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Key 2 "Open Key"
Posted on: 16.04.2013 by Grace Gatica
Okay so i just started to use Keyfinder and because it doesn't have a setting to save in Open Key i decided to use the custom key codes to assign them to their open key. However, after scanning some songs i have found that Keyfinder detects most tracks differently to that of my previous software Beatunes. Would like to know if this is because of a shitty key analysis by Beatunes or if i have the wrong Key codes.
Screen Shot 2013-04-16 at 4.30.06 PM.png

Edit: Don't know why the image is so small, but you can click it to enlarge it
Grace Gatica
19.04.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
bm = Flat Minor
b = Flat
# = sharp
No suffix (i.e - no b or m or bm or #) = Major

Also - A# = Bb, B# = Cb, C# = Db, D# = Eb, E# = Fb, F#= Gb.



It's the difference in the name of a key, and the name of a note IN a key.

Confusing, ain't it!
haha yes it is, hence why i needed help to check, used to play guitar and couldn't get my head completely around keys. Since as though you have a fair knowledge of these keys, do my custom key codes correlate to the Beatunes open key wheel?
Grace Gatica
19.04.2013
Originally Posted by DISaS73R


That's taken from beatunes' site and I don't see any m's or d's?
And I'm not perfectly confident with my music theory, but it looks the same as the camelot system to me.
been using that wheel just wanted someone to check everything was coded correctly, bit of a nooby question but just wanted someone to double check.
Grace Gatica
19.04.2013
Originally Posted by Student
And you need the A's and B's
been using Dur and minor instead of the A and B. Traktor uses it also.
Grace Gatica
19.04.2013
Originally Posted by Student
This is what it should look like. You can see this in the picture posted by Elmgroove as well.



This helps but i don't believe that is open key format? unless there a two types of open key? Open Key v1 by traktor and beatunes or v2 mixed in key?
Grace Gatica
17.04.2013
Originally Posted by elmgroove
Are you looking for something like this?

http://www.harmonic-mixing.com/Image...onicMixing.jpg
Thanks for the reply but i have already looked at that and open key is '4m' not '4a' for example. Unless i am wrong but
Grace Gatica
16.04.2013
Okay so i just started to use Keyfinder and because it doesn't have a setting to save in Open Key i decided to use the custom key codes to assign them to their open key. However, after scanning some songs i have found that Keyfinder detects most tracks differently to that of my previous software Beatunes. Would like to know if this is because of a shitty key analysis by Beatunes or if i have the wrong Key codes.
Screen Shot 2013-04-16 at 4.30.06 PM.png

Edit: Don't know why the image is so small, but you can click it to enlarge it
Olin Easley
19.04.2013


B is major, A is minor.
Grace Gatica
19.04.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
bm = Flat Minor
b = Flat
# = sharp
No suffix (i.e - no b or m or bm or #) = Major

Also - A# = Bb, B# = Cb, C# = Db, D# = Eb, E# = Fb, F#= Gb.



It's the difference in the name of a key, and the name of a note IN a key.

Confusing, ain't it!
haha yes it is, hence why i needed help to check, used to play guitar and couldn't get my head completely around keys. Since as though you have a fair knowledge of these keys, do my custom key codes correlate to the Beatunes open key wheel?
Brunilda Kora
19.04.2013
bm = Flat Minor
b = Flat
# = sharp
No suffix (i.e - no b or m or bm or #) = Major

Also - A# = Bb, B# = Cb, C# = Db, D# = Eb, E# = Fb, F#= Gb.

What is The Difference between A# and Bb?
Aren't these two notes the same? Because i will seem them both used, however wouldn't A# be the proper term, does B flat really exist? I am thoroughly confused.

Best Answer
They are both the exact same note, and both names are equally valid. The only difference is in context.
In flat keys (F, Bb, Eb, Ab, Db, Gb) you use Bb for consistency, while in sharp keys (B, F#, G#) you use A#. This is a general, and there are exceptions, such a classical pieces that use chromatic scales.
It's the difference in the name of a key, and the name of a note IN a key.

Confusing, ain't it!
Grace Gatica
19.04.2013
Originally Posted by DISaS73R


That's taken from beatunes' site and I don't see any m's or d's?
And I'm not perfectly confident with my music theory, but it looks the same as the camelot system to me.
been using that wheel just wanted someone to check everything was coded correctly, bit of a nooby question but just wanted someone to double check.
Grace Gatica
19.04.2013
Originally Posted by Student
And you need the A's and B's
been using Dur and minor instead of the A and B. Traktor uses it also.
Trula Willadsen
19.04.2013
And you need the A's and B's
Olin Easley
19.04.2013


That's taken from beatunes' site and I don't see any m's or d's?
And I'm not perfectly confident with my music theory, but it looks the same as the camelot system to me.
Grace Gatica
19.04.2013
Originally Posted by Student
This is what it should look like. You can see this in the picture posted by Elmgroove as well.



This helps but i don't believe that is open key format? unless there a two types of open key? Open Key v1 by traktor and beatunes or v2 mixed in key?
Trula Willadsen
19.04.2013
This is what it should look like. You can see this in the picture posted by Elmgroove as well.



Grace Gatica
19.04.2013
hate to keep bumping but really need someone to confirm this for me as am about to re-analyze entire collection with keyfinder instead of Beatunes. Thanks
Grace Gatica
17.04.2013
Originally Posted by elmgroove
Are you looking for something like this?

http://www.harmonic-mixing.com/Image...onicMixing.jpg
Thanks for the reply but i have already looked at that and open key is '4m' not '4a' for example. Unless i am wrong but
Christiana Ercolani
17.04.2013
Are you looking for something like this?

http://www.harmonic-mixing.com/Image...onicMixing.jpg
Grace Gatica
17.04.2013
Really? no one can confirm for me this is correct?
Grace Gatica
17.04.2013
Bump.

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