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Windows vs MAC for DJing...what are drivers?
Posted on: 24.03.2013 by Waylon Apelian
So its time I buy a new laptop, and I dont want the only reason to buy a MAC be because of DJing...

I was believeing of getting an Alienware M14x which costs the same as a Macbook Pro...(Im also a gamer)

Im not sure what drivers are, but Ive heard that macs dont need to upgrade drivers, and windows have to? please enlighten me on this...what are drivers and how do they work? how do i download the latest drivers?
Dorie Scelzo
25.03.2013
Wow
Dorie Scelzo
25.03.2013
Wow
Dorie Scelzo
25.03.2013
Wow
Waylon Apelian
25.03.2013
I dont want to buy 2 differnt machines...I just want ONE machine, for DJing, and for Gaming.

What do you suggest?


#PC

Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50
Alienware is the biggest waste of money you can buy....

You really shouldn't be gaming on a laptop in the first place. For 800 bucks you can build a much stronger desktop build and still have 1k or so for a nice laptop for DJing.
Nedra Fresneda
26.03.2013
Drivers in OS X are usually called kexts, they are preinstalled for a bunch of stuff but that doesn't mean they aren't needed or you won't have to install/upgrade some of them.

Class compliant devices are what used to be called Plug&Play where the hardware works just fine with the generic ones provided by the OS. In this case, updates are handled by the OS.

Originally Posted by pigeontoad
There are games you just can't get on a Mac. That was a deal breaker for me. I just went with a cheap ass laptop and spent the rest on a lobster dinner and a cool pair of sunglasses.
You could always make a wrapper for the game if you want a quick fix or simply make a bootcamp partition to prevent performance drops.


That being said, let's not turn this into yet another Win vs Mac thread folks, otherwise it will get locked.
Lina Rawie
25.03.2013
Originally Posted by pk the dj
does firmware mean driver?
Nope.

A driver is a piece of software that controls a device that's attached to a computer. The driver files sit on your computer's hard drive and basically tell the operating system what the device is and how to control it.

Firmware is code that's present on the device itself. For example, you might buy a CD deck that has upgradable firmware and an upgrade may fix a bug, improve performance, or add a new feature.

With a Macbook, because of what Mostapha said, you are less likely to have issues generally speaking. With a Windows laptop, you may get one that runs DJ software as well as the Macbook for much less money, or you may find that you have issues with DPC latency and the laptop is either crap for DJing or offers worse performance than the Macbook.

The majority of Windows machine vendors don't help the situation either, as they load up their machines with crapware. They get paid to do it, which means they can sell their products cheaper, but that often drags the performance of the machine down. The best starting point for a Windows-based machine is a vanilla install of Windows, fully updated via Windows Update, with the latest drivers for your hardware installed. But it's not always easy to do that as rarely are you actually given a Windows install disc with a pre-built PC. Most of the time they come with a restore disc that can be used to get the PC back to factory settings, but that includes all the crapware.
Alphonso Deitchman
25.03.2013
Originally Posted by 031999
Firmware----drivers that go inside the actual hardware

Drivers----lets the computer talk to the hardware, yes even on mac you will need these, they are always free and take less than 2 seconds to install.
Most class compliant gear (DDJ SX, CDJ 2000, Vestax VCI, Mixtrack Pro etc.) does not require any drivers to be installed for Mac systems. "Drivers" for Mac usually mean control panels for adjusting IO/latency settings outside of your audio application.

Using a laptop for gaming is far more trouble than it's worth. You can get at least 2 or 3 times the processing power in a desktop for less money.
Dorie Scelzo
25.03.2013
Wow
Janyce Henningson
24.03.2013
Originally Posted by sicnarf033
computers have little minions that operate it like a vehicle. they must update their driver's license ever so often.
lol, wouldn't put it past apple if they could find slave labour tiny people - they probably have them in development
Waylon Apelian
24.03.2013
perfect thanks


Originally Posted by makar1
https://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&safe...les+RMX+driver
1st result on Google for "hercules RMX driver" brings you straight to the correct page.

Same for the DDJ-SX
https://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&safe...+ddj+sx+driver
Waylon Apelian
24.03.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
Windows machines require 3rd party ASIO drivers to be installed in order to get low-latency audio suitable for DJing.
Macs have low latency CoreAudio drivers natively built-in that work for many sound cards.

You update drivers by going to the manufacturer's website, finding your product, and looking at the available downloads.
hmm ok
Waylon Apelian
24.03.2013
So its time I buy a new laptop, and I dont want the only reason to buy a MAC be because of DJing...

I was believeing of getting an Alienware M14x which costs the same as a Macbook Pro...(Im also a gamer)

Im not sure what drivers are, but Ive heard that macs dont need to upgrade drivers, and windows have to? please enlighten me on this...what are drivers and how do they work? how do i download the latest drivers?
Gaynell Rydberg
25.03.2013
Intel 4000 is going to struggle with intense 3D programs.

I honestly believe it's a terrible idea to ever build a powerhouse laptop, but if you absolutely must have it all in one laptop, get a Samsung ^. HP Envy is supposed to be decent, but I hate HP build quality. ASUS also makes excellent laptops.
Alphonso Deitchman
25.03.2013
Samsung Series 7 Gamer seems to get decent enough reviews. Try and find someone using it for DJing (online) or find a store that carries it so you can try it out.
Waylon Apelian
25.03.2013
I dont want to buy 2 differnt machines...I just want ONE machine, for DJing, and for Gaming.

What do you suggest?


#PC

Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50
Alienware is the biggest waste of money you can buy....

You really shouldn't be gaming on a laptop in the first place. For 800 bucks you can build a much stronger desktop build and still have 1k or so for a nice laptop for DJing.
Nedra Fresneda
26.03.2013
Drivers in OS X are usually called kexts, they are preinstalled for a bunch of stuff but that doesn't mean they aren't needed or you won't have to install/upgrade some of them.

Class compliant devices are what used to be called Plug&Play where the hardware works just fine with the generic ones provided by the OS. In this case, updates are handled by the OS.

Originally Posted by pigeontoad
There are games you just can't get on a Mac. That was a deal breaker for me. I just went with a cheap ass laptop and spent the rest on a lobster dinner and a cool pair of sunglasses.
You could always make a wrapper for the game if you want a quick fix or simply make a bootcamp partition to prevent performance drops.


That being said, let's not turn this into yet another Win vs Mac thread folks, otherwise it will get locked.
Lina Rawie
25.03.2013
Originally Posted by pk the dj
does firmware mean driver?
Nope.

A driver is a piece of software that controls a device that's attached to a computer. The driver files sit on your computer's hard drive and basically tell the operating system what the device is and how to control it.

Firmware is code that's present on the device itself. For example, you might buy a CD deck that has upgradable firmware and an upgrade may fix a bug, improve performance, or add a new feature.

With a Macbook, because of what Mostapha said, you are less likely to have issues generally speaking. With a Windows laptop, you may get one that runs DJ software as well as the Macbook for much less money, or you may find that you have issues with DPC latency and the laptop is either crap for DJing or offers worse performance than the Macbook.

The majority of Windows machine vendors don't help the situation either, as they load up their machines with crapware. They get paid to do it, which means they can sell their products cheaper, but that often drags the performance of the machine down. The best starting point for a Windows-based machine is a vanilla install of Windows, fully updated via Windows Update, with the latest drivers for your hardware installed. But it's not always easy to do that as rarely are you actually given a Windows install disc with a pre-built PC. Most of the time they come with a restore disc that can be used to get the PC back to factory settings, but that includes all the crapware.
Gaynell Rydberg
25.03.2013
Alienware is the biggest waste of money you can buy....

You really shouldn't be gaming on a laptop in the first place. For 800 bucks you can build a much stronger desktop build and still have 1k or so for a nice laptop for DJing.
Alphonso Deitchman
25.03.2013
Originally Posted by 031999
Firmware----drivers that go inside the actual hardware

Drivers----lets the computer talk to the hardware, yes even on mac you will need these, they are always free and take less than 2 seconds to install.
Most class compliant gear (DDJ SX, CDJ 2000, Vestax VCI, Mixtrack Pro etc.) does not require any drivers to be installed for Mac systems. "Drivers" for Mac usually mean control panels for adjusting IO/latency settings outside of your audio application.

Using a laptop for gaming is far more trouble than it's worth. You can get at least 2 or 3 times the processing power in a desktop for less money.
Dorie Scelzo
25.03.2013
Wow
Lannie Kutay
25.03.2013
Firmware----drivers that go inside the actual hardware

Drivers----lets the computer talk to the hardware, yes even on mac you will need these, they are always free and take less than 2 seconds to install.
Collen Ladanyi
25.03.2013
There are games you just can't get on a Mac. That was a deal breaker for me. I just went with a cheap ass laptop and spent the rest on a lobster dinner and a cool pair of sunglasses.
Janyce Henningson
24.03.2013
Originally Posted by sicnarf033
computers have little minions that operate it like a vehicle. they must update their driver's license ever so often.
lol, wouldn't put it past apple if they could find slave labour tiny people - they probably have them in development
Waylon Apelian
24.03.2013
perfect thanks


Originally Posted by makar1
https://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&safe...les+RMX+driver
1st result on Google for "hercules RMX driver" brings you straight to the correct page.

Same for the DDJ-SX
https://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&safe...+ddj+sx+driver
Alphonso Deitchman
24.03.2013
https://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&safe...les+RMX+driver
1st result on Google for "hercules RMX driver" brings you straight to the correct page.

Same for the DDJ-SX
https://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&safe...+ddj+sx+driver
Waylon Apelian
24.03.2013
I'm on the pioneer website, and it shows

DDJ-SX
Performance DJ Controller

Product Information- Firmware - UpdatesManuals
does firmware mean driver?
Waylon Apelian
24.03.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
Windows machines require 3rd party ASIO drivers to be installed in order to get low-latency audio suitable for DJing.
Macs have low latency CoreAudio drivers natively built-in that work for many sound cards.

You update drivers by going to the manufacturer's website, finding your product, and looking at the available downloads.
hmm ok
Waylon Apelian
24.03.2013
is it hard to find a driver update? cause i spent a long time trying to find the right drivers for my hercules RMX...

will pioneers DDJ SX have easy to find drivers?
Alphonso Deitchman
24.03.2013
Windows machines require 3rd party ASIO drivers to be installed in order to get low-latency audio suitable for DJing.
Macs have low latency CoreAudio drivers natively built-in that work for many sound cards.

You update drivers by going to the manufacturer's website, finding your product, and looking at the available downloads.
Delfina Suedmeyer
24.03.2013
computers have little minions that operate it like a vehicle. they must update their driver's license ever so often.

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