I Need help with crab scratching / 3 click flare
I Need help with crab scratching / 3 click flare Posted on: 14.04.2013 by Arletta Niimi hi, i've been DJing for almost 3 years and i still cant crab scratch. i tried and tried for hours and watched some tutorials but nothing helped, i cant get it. I even destroyed my crossfader for it. :/ i can only scratch with the gater fx on traktor. i can see my crossfader in traktor moving a bit left and right while im tryin' to crab scratch , i can get it this is getting me angry please help. | |
| Arnulfo Morten 15.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by Vekked
change the curve of your crossfader in traktor to sharp you better be using the "AHHHHH" sample.... "it was originally taken from the song "Break the beat"...." do it slow you should hear 3 distinct sounds from your 3 fingers crabbing. once again do it slow to build muscle memory and do it to a metronome or a very simple boom bap beat around 60 bpm and work your way to 128bpm in cut time and regular time it should cover all your notes. Practice like a drummer would. doing rudiments using dynamics it will help develop your style as your building your muscle memory last depending on what hardware your using get an Innofader PRO. Elliot Marx is an awesome electrical engineer and a really good guy. If your mixer or controller is not listed he can probably help you install one if u have a multimeter. It's the best crossfader period better than the rane magnetic faders legit and cosigned!!! It was virtually impossible for me to crab and do some of the faster more advance scratches using a controller with a crappy crossfader. i kept missing notes cause of the platter latency and crossfader latency. Same goes with any crappy crossfader. I usually just do stabs, drops and babies maybe some sloppy aquamans and bubbletaps but no crabs when i have to scratch on garbage gear just my opinion..... |
| Addie Engbrecht 14.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by Patch
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| Arletta Niimi 14.04.2013 | hi, i've been DJing for almost 3 years and i still cant crab scratch. i tried and tried for hours and watched some tutorials but nothing helped, i cant get it. I even destroyed my crossfader for it. :/ i can only scratch with the gater fx on traktor. i can see my crossfader in traktor moving a bit left and right while im tryin' to crab scratch , i can get it this is getting me angry please help. |
| Arnulfo Morten 15.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by Vekked
change the curve of your crossfader in traktor to sharp you better be using the "AHHHHH" sample.... "it was originally taken from the song "Break the beat"...." do it slow you should hear 3 distinct sounds from your 3 fingers crabbing. once again do it slow to build muscle memory and do it to a metronome or a very simple boom bap beat around 60 bpm and work your way to 128bpm in cut time and regular time it should cover all your notes. Practice like a drummer would. doing rudiments using dynamics it will help develop your style as your building your muscle memory last depending on what hardware your using get an Innofader PRO. Elliot Marx is an awesome electrical engineer and a really good guy. If your mixer or controller is not listed he can probably help you install one if u have a multimeter. It's the best crossfader period better than the rane magnetic faders legit and cosigned!!! It was virtually impossible for me to crab and do some of the faster more advance scratches using a controller with a crappy crossfader. i kept missing notes cause of the platter latency and crossfader latency. Same goes with any crappy crossfader. I usually just do stabs, drops and babies maybe some sloppy aquamans and bubbletaps but no crabs when i have to scratch on garbage gear just my opinion..... |
| Nelida Ghouse 15.04.2013 | oh shit, completely forgot faders can have latency now too, lol, that's definitely gotta an important thing to have sorted out |
| Addie Engbrecht 14.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by Patch
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| Jonathan Chiuchiolo 14.04.2013 | you probably have too much resistance on your thumb and are tying to do it all with your fingers... learn the one click flare so you thumb and fingers work together, then the two click flare and finally crabs. It's all muscle memory after the first couple of months, starting from the start will give you the right technique before you learn muscle memory for crabs. Once you have muscle memory locked in, even if it is incorrect it is really hard to change. But that also means once you can do it correctly it's there forever. A good loose crossfader is essential though, all of the reloop controllers have great crossfaders, I had a Jockey 2 and 3 that I raped for a year each and they never wore out. Saying that I assume the stanton DJC4, VOXOA C60 etc.. have good crossfaders as they are made by the same manufacturer. Mixtrack, S2/4, VCI-400, DDJ-T1/S2, ergo etc... faders all suck for scratching. |
| Lora Vandewark 15.04.2013 | Practice makes perfect, I pretty much "air crabbed" when watching TV or not doing anything with that hand. Then one day, it all just fell into place. Also, I'd recommend checking the pressure of your thumb when 'returning' the fader to your fingers. For ages I was pushing too hard so I couldn't get the crab to flow properly. Again... practice! |
| Emelina Chillson 15.04.2013 | Excercise your fingers on both hands. Tap all four of your finers against your thumb in sequence whenever you get a chance repetitively. This will help to develop muscle memory. |
| Michel Compoli 14.04.2013 | i couldn't crab till switched my xfader to "hamster". it made a huge difference for me i believe because of my wrist position that i have become accustomed to and also my thumb elasticity is not the greatest. |
| Brunilda Kora 14.04.2013 | What's the latency like on your midi crossfader? |
| Kori Shatz 14.04.2013 | I agree with all the comments above. A short cut-in time would help for sure but the most important thing is to start slowly to have clear defined notes. You can practice anywhere just practice the motion with your fingers. Try to twiddle first (crab with only 2 fingers) then move to 3 and even 4. |
| Nelida Ghouse 14.04.2013 | yea ideally you want a fader that goes from full volume to silence in about 2mm or less without any fade, that helps to start... after that it's a matter of isolating each individual note, 1 finger = 1 sound, every single time. But really a crab scratch isn't the be all and end all of scratching, so don't let it get to you if it gives you difficulty. It's not a very controlled scratch and many people over-use it anyways... personally I never crab scratch and scratching is my main focus. Having good chirps/stabs/foundation goes way further than being able to sound like a machine gun, lol. |
| Dannie Dimora 14.04.2013 | Depending on what mixer/controller you're using, you need to get accustomed to your xfader's cut-in. Maybe try to tape the ends of the xfader with hard aluminium tape to cope for the long cut in |
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