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MF Spectra "Lag" in Ableton??

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MF Spectra "Lag" in Ableton?? Posted on: 16.04.2013 by Meaghan Machold Hey, Got my spectra mainly to use as a sample trigger in traktor.. but i decided to mess around with it in ableton. I'm a bit new to ableton but know i about latency and what not... anyways, I've noticed somewhat of a "lag" when it comes to lets say the drum rack. Its not huge, but its just enough to throw me off if I'm doing 16ths/32nd rolls... I don't believe its software related.. I believe it may have to do with the MF having legit actual arcade buttons that need to be pressed in order for something to be triggered. I love the iPad for this reason, since its touch sensitive, the trigger is immediate. My question is, has anyone felt/noticed the same thing? (i produce trap/hiphop so snare 16ths/32nd are pretty standard/common in my production.) I was believein of getting an MPD26. Any input for production in ableton is appreciated... especially if you've tried both a MF and a drum pad of sorts.
Ervin Calvery 16.04.2013	Originally Posted by djmetalgear i remember reading a review that the QuNeo had 'gooey' pads, kinda like the launchpad... if u say different, ill tryand check it out next time im at a guitar center I don't believe so - it's quite different from the launchpad. QuNeo's pads each have velocity, x/y, and poly aftertouch - the launchpad's don't have any of those things. I like the feel a lot. I also pmed you.
Meaghan Machold 16.04.2013	Originally Posted by botstein Yes, I recommend Maschine. No, I don't recommend the Korg - definitely not the same pads. What about QuNeo? They can be had for $199. i remember reading a review that the QuNeo had 'gooey' pads, kinda like the launchpad... if u say different, ill tryand check it out next time im at a guitar center
Ervin Calvery 16.04.2013	Originally Posted by djmetalgear thanks. so the maschine is ur recommendation? i dont really wanna shell out 500.. i heard the Korg KontrolPad has some sensitive pads, any experience with that? Yes, I recommend Maschine. No, I don't recommend the Korg - definitely not the same pads. What about QuNeo? They can be had for $199.
Meaghan Machold 16.04.2013	Originally Posted by botstein Yeah. It's just the same as fader taps - they can be faster if the fader only has to move a millimeter or two than if the fader has to move 5 cm for the sound to cut in. thanks. so the maschine is ur recommendation? i dont really wanna shell out 500.. i heard the Korg KontrolPad has some sensitive pads, any experience with that?
Ervin Calvery 16.04.2013	Originally Posted by djmetalgear sorry im a bit confused with what you mean by 'movement'. do you mean actual movement of the button being pressed (button vs pad)? Yeah. It's just the same as fader taps - they can be faster if the fader only has to move a millimeter or two than if the fader has to move 5 cm for the sound to cut in.
Meaghan Machold 16.04.2013	Originally Posted by botstein Hey - I love pads and have tried many with drum racks. I believe you might be disappointed with an MPD - check out Maschine and QuNeo. The more physical movement required, the lower the upper limit of the speed with which you could play. Different controllers handle the on/off MIDI messages for each of the buttons and pads differently. sorry im a bit confused with what you mean by 'movement'. do you mean actual movement of the button being pressed (button vs pad)?
Meaghan Machold 16.04.2013	Hey, Got my spectra mainly to use as a sample trigger in traktor.. but i decided to mess around with it in ableton. I'm a bit new to ableton but know i about latency and what not... anyways, I've noticed somewhat of a "lag" when it comes to lets say the drum rack. Its not huge, but its just enough to throw me off if I'm doing 16ths/32nd rolls... I don't believe its software related.. I believe it may have to do with the MF having legit actual arcade buttons that need to be pressed in order for something to be triggered. I love the iPad for this reason, since its touch sensitive, the trigger is immediate. My question is, has anyone felt/noticed the same thing? (i produce trap/hiphop so snare 16ths/32nd are pretty standard/common in my production.) I was believein of getting an MPD26. Any input for production in ableton is appreciated... especially if you've tried both a MF and a drum pad of sorts.
Ervin Calvery 16.04.2013	Originally Posted by djmetalgear i remember reading a review that the QuNeo had 'gooey' pads, kinda like the launchpad... if u say different, ill tryand check it out next time im at a guitar center I don't believe so - it's quite different from the launchpad. QuNeo's pads each have velocity, x/y, and poly aftertouch - the launchpad's don't have any of those things. I like the feel a lot. I also pmed you.
Meaghan Machold 16.04.2013	Originally Posted by botstein Yes, I recommend Maschine. No, I don't recommend the Korg - definitely not the same pads. What about QuNeo? They can be had for $199. i remember reading a review that the QuNeo had 'gooey' pads, kinda like the launchpad... if u say different, ill tryand check it out next time im at a guitar center
Ervin Calvery 16.04.2013	Originally Posted by djmetalgear thanks. so the maschine is ur recommendation? i dont really wanna shell out 500.. i heard the Korg KontrolPad has some sensitive pads, any experience with that? Yes, I recommend Maschine. No, I don't recommend the Korg - definitely not the same pads. What about QuNeo? They can be had for $199.
Meaghan Machold 16.04.2013	Originally Posted by botstein Yeah. It's just the same as fader taps - they can be faster if the fader only has to move a millimeter or two than if the fader has to move 5 cm for the sound to cut in. thanks. so the maschine is ur recommendation? i dont really wanna shell out 500.. i heard the Korg KontrolPad has some sensitive pads, any experience with that?
Ervin Calvery 16.04.2013	Originally Posted by djmetalgear sorry im a bit confused with what you mean by 'movement'. do you mean actual movement of the button being pressed (button vs pad)? Yeah. It's just the same as fader taps - they can be faster if the fader only has to move a millimeter or two than if the fader has to move 5 cm for the sound to cut in.
Meaghan Machold 16.04.2013	Originally Posted by botstein Hey - I love pads and have tried many with drum racks. I believe you might be disappointed with an MPD - check out Maschine and QuNeo. The more physical movement required, the lower the upper limit of the speed with which you could play. Different controllers handle the on/off MIDI messages for each of the buttons and pads differently. sorry im a bit confused with what you mean by 'movement'. do you mean actual movement of the button being pressed (button vs pad)?
Ervin Calvery 16.04.2013	Hey - I love pads and have tried many with drum racks. I believe you might be disappointed with an MPD - check out Maschine and QuNeo. The more physical movement required, the lower the upper limit of the speed with which you could play. Different controllers handle the on/off MIDI messages for each of the buttons and pads differently.

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