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Low Input Scratch Pro 2. Posted on: 17.04.2013 by Melinda Shick Hey guys wondering if anybody can help, i've had a google and searched about but i believe it's better to just ask as i read mixed stuff. I've just upgraded to scratch pro 2. I'm using two 1210's, Audio 8. When i attempt to calibrate the decks 9/10 times it says "Unknown Medium - Low Input", some times it works but usually loses track again pretty quickly. Now i'm using pretty shitty carts/stylus (battered stanton 500's), and my tables aren't perfectly even, but records sound fine. No problems with grounding, as records are fine (Grounded to A8 anyway). Tracking weights on 3.5 and 3.3 (I have mismatched headshells), antiskate 3. Is the input to the adc just THAT low? I've played on even more ghetto setups than mine using serato and never had this problem. If it's the carts, not a massive deal as i'm getting some m44's anyway once i got the cash. (For a stop-gap, would these work http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/350397205578 ?) And one last question, i bought the A8 second hand on ebay - the "Input Mode" button doesn't have the same click (or appear to actually do anything, leds don't change) as the Source and Mic/Line, but is this just because scratch 2 doesn't allow input switching outside of preferences? If not i've been jipped a bit. Cheers
Melinda Shick 17.04.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 The mixer should not have any effect on how turntables work with Traktor, since it's later on in the chain (after Traktor's outputs). If you're just testing the Audio 8 the mixer should not even be connected tbh. Put turntables directly into the Audio 8, and use Internal Mixing Mode with headphones/speakers connected directly to the A8. Went through setup video, everything was identical (bar the XLR connections on multicores). So i removed everything from the mixer, timecode signals are now working (left is a bit weaker, but that needle is worse i'm sure). Plugged back in line inputs to mixer, plugged back in the phono outs. EVERYTHING WORKING! Very bizzare... Yea I get what your believeing, you believe your line inputs on the mixer might be bad. Still wouldnt affect why you are getting a weak timecode signal. For your reference, the input mode button doesnt work the way you believe....basically all I'm saying is that it's fine. Just make sure the audio 8 is set to "timecode vinyl" on channels A/B (or 1,2,3,4), if they are please make sure you are using the MK2 Vinyl, because depending on when you bought Scratch pro, the original timecode vinyls (ones that used to come w/ the audio 8 in the scratch package) will not work. I was actually believeing the phono amps on the A8 were fucked, or some kind of interference from my mix, which it appears to have been (oddly gone after unplugging-repluggin :/). I'm using MK1 timecode, but everything is working fine now!
Addie Engbrecht 17.04.2013	Originally Posted by Maxted Line inputs sound fine. Something quite weird happens, when i flick to phono on the mixer and just play the vinyl through, traktors deck inputs show a nice hot signal, when i switch back to line on the mixer, so that it's actually traktors output, the signal drops. Also, it sounds like the highs are being cut a bit, or quality degraded, hard to tell because it's so quiet and when gained to fuck it's just horrible. Defo a hardware issue, hoping it's the mixer. Yea I get what your believeing, you believe your line inputs on the mixer might be bad. Still wouldnt affect why you are getting a weak timecode signal. For your reference, the input mode button doesnt work the way you believe....basically all I'm saying is that it's fine. Just make sure the audio 8 is set to "timecode vinyl" on channels A/B (or 1,2,3,4), if they are please make sure you are using the MK2 Vinyl, because depending on when you bought Scratch pro, the original timecode vinyls (ones that used to come w/ the audio 8 in the scratch package) will not work.
Melinda Shick 17.04.2013	Originally Posted by OmniRoss Is it possible to try the mixer with a different sound card? I could, i could run my monitors straight off the A8, but it's a pain. I can always try it on a friends setup, only got delivered 2 days ago so i could open ebay dispute no problem. Which inputs are you using on the Audio 8? Only 2 inputs have phono preamps on. 1/2 & 3/4. I'll try something through line now.
Annalisa Shogren 17.04.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 Which inputs are you using on the Audio 8? Only 2 inputs have phono preamps on. Good point.
Annalisa Shogren 17.04.2013	Originally Posted by Maxted Extremely weak input, had to have full gain on mixer and my studio soundcard (which feeds my monitors) to even hear it. Yeah, intermittently with neither one being worse, the signal when it does get one barely lasts 10 seconds. Yup, they were grounded to the mixer when i first tried it, thought A8 might change but hasn't. All clean, my needles and carts are battered (very noisy) but signal strength wise they perform perfectly with records. I'm using a really shitty old Ecler thing i picked up for free, again works perfectly with records/line inputs though. The timecode doesn't touch the mixer anyway does it? Yeah. Could the ADCs be fucked? Is it possible to try the mixer with a different sound card? If I were you, I'd take the A8 to a music shop and try it on one of their mixers to see if you get the same results. If so, get onto Paypal and get a refund.
Melinda Shick 17.04.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 Does normal vinyl music sound good going through Traktor's decks set to Live Input? Extremely weak input, had to have full gain on mixer and my studio soundcard (which feeds my monitors) to even hear it. Does the unknown medium thing occur on both decks? Yeah, intermittently with neither one being worse, the signal when it does get one barely lasts 10 seconds. Have you tried grounding the tables to the mixer and not the A8? Yup, they were grounded to the mixer when i first tried it, thought A8 might change but hasn't. Have you checked the contacts on the needles/inside the tonearm? All clean, my needles and carts are battered (very noisy) but signal strength wise they perform perfectly with records. What mixer do you have? I'm using a really shitty old Ecler thing i picked up for free, again works perfectly with records/line inputs though. The timecode doesn't touch the mixer anyway does it? In your soundcard control panel is each channel set to phono? Yeah. Could the ADCs be fucked?
Annalisa Shogren 17.04.2013	Originally Posted by Maxted Hey guys wondering if anybody can help, i've had a google and searched about but i believe it's better to just ask as i read mixed stuff. I've just upgraded to scratch pro 2. I'm using two 1210's, Audio 8. When i attempt to calibrate the decks 9/10 times it says "Unknown Medium - Low Input", some times it works but usually loses track again pretty quickly. Now i'm using pretty shitty carts/stylus (battered stanton 500's), and my tables aren't perfectly even, but records sound fine. No problems with grounding, as records are fine (Grounded to A8 anyway). Tracking weights on 3.5 and 3.3 (I have mismatched headshells), antiskate 3. Is the input to the adc just THAT low? I've played on even more ghetto setups than mine using serato and never had this problem. If it's the carts, not a massive deal as i'm getting some m44's anyway once i got the cash. (For a stop-gap, would these work http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/350397205578 ?) And one last question, i bought the A8 second hand on ebay - the "Input Mode" button doesn't have the same click (or appear to actually do anything, leds don't change) as the Source and Mic/Line, but is this just because scratch 2 doesn't allow input switching outside of preferences? If not i've been jipped a bit. Cheers Does the unknown medium thing occur on both decks? Have you tried grounding the tables to the mixer and not the A8? Have you checked the contacts on the needles/inside the tonearm? If not and they look a bit grubby then you should clean them. The input mode button doesn't work unless changed in preferences, I can't remember where as I never use it. But there is a way for the button to work. What mixer do you have? Those needles would be ok as a temporary options, but they're diamond shapes so they're going to cut through your vinyl pretty quick, I'd just wait and save the money for the Shures if I were you.
Melinda Shick 17.04.2013	Hey guys wondering if anybody can help, i've had a google and searched about but i believe it's better to just ask as i read mixed stuff. I've just upgraded to scratch pro 2. I'm using two 1210's, Audio 8. When i attempt to calibrate the decks 9/10 times it says "Unknown Medium - Low Input", some times it works but usually loses track again pretty quickly. Now i'm using pretty shitty carts/stylus (battered stanton 500's), and my tables aren't perfectly even, but records sound fine. No problems with grounding, as records are fine (Grounded to A8 anyway). Tracking weights on 3.5 and 3.3 (I have mismatched headshells), antiskate 3. Is the input to the adc just THAT low? I've played on even more ghetto setups than mine using serato and never had this problem. If it's the carts, not a massive deal as i'm getting some m44's anyway once i got the cash. (For a stop-gap, would these work http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/350397205578 ?) And one last question, i bought the A8 second hand on ebay - the "Input Mode" button doesn't have the same click (or appear to actually do anything, leds don't change) as the Source and Mic/Line, but is this just because scratch 2 doesn't allow input switching outside of preferences? If not i've been jipped a bit. Cheers
Melinda Shick 17.04.2013	the couple different sets I used leaked timcode signal into the Line input coming into the mixer Has to be that, but losing it in the phono through (and that also explains when playing vinyl through why an input was detected). Good call! I don't like the multicores much anyway, rather short and bulky, i'd rather tape up a bunch of standard rca's. Edit: Thinking about it, the odds of both cables having the same problem is a bit long. But at least i know it's not the A8 hardware.
Melinda Shick 17.04.2013	Okay..... Everything was working, then after trying with a record (switching to phono on mixer) and going back to timecode (even with recalibration) the input signal went too low and started skipping. Pulled out the phono-throughs, and the scopes shot back up. So some interfere from the mixer, somehow it is feeding back, as soon as i plug either channel in, that channels timecode drops to low input.
Addie Engbrecht 17.04.2013	bad cables possibly...or maybe something swapped. BTW, I personally am not a fan of the multicores, the couple different sets I used leaked timcode signal into the Line input coming into the mixer. Could be just a bad couple pairs I ran into, but I don't even believe they come with any of the new scratch packages anymore
Melinda Shick 17.04.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 The mixer should not have any effect on how turntables work with Traktor, since it's later on in the chain (after Traktor's outputs). If you're just testing the Audio 8 the mixer should not even be connected tbh. Put turntables directly into the Audio 8, and use Internal Mixing Mode with headphones/speakers connected directly to the A8. Went through setup video, everything was identical (bar the XLR connections on multicores). So i removed everything from the mixer, timecode signals are now working (left is a bit weaker, but that needle is worse i'm sure). Plugged back in line inputs to mixer, plugged back in the phono outs. EVERYTHING WORKING! Very bizzare... Yea I get what your believeing, you believe your line inputs on the mixer might be bad. Still wouldnt affect why you are getting a weak timecode signal. For your reference, the input mode button doesnt work the way you believe....basically all I'm saying is that it's fine. Just make sure the audio 8 is set to "timecode vinyl" on channels A/B (or 1,2,3,4), if they are please make sure you are using the MK2 Vinyl, because depending on when you bought Scratch pro, the original timecode vinyls (ones that used to come w/ the audio 8 in the scratch package) will not work. I was actually believeing the phono amps on the A8 were fucked, or some kind of interference from my mix, which it appears to have been (oddly gone after unplugging-repluggin :/). I'm using MK1 timecode, but everything is working fine now!
Addie Engbrecht 17.04.2013	Originally Posted by Maxted Line inputs sound fine. Something quite weird happens, when i flick to phono on the mixer and just play the vinyl through, traktors deck inputs show a nice hot signal, when i switch back to line on the mixer, so that it's actually traktors output, the signal drops. Also, it sounds like the highs are being cut a bit, or quality degraded, hard to tell because it's so quiet and when gained to fuck it's just horrible. Defo a hardware issue, hoping it's the mixer. Yea I get what your believeing, you believe your line inputs on the mixer might be bad. Still wouldnt affect why you are getting a weak timecode signal. For your reference, the input mode button doesnt work the way you believe....basically all I'm saying is that it's fine. Just make sure the audio 8 is set to "timecode vinyl" on channels A/B (or 1,2,3,4), if they are please make sure you are using the MK2 Vinyl, because depending on when you bought Scratch pro, the original timecode vinyls (ones that used to come w/ the audio 8 in the scratch package) will not work.
Alphonso Deitchman 17.04.2013	The mixer should not have any effect on how turntables work with Traktor, since it's later on in the chain (after Traktor's outputs). If you're just testing the Audio 8 the mixer should not even be connected tbh. Put turntables directly into the Audio 8, and use Internal Mixing Mode with headphones/speakers connected directly to the A8.
Melinda Shick 17.04.2013	Line inputs sound fine. Something quite weird happens, when i flick to phono on the mixer and just play the vinyl through, traktors deck inputs show a nice hot signal, when i switch back to line on the mixer, so that it's actually traktors output, the signal drops. Also, it sounds like the highs are being cut a bit, or quality degraded, hard to tell because it's so quiet and when gained to fuck it's just horrible. Defo a hardware issue, hoping it's the mixer.
Alphonso Deitchman 17.04.2013	I'm guessing you've tried setting the input mode already? http://www.native-instruments.com/kn...ftware+Lock%29
Annalisa Shogren 17.04.2013	Just to clarify, you have got the audio 8 set up properly yeah? Run through that to make sure.
Melinda Shick 17.04.2013	Originally Posted by OmniRoss Is it possible to try the mixer with a different sound card? I could, i could run my monitors straight off the A8, but it's a pain. I can always try it on a friends setup, only got delivered 2 days ago so i could open ebay dispute no problem. Which inputs are you using on the Audio 8? Only 2 inputs have phono preamps on. 1/2 & 3/4. I'll try something through line now.
Annalisa Shogren 17.04.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 Which inputs are you using on the Audio 8? Only 2 inputs have phono preamps on. Good point.
Alphonso Deitchman 17.04.2013	Which inputs are you using on the Audio 8? Only 2 inputs have phono preamps on. Does line level stuff sound ok through the A8? (CDs, MP3 players etc)
Annalisa Shogren 17.04.2013	Originally Posted by Maxted Extremely weak input, had to have full gain on mixer and my studio soundcard (which feeds my monitors) to even hear it. Yeah, intermittently with neither one being worse, the signal when it does get one barely lasts 10 seconds. Yup, they were grounded to the mixer when i first tried it, thought A8 might change but hasn't. All clean, my needles and carts are battered (very noisy) but signal strength wise they perform perfectly with records. I'm using a really shitty old Ecler thing i picked up for free, again works perfectly with records/line inputs though. The timecode doesn't touch the mixer anyway does it? Yeah. Could the ADCs be fucked? Is it possible to try the mixer with a different sound card? If I were you, I'd take the A8 to a music shop and try it on one of their mixers to see if you get the same results. If so, get onto Paypal and get a refund.
Melinda Shick 17.04.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 Does normal vinyl music sound good going through Traktor's decks set to Live Input? Extremely weak input, had to have full gain on mixer and my studio soundcard (which feeds my monitors) to even hear it. Does the unknown medium thing occur on both decks? Yeah, intermittently with neither one being worse, the signal when it does get one barely lasts 10 seconds. Have you tried grounding the tables to the mixer and not the A8? Yup, they were grounded to the mixer when i first tried it, thought A8 might change but hasn't. Have you checked the contacts on the needles/inside the tonearm? All clean, my needles and carts are battered (very noisy) but signal strength wise they perform perfectly with records. What mixer do you have? I'm using a really shitty old Ecler thing i picked up for free, again works perfectly with records/line inputs though. The timecode doesn't touch the mixer anyway does it? In your soundcard control panel is each channel set to phono? Yeah. Could the ADCs be fucked?
Inez Marcinik 17.04.2013	In your soundcard control panel is each channel set to phono?
Annalisa Shogren 17.04.2013	Originally Posted by Maxted Hey guys wondering if anybody can help, i've had a google and searched about but i believe it's better to just ask as i read mixed stuff. I've just upgraded to scratch pro 2. I'm using two 1210's, Audio 8. When i attempt to calibrate the decks 9/10 times it says "Unknown Medium - Low Input", some times it works but usually loses track again pretty quickly. Now i'm using pretty shitty carts/stylus (battered stanton 500's), and my tables aren't perfectly even, but records sound fine. No problems with grounding, as records are fine (Grounded to A8 anyway). Tracking weights on 3.5 and 3.3 (I have mismatched headshells), antiskate 3. Is the input to the adc just THAT low? I've played on even more ghetto setups than mine using serato and never had this problem. If it's the carts, not a massive deal as i'm getting some m44's anyway once i got the cash. (For a stop-gap, would these work http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/350397205578 ?) And one last question, i bought the A8 second hand on ebay - the "Input Mode" button doesn't have the same click (or appear to actually do anything, leds don't change) as the Source and Mic/Line, but is this just because scratch 2 doesn't allow input switching outside of preferences? If not i've been jipped a bit. Cheers Does the unknown medium thing occur on both decks? Have you tried grounding the tables to the mixer and not the A8? Have you checked the contacts on the needles/inside the tonearm? If not and they look a bit grubby then you should clean them. The input mode button doesn't work unless changed in preferences, I can't remember where as I never use it. But there is a way for the button to work. What mixer do you have? Those needles would be ok as a temporary options, but they're diamond shapes so they're going to cut through your vinyl pretty quick, I'd just wait and save the money for the Shures if I were you.
Alphonso Deitchman 17.04.2013	Does normal vinyl music sound good going through Traktor's decks set to Live Input?

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