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Posted on: 08.04.2013 by Grisel Freerksen
Hey guys, got a little subject I'd like your views on.

I am currently at University in the UK, studying Biochemistry in the 2nd year. I'm also an aspiring DJ and beginner producer.

The problem is work at University takes up a lot of time (especially heading into 3rd year, I should be expected to have barely any free time) and so does playing out at gigs, or learning ableton from youtube videos etc (normally evening s finish at around 3-4 around here). I also find that time I spend djing/learning to producing etc is a lot more enjoyable, and not mind numbingly boring like my course. With all this is mind I find it hard to concentrate on my studies as I always want to be refining and learning more about DAWs and sound engineering, playing gigs and become a better producer.

I quite frankly hate my course at university and whilst tonnes of people advise not to drop out of school to pursue the music entertainment industry it has crossed my mind before (even though I know a career is not guaranteed), I feel like I want to pursue what I enjoy at a music production college (such as point blank in London) rather write a dissertation about proteins next year...


How do/did you guys at university (or work) balance out workloads with producing etc?

Has anyone actually experienced what I want to do before?

Cheers.
Grisel Freerksen
09.04.2013
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
Just wondering where you are living/studying in UK.

Your community name is a take on Purple Aki a notorious criminal from Liverpool.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akinwale_Arobieke

Haha, I knew someone would get onto it.
Yeah I'm from the Northwest.

Thanks for your views guys.

Think I'm gonna stick with it and see how my next set of exams go.
Shawn Vanhaitsma
09.04.2013
Originally Posted by loverocket
i agree. stay in school, finish and then see what falls into place. its not easy to make $100k a year DJing/Producing.

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Or Likely... for most of us :P Only reason people make it now, is because they are completely idiotic in their asking price.. and club owners are starting to get a clue
Shawn Vanhaitsma
09.04.2013
Originally Posted by DjLiquitATL
music is one of those things that you have to put 100% into to make it FULL-TIME... you get what you put into it...so that being said, part-time practice = part-time success...

you are already in your 3rd year I would not drop out. You can at least have something to fall back on if music doesn't work out.

Myself, I have been dj'ing since 2000 and graduated college in 2004... some years I am more active then others... I try to get an hour/day practice in but sometimes that is hard with the demands of wife, kids, & my dog... I probably average 1-2 gigs a month... enough to put a little extra money in the bank and to keep my presence known in my town for future gigs

but that is enough for me and my lifestyle...you can put more into it then me and be more successful
And even full time.. really isnt much. I have a buddy who organizes and performs 4 evening s a week in a Band, DJ, Hip Hop type style setups. Music isnt something you just go.. Hey.. I like music.. I probably have no clue what im doing now, but.. Yeah

THis isnt like going to college and getting a job after.. And I like that, because then the world would be flooded with even more mediocre talent than it already has
Hayden Raugh
09.04.2013
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
Just wondering where you are living/studying in UK.

Your community name is a take on Purple Aki a notorious criminal from Liverpool.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akinwale_Arobieke
what a nice fellow....
Jerica Salava
09.04.2013
Originally Posted by DjLiquitATL
it is much easier to focus on your skill as a dj/producer when you have a good paying job and do not have to worry about living paycheck to paycheck... people have made it on hustle alone but i'm not willing to do that
i agree. stay in school, finish and then see what falls into place. its not easy to make $100k a year DJing/Producing.

>
Toya Spor
09.04.2013
Originally Posted by purpl3aki
Hey guys, got a little subject I'd like your views on.

I am currently at University in the UK, studying Biochemistry in the 2nd year. I'm also an aspiring DJ and beginner producer.

The problem is work at University takes up a lot of time (especially heading into 3rd year, I should be expected to have barely any free time) and so does playing out at gigs, or learning ableton from youtube videos etc (normally evening s finish at around 3-4 around here). I also find that time I spend djing/learning to producing etc is a lot more enjoyable, and not mind numbingly boring like my course. With all this is mind I find it hard to concentrate on my studies as I always want to be refining and learning more about DAWs and sound engineering, playing gigs and become a better producer.

I quite frankly hate my course at university and whilst tonnes of people advise not to drop out of school to pursue the music entertainment industry it has crossed my mind before (even though I know a career is not guaranteed), I feel like I want to pursue what I enjoy at a music production college (such as point blank in London) rather write a dissertation about proteins next year...


How do/did you guys at university (or work) balance out workloads with producing etc?

Has anyone actually experienced what I want to do before?

Cheers.
I have the same dilemma, being in university for some years. Just get it done, go 100%. It should be your priority so you can get a career and not work shitty jobs. Leave music as a hobby for now. You can leave it and pick it up right where you started.

Plus with that career, you can have more money to buy sweet gear and not have to worry about paying the bills.

Basically this sums up everything everyone has already said, but I believe it's all true.
Federico Vilas
09.04.2013
Best skill you need to be successful in any profession regardless of pay... have to be able to manage your money... you can make all the money in the world and still be a broke ass
Zulma Ramji
09.04.2013
Man do not drop out for music career unless your killing it already.

I have a degree in finance and several years of corporate work experience behind me. I quit my job last summer to focus on music. Not to say i don't like making music and djing but i feel it was a step down in terms of how people perceive me. I know i shouldnt care what other believe and all that but it was quite evident when people were like - why they fuck would you leave your high paying job to work in bars etc. I personally thought it was a step down. I see people who try to make it as a dj and it makes me sad and happy that I have education I can fall on. Reality is 99% of these people will never 'make' it and are forever bound to have shitty low paying jobs. It all depends on a person - if you are ready to sacrifice a lot for doing what you love - maybe its a path for you. But you wouldn't be in biomed if you were that kind of person i believe.
I now rejoined corporate world and spinning and djing on the side. its all about choice management - not time management. we do too many bullshit tasks every day. focus not on how you can do all in one day, but rather on what tasks you can eliminate to fit in your hobbies.

Anyways, don't quit school man.
Janyce Henningson
09.04.2013
When I was at uni it was the some of the biggest partying of my life - which uni you at?
Study a few days a week, set up parties in cellars of student houses for the rest of the week...

Happy days.
Caleb Demillo
10.04.2013
And let's be honest, DJ'ing/Producing is age limited... in MOST cases (I know there are exceptions).

Once you hit 40 and maybe have a family or other life obligations, I doubt you'll be interested in DJ'ing at clubs until 4am like you were when you were in your 20's.

Heck, I'm 37 and don't have much interest in going out. It gets old, just like we all do

Most everyone I know in the scene around my age is in the same boat. We still DJ, love the music, and do some producing, but it's a side hobby. And it's great that way!
Grisel Freerksen
09.04.2013
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
Just wondering where you are living/studying in UK.

Your community name is a take on Purple Aki a notorious criminal from Liverpool.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akinwale_Arobieke

Haha, I knew someone would get onto it.
Yeah I'm from the Northwest.

Thanks for your views guys.

Think I'm gonna stick with it and see how my next set of exams go.
Shawn Vanhaitsma
09.04.2013
Originally Posted by loverocket
i agree. stay in school, finish and then see what falls into place. its not easy to make $100k a year DJing/Producing.

>
Or Likely... for most of us :P Only reason people make it now, is because they are completely idiotic in their asking price.. and club owners are starting to get a clue
Shawn Vanhaitsma
09.04.2013
Originally Posted by DjLiquitATL
music is one of those things that you have to put 100% into to make it FULL-TIME... you get what you put into it...so that being said, part-time practice = part-time success...

you are already in your 3rd year I would not drop out. You can at least have something to fall back on if music doesn't work out.

Myself, I have been dj'ing since 2000 and graduated college in 2004... some years I am more active then others... I try to get an hour/day practice in but sometimes that is hard with the demands of wife, kids, & my dog... I probably average 1-2 gigs a month... enough to put a little extra money in the bank and to keep my presence known in my town for future gigs

but that is enough for me and my lifestyle...you can put more into it then me and be more successful
And even full time.. really isnt much. I have a buddy who organizes and performs 4 evening s a week in a Band, DJ, Hip Hop type style setups. Music isnt something you just go.. Hey.. I like music.. I probably have no clue what im doing now, but.. Yeah

THis isnt like going to college and getting a job after.. And I like that, because then the world would be flooded with even more mediocre talent than it already has
Hayden Raugh
09.04.2013
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
Just wondering where you are living/studying in UK.

Your community name is a take on Purple Aki a notorious criminal from Liverpool.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akinwale_Arobieke
what a nice fellow....
nayit ruiz jaramillo
09.04.2013
Just wondering where you are living/studying in UK.

Your community name is a take on Purple Aki a notorious criminal from Liverpool.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akinwale_Arobieke
Jerica Salava
09.04.2013
Originally Posted by DjLiquitATL
it is much easier to focus on your skill as a dj/producer when you have a good paying job and do not have to worry about living paycheck to paycheck... people have made it on hustle alone but i'm not willing to do that
i agree. stay in school, finish and then see what falls into place. its not easy to make $100k a year DJing/Producing.

>
Toya Spor
09.04.2013
Originally Posted by purpl3aki
Hey guys, got a little subject I'd like your views on.

I am currently at University in the UK, studying Biochemistry in the 2nd year. I'm also an aspiring DJ and beginner producer.

The problem is work at University takes up a lot of time (especially heading into 3rd year, I should be expected to have barely any free time) and so does playing out at gigs, or learning ableton from youtube videos etc (normally evening s finish at around 3-4 around here). I also find that time I spend djing/learning to producing etc is a lot more enjoyable, and not mind numbingly boring like my course. With all this is mind I find it hard to concentrate on my studies as I always want to be refining and learning more about DAWs and sound engineering, playing gigs and become a better producer.

I quite frankly hate my course at university and whilst tonnes of people advise not to drop out of school to pursue the music entertainment industry it has crossed my mind before (even though I know a career is not guaranteed), I feel like I want to pursue what I enjoy at a music production college (such as point blank in London) rather write a dissertation about proteins next year...


How do/did you guys at university (or work) balance out workloads with producing etc?

Has anyone actually experienced what I want to do before?

Cheers.
I have the same dilemma, being in university for some years. Just get it done, go 100%. It should be your priority so you can get a career and not work shitty jobs. Leave music as a hobby for now. You can leave it and pick it up right where you started.

Plus with that career, you can have more money to buy sweet gear and not have to worry about paying the bills.

Basically this sums up everything everyone has already said, but I believe it's all true.
Brunilda Kora
09.04.2013
Originally Posted by skulpture
Work hard play hard
That sums it all up nicely.
Mirian Gaura
09.04.2013
Originally Posted by DjLiquitATL
it is much easier to focus on your skill as a dj/producer when you have a good paying job and do not have to worry about living paycheck to paycheck... people have made it on hustle alone but i'm not willing to do that
I agree with this.

I was a lecturer for 4 years on Creative Music Technology program; and currently there are two ex students who completed their degree and made music/ DJ'ed etc in their spare time.

But now that they have graduated they have been signed (one has just been signed by perfecto for a Bullet in the gun remix btw) and I believe its because they have worked hard at Uni and have that to fall back on.

They both have a 9-5 job, have some cash coming in to pay the bills, etc and mix and produce in their spare time. So technically its a hobby but they are starting to really get into it.

So yeah. Work hard play hard and if you are lucky enough to make it big time the day will come when you have to decided to quit your day job
Hayden Raugh
09.04.2013
OP stick to your course mate, it would be daft to stop it now.

It is do-able to balance between the both, i currently work 3 jobs, in a Law Firm, as a freelance tv presenter/cameraman, and obviously DJing and Promoting evening s....

its all about having the right balance like anything, i spend evenings during the week either digging for music, working on production, or giggin, and on the weekends i do the same around filming around race tracks over the country or world.

Buyin a Ipad and Traktor DJ has made this a lot lot easier though
Federico Vilas
09.04.2013
it is much easier to focus on your skill as a dj/producer when you have a good paying job and do not have to worry about living paycheck to paycheck... people have made it on hustle alone but i'm not willing to do that
Dedra Kreinbring
09.04.2013
I am currently in exactly the same position as you, but studying economics. If I was you, I would get your degree, meaning that then you can have a go at music full time, but you still have a degree to fall back on.
Lashawn Maycock
09.04.2013
Originally Posted by purpl3aki
Hey guys, got a little subject I'd like your views on.

I am currently at University in the UK, studying Biochemistry in the 2nd year. I'm also an aspiring DJ and beginner producer.

The problem is work at University takes up a lot of time (especially heading into 3rd year, I should be expected to have barely any free time) and so does playing out at gigs, or learning ableton from youtube videos etc (normally evening s finish at around 3-4 around here). I also find that time I spend djing/learning to producing etc is a lot more enjoyable, and not mind numbingly boring like my course. With all this is mind I find it hard to concentrate on my studies as I always want to be refining and learning more about DAWs and sound engineering, playing gigs and become a better producer.

I quite frankly hate my course at university and whilst tonnes of people advise not to drop out of school to pursue the music entertainment industry it has crossed my mind before (even though I know a career is not guaranteed), I feel like I want to pursue what I enjoy at a music production college (such as point blank in London) rather write a dissertation about proteins next year...


How do/did you guys at university (or work) balance out workloads with producing etc?

Has anyone actually experienced what I want to do before?

Cheers.
Hi OP,

My advice, stick with the course you're on now and see it through, get the degree under your belt seeing as you're almost there now, however you can sort of do both if you manage your time well.

I went to Uni in 1996 and undertook a Mechanical Engineering degree, which like yourself, involved a lot of contact/lab time. I also got involved in and DJ'd at quite a few University club evening s and also ran a few evening s in town as well. However it was after Uni and when I got a job that I really got stuck in to gigging a lot more because A) More time and B) had a degree related job which paid fairly well, so the pressure was off.

It is possible to do both, but definitely concentrate on your degree first, you can easily concentrate more fully on the DJ'ing/Production afterwards. I spent a lot of time and the majority of my student loan in the local record shops, which was a great way to obviously get music but also make friends/contacts, get involved in the local scene and get gigs.
Federico Vilas
09.04.2013
ah, the best advice ever stated by dayvue... if you want to be successful...DON'T GET A GIRLFRIEND...or at least a high-maintenance one

I dj'ed every weekend when i was in college, had 3 part-time jobs (grocery store, dominos, radio-station) and had a girl-friend who is now my wife and It seems like I had a lot more time back then...weird
Vernie Kuam
09.04.2013
I'm a senior in college in the US (who applied to medical school). As a DJ (and not a producer), I find that it is definitely possible to balance gigs, digging for tracks, and school. Just segment your week so you have "work days" where you work as efficiently for as long as possible to clear up time later in the week. Be disciplined, stay focused, and don't get a girlfriend that demands you spend too much time with her.

Bu the real question is why you study biochemistry if you hate it.
Federico Vilas
09.04.2013
music is one of those things that you have to put 100% into to make it FULL-TIME... you get what you put into it...so that being said, part-time practice = part-time success...

you are already in your 3rd year I would not drop out. You can at least have something to fall back on if music doesn't work out.

Myself, I have been dj'ing since 2000 and graduated college in 2004... some years I am more active then others... I try to get an hour/day practice in but sometimes that is hard with the demands of wife, kids, & my dog... I probably average 1-2 gigs a month... enough to put a little extra money in the bank and to keep my presence known in my town for future gigs

but that is enough for me and my lifestyle...you can put more into it then me and be more successful
Rena Estabrook
08.04.2013
I'd fully concentrate on school. It's only a few more years.

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