consistent vibe, and make the whole thing sound good. Most of us now use the Camelot system, you can easily find a picture of it, it's just numbers instead of notes and you mix adjacent numbers.
Thank you so much for that info! I don't know if you're up for this, but are you aware of any links that describe different terms in DJing (like the Camelot system) or if perhaps you could run me down the basic ones? If its not too much to ask.
Brunilda Kora
04.03.2013
My question now is, how long do you guys believe I should mess around with it
About an hour. Then you should start learning how to use it properly.
Yu Santellano
04.03.2013		Well here would be a good start! - there's a reviews section along the top browser. But Digital DJ Tips publishes a comprehensive guide every year as well!

Haha well, that's a rather large can of worms to open!
What you're on about is something called "Harmonic mixing", where you mix tracks in related keys in order to make mixes sound smoother and less clashy. It is something worth learning, but it's not something to get too wrapped up in, and definitely don't let it take over your sets. It's more important if you're doing say, a mashup, demo mix, or something similar, rather than just a live mix.
It does become important when you're cutting sharply between tracks though in order to keep a consistent vibe, and make the whole thing sound good. Most of us now use the Camelot system, you can easily find a picture of it, it's just numbers instead of notes and you mix adjacent numbers.
Gerald Denier
04.03.2013
Originally Posted by CountenanT
Well, it shouldn't be a difficult leap if you're already into production.
I don't know much about Deckadance itself, but one tip I'd give for anyone looking to buy say, a controller, is to simply buy according to what you need. Need 20 effects knobs and 4 deck control? Fair enough, but your wallet will hurt. Need simple 2 deck jog control? Just as fair.
You'll figure out what you really need by using the software, see what you like, and what it's awkward using the keyboard and mouse for, and buy accordingly.

Also, don't let anyone fool you by talking about "pro" gear; you'll be just as competent with a mixtrack pro or reloop beatmix (two decent 2 deck controllers by the way), than you will with an S4 or other monster. Although try and avoid gimmicky toys.
Thank you for taking the time!

I'll definitely mess with the software and see what I can use without any hardware. Do you by any chance have a link to a good site that has reviews of different hardware for DJing?

One quick question, do I have to worry a lot about tracks being jn the same note or is it just BPM?
Yu Santellano
04.03.2013		Well, it shouldn't be a difficult leap if you're already into production.
I don't know much about Deckadance itself, but one tip I'd give for anyone looking to buy say, a controller, is to simply buy according to what you need. Need 20 effects knobs and 4 deck control? Fair enough, but your wallet will hurt. Need simple 2 deck jog control? Just as fair.
You'll figure out what you really need by using the software, see what you like, and what it's awkward using the keyboard and mouse for, and buy accordingly.

Also, don't let anyone fool you by talking about "pro" gear; you'll be just as competent with a mixtrack pro or reloop beatmix (two decent 2 deck controllers by the way), than you will with an S4 or other monster. Although try and avoid gimmicky toys.

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