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New Residency, NEED HELP. Posted on: 10.04.2013 by Stanley Topoleski been a while since i have posted in here. so i have been out of town for 6 months visitng parents among other things. anyway i got back last month and have been preparing to secure another residency. i should also note that i live in Ottawa, Canada. now getting another residency (had one last year) should not be hard for me. but i am wondering what the going rate for a evening should be. keep in mind i am a signed musician who has had a residency before and have somewhat of a following in Ottawa? In the end its not about the money, but bills do exist...
Stanley Topoleski 13.04.2013	Originally Posted by James Chen Where do you play? I am in Ottawa as well, might go there when you play. From my past experience (Ｉ quite my residency year and half ago), the rate used to be around 200 dollars for the experienced one and about 80 to 100 for the new DJs (Talking about standard 4-hour set). I've heard the rate is dropping because there are a lot of DJs but only so many bars/clubs. i used to play at the daily grind around the time they opened their doors, i also used to host full moon parties with my friends. I have connections with barrymores, but i am also trying for mansion and ritual.
Meaghan Machold 13.04.2013	Originally Posted by bumtsch And I wish we'd get a fixed amount + some kind of extra on the bar more often any bar that says they will pay u extra for people u bring in usually isnt a place ur looking to stay at. ive dealt with some bars here in philly that will pay me 125-150 a evening (4 hour gig, usually top40/house) and then extra money by how many people you bring in thru the door that say ur name. did a few gigs, first evening got paid 150 and a few friends showed up. 2 weeks later i made sure to bring at least 20 people... and they manager said the evening was a bit slow and i only got 125. my advice is to try to avoid commission style payments, as bar managers see many of us (DJs) as completely replaceable by the next desperate college kid DJing ( not to knock the college DJs).
nayit ruiz jaramillo 12.04.2013	Originally Posted by bumtsch Seems to be the norm here, at least in a year's run with my crew. Sometimes it's a bit of both. I've heard "10% off the bar past a varying threshold" a number of times. After that, playing a packed place with a fixed 200 € for the whole evening feels weird. Well it's a first on me. I wish I'd had a share of the bar at some of the evening s I had promoted in the past.
nayit ruiz jaramillo 12.04.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign Where do they even get a share of the door? Only way you get any door money in my experience is if you're actually running the event yourself. Precisely.
Delila Vandommelen 12.04.2013	Originally Posted by Karlos Santos Is this serious? I can't tell. Where in the world does the artist get a share of the bar..? Never heard of it, ever. Seems to be the norm here, at least in a year's run with my crew. Sometimes it's a bit of both door+bar. I've heard "10% off the bar past a varying threshold" a number of times when discussing our gigs. After that, playing a packed place with a fixed 200
Doreen Schurle 12.04.2013	Originally Posted by Karlos Santos Is this serious? I can't tell. Where in the world does the artist get a share of the bar..? Never heard of it, ever. Where do they even get a share of the door? Only way you get any door money in my experience is if you're actually running the event yourself.
nayit ruiz jaramillo 12.04.2013	Originally Posted by P4ULSON .....well if what you say about your level is true it's around 80% of the door 10% of the bar Is this serious? I can't tell. Where in the world does the artist get a share of the bar..? Never heard of it, ever.
Stanley Topoleski 12.04.2013	Originally Posted by P4ULSON .....well if what you say about your level is true it's around 80% of the door 10% of the bar but that only happens if your an established artist and also the resident headlining DJ that fills the place.... btw if the venue you are a resident at is a major one and your signed or whatever.... Your MANAGER should be handling all this not the artist i'm not trying to be negative or an ass just telling you how it is. but if your like the rest of us its $100/evening /1 hour set and a +1. If your headlining around 200/evening /1 hour set and +5 that what i usually see offered. your area might vary depending on Venue and Promoters. my manager will handle this for me, but i am very hands on
Stanley Topoleski 11.04.2013	Originally Posted by hellnegative $200 would be what Id pay you for a 3 hour set. Id say no less than $250 mate. We pay our newbies $50 for one hour sets here. thats what i figured. i still teach on the side anyway
Jorge Furber 13.04.2013	In Montreal, most DJs are payed by the amount of people they bring in when it's a residency in a top40/house venue. But that is only true for the island of Montreal and those type of clubs. And that means if the DJ doesn't bring anyone, he makes nothing. When you step of the island or you check "underground" bars, and by those, I mean anything else that is not top40/house, it is a fixed rate. I really can't tell you how much it is because from a bar to the other, it really changes.
Stanley Topoleski 13.04.2013	Originally Posted by James Chen Where do you play? I am in Ottawa as well, might go there when you play. From my past experience (Ｉ quite my residency year and half ago), the rate used to be around 200 dollars for the experienced one and about 80 to 100 for the new DJs (Talking about standard 4-hour set). I've heard the rate is dropping because there are a lot of DJs but only so many bars/clubs. i used to play at the daily grind around the time they opened their doors, i also used to host full moon parties with my friends. I have connections with barrymores, but i am also trying for mansion and ritual.
Ena Nouri 12.04.2013	Where do you play? I am in Ottawa as well, might go there when you play. From my past experience (Ｉ quite my residency year and half ago), the rate used to be around 200 dollars for the experienced one and about 80 to 100 for the new DJs (Talking about standard 4-hour set). I've heard the rate is dropping because there are a lot of DJs but only so many bars/clubs.
Meaghan Machold 13.04.2013	Originally Posted by bumtsch And I wish we'd get a fixed amount + some kind of extra on the bar more often any bar that says they will pay u extra for people u bring in usually isnt a place ur looking to stay at. ive dealt with some bars here in philly that will pay me 125-150 a evening (4 hour gig, usually top40/house) and then extra money by how many people you bring in thru the door that say ur name. did a few gigs, first evening got paid 150 and a few friends showed up. 2 weeks later i made sure to bring at least 20 people... and they manager said the evening was a bit slow and i only got 125. my advice is to try to avoid commission style payments, as bar managers see many of us (DJs) as completely replaceable by the next desperate college kid DJing ( not to knock the college DJs).
Delila Vandommelen 12.04.2013	And I wish we'd get a fixed amount + some kind of extra on the bar more often
nayit ruiz jaramillo 12.04.2013	Originally Posted by bumtsch Seems to be the norm here, at least in a year's run with my crew. Sometimes it's a bit of both. I've heard "10% off the bar past a varying threshold" a number of times. After that, playing a packed place with a fixed 200 € for the whole evening feels weird. Well it's a first on me. I wish I'd had a share of the bar at some of the evening s I had promoted in the past.
nayit ruiz jaramillo 12.04.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign Where do they even get a share of the door? Only way you get any door money in my experience is if you're actually running the event yourself. Precisely.
Delila Vandommelen 12.04.2013	Originally Posted by Karlos Santos Is this serious? I can't tell. Where in the world does the artist get a share of the bar..? Never heard of it, ever. Seems to be the norm here, at least in a year's run with my crew. Sometimes it's a bit of both door+bar. I've heard "10% off the bar past a varying threshold" a number of times when discussing our gigs. After that, playing a packed place with a fixed 200
Trista Karle 12.04.2013	Not sure if everyone trolling or just op... Interesting information in this thread though appears 100 an hour is going rate which is about what I remember it being in a large metropolitan area that I grew up in. In the smaller area I live I doubt it would be that much for such a specific genre.
Doreen Schurle 12.04.2013	Originally Posted by Karlos Santos Is this serious? I can't tell. Where in the world does the artist get a share of the bar..? Never heard of it, ever. Where do they even get a share of the door? Only way you get any door money in my experience is if you're actually running the event yourself.
nayit ruiz jaramillo 12.04.2013	Originally Posted by P4ULSON .....well if what you say about your level is true it's around 80% of the door 10% of the bar Is this serious? I can't tell. Where in the world does the artist get a share of the bar..? Never heard of it, ever.
Stanley Topoleski 12.04.2013	Originally Posted by P4ULSON .....well if what you say about your level is true it's around 80% of the door 10% of the bar but that only happens if your an established artist and also the resident headlining DJ that fills the place.... btw if the venue you are a resident at is a major one and your signed or whatever.... Your MANAGER should be handling all this not the artist i'm not trying to be negative or an ass just telling you how it is. but if your like the rest of us its $100/evening /1 hour set and a +1. If your headlining around 200/evening /1 hour set and +5 that what i usually see offered. your area might vary depending on Venue and Promoters. my manager will handle this for me, but i am very hands on
Arnulfo Morten 12.04.2013	.....well if what you say about your level is true it's around 80% of the door 10% of the bar but that only happens if your an established artist and also the resident headlining DJ that fills the place.... btw if the venue you are a resident at is a major one and your signed or whatever.... Your MANAGER should be handling all this not the artist i'm not trying to be negative or an ass just telling you how it is. but if your like the rest of us its $100/evening /1 hour set and a +1. If your headlining around 200/evening /1 hour set and +5 that what i usually see offered. your area might vary depending on Venue and Promoters.
Margie Pavell 12.04.2013	hundred bucks an hour...if the place is packed we need to talk about it...
Shawn Vanhaitsma 11.04.2013	In the smaller clubs here warm up acts are Free to 100 bucks depending on the time slot (9 to 11, 10 to 12, 10 to 11 etc). For the 11 to 2 or 12 to 2 slots 300 is about average. Washington DC (as if it really matters I guess)
Stanley Topoleski 11.04.2013	Originally Posted by hellnegative $200 would be what Id pay you for a 3 hour set. Id say no less than $250 mate. We pay our newbies $50 for one hour sets here. thats what i figured. i still teach on the side anyway
Emelina Chillson 11.04.2013	$200 would be what Id pay you for a 3 hour set. Id say no less than $250 mate. We pay our newbies $50 for one hour sets here.
Harley Zitka 11.04.2013	Charge whatever you believe you are worth.
Stanley Topoleski 11.04.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign Mate, I've asked the same question myself many, many times. Unfortunately, very few other DJs will actually discuss money with you, unless they're 100% sure you're not a threat to their residencies. i understand that . but hey if i want to pay my bills and want to get anywhere with my music, i gotta cover each corner
Stanley Topoleski 11.04.2013	Originally Posted by hellnegative What is your soundcloud? Are you playing top 40? What do you do that noone else does? Can you MC? How long are you playing each evening ? Which evening s are you playing? Do you have a wesbsite? How strong is your following? Will you be doing legwork to promote? SOUNDCLOUD: www.soundcloud.com/calgar_c GENRE: Trance, Chillout. STYLE: Unique blend of trance and chillout, a mix of old school and new. been known to make old people bob there heads. laser harp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmCwOFHa_og LENGTH: 4-6 hours WEBSITE: www.calgarc.com FOLLOWING: well known in the underground scene, not so much the mainstream scene PROMOTION: ME + Manager/Friends promoting. Venue also promoting
Emelina Chillson 10.04.2013	What is your soundcloud? Are you playing top 40? What do you do that noone else does? Can you MC? How long are you playing each evening ? Which evening s are you playing? Do you have a wesbsite? How strong is your following? Will you be doing legwork to promote?
Doreen Schurle 10.04.2013	Mate, I've asked the same question myself many, many times. Unfortunately, very few other DJs will actually discuss money with you, unless they're 100% sure you're not a threat to their residencies.
Lawana Spratlen 10.04.2013	the main variable is how many people u pull in
Stanley Topoleski 10.04.2013	Originally Posted by djmetalgear what?? your asking US what they should pay YOU? meanwhile, keeping in mind that you're a paid and signed musician? and it was only 6 months ago that you had a residency? Im sorry, im just confused, why should we know this info any more than yourself? There are TONS of variables that need to be included to even give you a roundabout estimate as to what you should make. i tend to over prepare for things. i ask questions to things even though i probably know the answer to. I am just asking what people believe a good average should be. what variables do you need??
Meaghan Machold 10.04.2013	Originally Posted by calgarc been a while since i have posted in here. so i have been out of town for 6 months visitng parents among other things. anyway i got back last month and have been preparing to secure another residency. i should also note that i live in Ottawa, Canada. now getting another residency (had one last year) should not be hard for me. but i am wondering what the going rate for a evening should be. keep in mind i am a signed musician who has had a residency before and have somewhat of a following in Ottawa? In the end its not about the money, but bills do exist... what?? your asking US what they should pay YOU? meanwhile, keeping in mind that you're a paid and signed musician? and it was only 6 months ago that you had a residency? Im sorry, im just confused, why should we know this info any more than yourself? There are TONS of variables that need to be included to even give you a roundabout estimate as to what you should make.

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