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Suggestions for recording sets from mixer. Posted on: 01.06.2013 by Leota Dolney So I'm looking for something to record my sets from my mixer. I've used Traktor to record my sets when mixing internally, but want to look for something that I can use when not using laptop/controler/Traktor and using mixer/CDJs. The Reloop Tape looks interesting, but I wish it recorded to WAV and not just MP3. My mixer has REC Out, so I'd like to use that and not rely on something that needed a microphone. Any suggestions would be welcome.
Leota Dolney 02.06.2013	Originally Posted by Ross EDIT: Yes, go for the Tascam if it's cheaper and does practically the same thing. That's what I was believeing...i'll pay for quality so I don't have to buy twice....but I want to make sure that if I am paying more, that I am actually getting something good for me and my needs. So right now, it looks like the Tascam will be it.
Annalisa Shogren 02.06.2013	Originally Posted by The Mighty FV Jesus christ, try reading the OP to begin with. Then form a reply in your mind. Double check before your brain tricks you into replying. Sorry darling, what part of my reply wasn't appropriate in reply to the OP? It's a small, handy recorder of good quality that will do the job. People suggesting mini discs just aren't practical in this day and age, and needlessly complicate things. Yes, the zoom does have mic recording features, but that leaves your options open if you ever wanted to record crowd noise to add to your mix. EDIT: Yes, go for the Tascam if it's cheaper and does practically the same thing.
Leota Dolney 02.06.2013	Originally Posted by Patch Of course - sorry mate, don't know where my mind was! It's the weekend...your mind is hopefully right where it should be: recovering from last evening :-)
Leota Dolney 02.06.2013	Originally Posted by Patch Can't you just record the set IN Traktor? Yes, but you have to mix internally. I do this when I am using my controller and Traktor. But if I want to use CDJs+mixer, I cant do that. If you are using Traktor but mixing externally (e.g., timecode vinyl etc.), then you need to route your mixer output back into Traktor, and set it to record externally. If you don't, you will only get the internal Traktor audio and none of the EQs or FX processed externally by mixer and/or FX unit.
Joesph Kasian 02.06.2013	Originally Posted by Ross Jesus christ, what a ball ache people make these things. Done. http://www.zoom.co.jp/products/h2n/ Jesus christ, try reading the OP to begin with. Then form a reply in your mind. Double check before your brain tricks you into replying.
Doreen Schurle 02.06.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 It also comes with a old modem cable for "telephone recording" but there doesn't seem to be a socket for that on the device. I've checked a few of the other similar listings, and it appears that the 3.5mm jack cable connects to a telephone wire junction box which ISN'T pictured in that listing. I need to do some more research on this one mebelieves. EDIT: Yep, Telephone and Microphone impedence are both 600ohms, so I've got no clue whatsoever now. It specifically says it supports recording from "Line-In" sources, but you can never be too careful.
Doreen Schurle 02.06.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 I'm still not seeing a Line In socket though, there's Headphone and Microphone inputs but no Line visible. I know assumption typically "makes an ass out of u and me", but I'm assuming that the Mic socket is either a) switchable between line/mic level, b) auto-sensing, like some laptops/onboard sound these days or c) uses a TRRS socket with the "shallowest" contact for the mic input on the bundled one. It just wouldn't make sense them shipping it with a 3.5->3.5 cable - and advertising it as being able to accept a line input - if it didn't. Plus, if it arrived and it DIDN'T accept line in, PayPal would refund you instantly anyway, so it's pretty low-risk. In fact, I'm going to order one now to answer this definitively for you guys
Alphonso Deitchman 02.06.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign From the eBay listing: Support MP3/WAV recording formats Record audio from LINE-IN Also ships with a stereo 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable for that very purpose. The other link confirms the sampling rate to be 48Khz The Zooms are FANTASTIC, but they're also over a hundred quid I'm still not seeing a Line In socket though, there's Headphone and Microphone inputs but no Line visible.
Annalisa Shogren 02.06.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign From the eBay listing: Support MP3/WAV recording formats Record audio from LINE-IN Also ships with a stereo 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable for that very purpose. The other link confirms the sampling rate to be 48Khz The Zooms are FANTASTIC, but they're also over a hundred quid Yeah, but you buy once and you won't need to buy again. Just make the investment. It's like buying Technics.
Doreen Schurle 02.06.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 I'm not seeing a Line input on those super cheap recorders? From the eBay listing: Support MP3/WAV recording formats Record audio from LINE-IN Also ships with a stereo 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable for that very purpose. The other link confirms the sampling rate to be 48Khz The Zooms are FANTASTIC, but they're also over a hundred quid
Leota Dolney 02.06.2013	Originally Posted by Ross EDIT: Yes, go for the Tascam if it's cheaper and does practically the same thing. That's what I was believeing...i'll pay for quality so I don't have to buy twice....but I want to make sure that if I am paying more, that I am actually getting something good for me and my needs. So right now, it looks like the Tascam will be it.
Annalisa Shogren 02.06.2013	Originally Posted by The Mighty FV Jesus christ, try reading the OP to begin with. Then form a reply in your mind. Double check before your brain tricks you into replying. Sorry darling, what part of my reply wasn't appropriate in reply to the OP? It's a small, handy recorder of good quality that will do the job. People suggesting mini discs just aren't practical in this day and age, and needlessly complicate things. Yes, the zoom does have mic recording features, but that leaves your options open if you ever wanted to record crowd noise to add to your mix. EDIT: Yes, go for the Tascam if it's cheaper and does practically the same thing.
Leota Dolney 02.06.2013	Originally Posted by Patch Of course - sorry mate, don't know where my mind was! It's the weekend...your mind is hopefully right where it should be: recovering from last evening :-)
Brunilda Kora 02.06.2013	Of course - sorry mate, don't know where my mind was!
Leota Dolney 02.06.2013	Originally Posted by Patch Can't you just record the set IN Traktor? Yes, but you have to mix internally. I do this when I am using my controller and Traktor. But if I want to use CDJs+mixer, I cant do that. If you are using Traktor but mixing externally (e.g., timecode vinyl etc.), then you need to route your mixer output back into Traktor, and set it to record externally. If you don't, you will only get the internal Traktor audio and none of the EQs or FX processed externally by mixer and/or FX unit.
Brunilda Kora 02.06.2013	Can't you just record the set IN Traktor?
Amee Gralewski 02.06.2013	I'm in a similar situation. Hope it doesn't bother if I ask here. Can you plug de Record Output from the Mixer into de Input form de Audio Interface and record it in Trakor, or in any other Software?
Leota Dolney 02.06.2013	@Ross, I'm not sure what you are referring to when you say "ball ache"...I have simply asked for suggestions and have asked some questions to those that have responded. Perhaps it's just an expression that sounds more rude than you intended. Anyway, I did look at the H2N, but while it does have line in recording...it seems to have way more features for fancy mic recording...while I don't mind investing in good gear, I don't want to pay for a bunch of features I won't use...or at least don't want to pay that much...the Tascam DR40 can do similar things but is a bit cheaper and has lots of great reviews. @mdcdesign, thanks for the research, I might have almost ordered that one as well given the low price. As it is, I would like to stay away from device options that require separate "media" (e.g., cassettes, CDs, DAT tapes etc.) as recording to SD card or USB flash drive is just so much more convenient for me. I wish there were more reviews of the Reloop tape so I could have that for comparison, it is almost the same price as the Tascam, but with no WAV Recording option (maybe this is not a big deal); it does have an audio thru...but I don't really need that. At the moment I'm leaning toward the Tascam, but will keep looking for other options. If anyone has other suggestions, specific models I should look at, I'm still very much open to them.
Joesph Kasian 02.06.2013	Originally Posted by Ross Jesus christ, what a ball ache people make these things. Done. http://www.zoom.co.jp/products/h2n/ Jesus christ, try reading the OP to begin with. Then form a reply in your mind. Double check before your brain tricks you into replying.
Doreen Schurle 02.06.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 It also comes with a old modem cable for "telephone recording" but there doesn't seem to be a socket for that on the device. I've checked a few of the other similar listings, and it appears that the 3.5mm jack cable connects to a telephone wire junction box which ISN'T pictured in that listing. I need to do some more research on this one mebelieves. EDIT: Yep, Telephone and Microphone impedence are both 600ohms, so I've got no clue whatsoever now. It specifically says it supports recording from "Line-In" sources, but you can never be too careful.
Alphonso Deitchman 02.06.2013	It also comes with a old modem cable for "telephone recording" but there doesn't seem to be a socket for that on the device.
Doreen Schurle 02.06.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 I'm still not seeing a Line In socket though, there's Headphone and Microphone inputs but no Line visible. I know assumption typically "makes an ass out of u and me", but I'm assuming that the Mic socket is either a) switchable between line/mic level, b) auto-sensing, like some laptops/onboard sound these days or c) uses a TRRS socket with the "shallowest" contact for the mic input on the bundled one. It just wouldn't make sense them shipping it with a 3.5->3.5 cable - and advertising it as being able to accept a line input - if it didn't. Plus, if it arrived and it DIDN'T accept line in, PayPal would refund you instantly anyway, so it's pretty low-risk. In fact, I'm going to order one now to answer this definitively for you guys
Alphonso Deitchman 02.06.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign From the eBay listing: Support MP3/WAV recording formats Record audio from LINE-IN Also ships with a stereo 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable for that very purpose. The other link confirms the sampling rate to be 48Khz The Zooms are FANTASTIC, but they're also over a hundred quid I'm still not seeing a Line In socket though, there's Headphone and Microphone inputs but no Line visible.
Annalisa Shogren 02.06.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign From the eBay listing: Support MP3/WAV recording formats Record audio from LINE-IN Also ships with a stereo 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable for that very purpose. The other link confirms the sampling rate to be 48Khz The Zooms are FANTASTIC, but they're also over a hundred quid Yeah, but you buy once and you won't need to buy again. Just make the investment. It's like buying Technics.
Doreen Schurle 02.06.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 I'm not seeing a Line input on those super cheap recorders? From the eBay listing: Support MP3/WAV recording formats Record audio from LINE-IN Also ships with a stereo 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable for that very purpose. The other link confirms the sampling rate to be 48Khz The Zooms are FANTASTIC, but they're also over a hundred quid
Alphonso Deitchman 02.06.2013	I'm not seeing a Line input on those super cheap recorders?
Annalisa Shogren 02.06.2013	Jesus christ, what a ball ache people make these things. Done. http://www.zoom.co.jp/products/h2n/
Doreen Schurle 02.06.2013	Originally Posted by DirtyNerd Ok.... so I've been looking at a Tascam DR-40. It has a pair of XLR/TRS combo inputs in addition to the 2 mics, so I could send audio right from mixer REC Out to the device...and have the option of also recording ambient audio at the same time on a separate track. It records in MP3 or WAV...which I like....but its like $150. Any other options out there that are cheaper but still can accept input from mixer and not rely on Mics? Well anything with a Line Input really... Old DAT recorders, digital Dictaphones, personal voice recorders, etc etc. The two deciding factors are always going to be cost and quality though, and it's usually going to be a trade off between the two. EDIT: An old Sony TCD-D7 will give you 120 minutes of raw, uncompressed PCM (48/44Khz) audio recorded to a single tape. Can sometimes pick them up for under
Leota Dolney 02.06.2013	Ok.... so I've been looking at a Tascam DR-40. It has a pair of XLR/TRS combo inputs in addition to the 2 mics, so I could send audio right from mixer REC Out to the device...and have the option of also recording ambient audio at the same time on a separate track. It records in MP3 or WAV...which I like....but its like $150. Any other options out there that are cheaper but still can accept input from mixer and not rely on Mics?
Doreen Schurle 02.06.2013	Max on a minidisc is 80 minutes, which is okay if you're just doing hour sets. If you're doing all-evening jobbies though, you're better off just taking your laptop tbh. Even the cheapo digital recorders are still like
Leota Dolney 02.06.2013	Originally Posted by happydan You can pick up a portable stereo digital recorder for pretty cheap. I'd go for that over the Reloop. Any particular recorder you can suggest?
Evalyn Voges 02.06.2013	You can pick up a portable stereo digital recorder for pretty cheap. I'd go for that over the Reloop.
Leota Dolney 02.06.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign An interesting option - and a RIDICULOUSLY cheap one - is Minidisc. You can pick up used Minidisc players on eBay for peanuts; just make sure you get one that supports ATRAC3.5 at minimum. Hmmmm...cheap is good. What is the max recording time you can do with those?
Doreen Schurle 02.06.2013	An interesting option - and a RIDICULOUSLY cheap one - is Minidisc. You can pick up used Minidisc players on eBay for peanuts; just make sure you get one that supports ATRAC3.5 at minimum.

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