Question re: Traktor, Smart Playlists and Remix Sets
Question re: Traktor, Smart Playlists and Remix Sets Posted on: 31.05.2013 by Brunilda Kora Deeeeep breath:I'm trying to get my head around how the Traktor Collection works, and how iTunes Playlists are used in Traktor. I understand that you need to re-import the iTunes Playlists into Traktor every time you update your iTunes library. Not a problem. That means I just have to update iTunes AND THEN Traktors collection once a month. Here's when I get confused. - You can save remix sets (for me it will only be 4 loops or samples per set, 'cos I won't be using an F1) to the Traktor Collection ONLY, right? So, when I save some remix sets to the Traktor Version of the iTunes Smart Playlist, can I still update the Traktor Collection (Smart) Playlists every month (when I add new tracks to iTunes), or will the Traktor Playlist be over written by the iTunes playlist, and the Traktor playlist DOESN'T include remix sets??? Damn - I don't believe I can even follow that train of thought... Basically - how can I keep my Traktor Playlists sync'd to my iTunes SMART Playlists, while keeping my newly added Remix Sets in the Traktor Playlist??? For info - my SMART iTunes Playlists will be sorted by KEY. So I'd like to be saving the Remix Sets to the Playlist that matches the KEY of the track the Remix Set is made from... | |
| Cassie Sangermano 05.06.2013 | Nice!! I'm actually currently moving away from using Traktor, purchased 2 Denon SC2900's at the beginning of the year, and now that the Engine software is stable enough for live use i'll probably use that most of the time. Traktor will still be loaded in the background though, mainly for use of the cruise feature at the beginnings of evenings/buffet time etc. Times when I don't need to actively pick and mix tunes! Seriously tempted to pick up a scratch certified mixer at some point though to replace my MC6000... will probably be a Denon X1600. I have a set of TT's sat around at home doing nothing that I would love to put to use! |
| Brunilda Kora 05.06.2013 | Okay - I sure hope so! But I've known software to be wrong before... I'm pretty sure I'll be taking the plunge in the next couple of weeks - and buying TSP2 and a DJM850. |
| Cassie Sangermano 05.06.2013 | Exactly. If it doesn't work like that then Traktor is wrong!!! |
| Brunilda Kora 05.06.2013 | It really shouldn't REMOVE anything. After all, you're ADDING tracks to the Traktor Playlist, not rebuilding it from scratch, right? And the "remove duplicates" shouldn't touch Remix Sets - 'cos there should only be a single copy of any remix set anyway... |
| Cassie Sangermano 05.06.2013 | I personally don't use remix sets, so I can't confirm for certain, but I did add a few random tracks to the playlist that were not in the iTunes playlist, and they stayed in there, so I see no reason why remix sets should disappear if using the method above. |
| Brunilda Kora 05.06.2013 | Hey Rob - did you confirm that Remix Sets that have been saved to Traktors Playlists are left unaffected by re-importing iTunes Smart Playlists? Just to be 100% certain... |
| Cassie Sangermano 05.06.2013 | No problem!!! Always glad to help!! |
| Brunilda Kora 04.06.2013 | BO! Looks like there's a nice little process here that works brilliantly. Thanks for your help, chaps. Much appreciated! |
| Cassie Sangermano 04.06.2013 | Give me 2 mins, I'll fire up my laptop and try it out. Edit: Confirmed. Tracks get duplicated, but a right click on playlist/remove duplicates sorts the issue. |
| Brunilda Kora 04.06.2013 | Haven't tried it yet - but "delete dupilcates" sounds like it will sort out the problem immediately after it has happened! Can someone that actually *HAS* Traktor try it out??? |
| Cassie Sangermano 04.06.2013 | Progress as in "It works!!"?? |
| Brunilda Kora 04.06.2013 | Progress! |
| Cassie Sangermano 04.06.2013 | I'm sure it won't delete anything from it, if you drag the actual files from the iTunes playlist into the Traktor playlist (I have not tested this, but I don't see why it would work any other way). It may duplicate them, but then all you have to do is right click on the playlist and click remove duplicates. |
| Brunilda Kora 04.06.2013 |
That will only add tracks to it that are not already in the playlist, thereby keeping your remix sets in the playlist.
'Cos that woul be GOOOOD!
Originally Posted by proben
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| Cassie Sangermano 04.06.2013 | As long as you don't remove any tracks from the smart playlist in iTunes, you should just be able to open up the playlist in the iTunes tab, select all tracks and drag and drop them into the static playlist in Traktor. That will only add tracks to it that are not already in the playlist, thereby keeping your remix sets in the playlist. |
| Danae Dumler 03.06.2013 | oh yeah and PS vinyl is awesome, go for it ;-P |
| Danae Dumler 03.06.2013 | iTunes playlist and Traktor playlists deal with two different databases - the "traktor collection" (which you should be playing from) is Traktor's database, which you have to add songs to in order to work with them. The iTunes "smart" playlist is updated on the fly, but Traktor has no way of updating its own playlists when that happens. Smart playlists are useful in Traktor but you have to keep in mind that the songs are not yet in the Traktor collection until you put them there. You can still use them from the itunes playlist but you will miss some features like seeing the key or being able to change the information. So the short answer to your question is no. |
| Brunilda Kora 03.06.2013 | Last bump. Before I go back to vinyl only... |
| Brunilda Kora 02.06.2013 | I know, lol. |
| Gaynell Rydberg 02.06.2013 | Oohhhh. I see what you're saying. You want to use iTunes to make Smart Playlists but you'd like Traktor to tell you if there are remix sets already made for tracks? Can't help you there lol. |
| Brunilda Kora 03.06.2013 | It does update, if you browse in the iTunes Node. But if you import a Smart Playlist into Traktor, the TRAKTOR PLAYLIST does not update when the iTunes Node does... Re: Remix Sets - obviously, the Remix Set will be in the same key as the original track that it was created from. So I'd like it to show up in the same playlists as the original track. That way, when I'm browsing for tracks, I can see which ones have an associated Remix Set, 'cos it will be right there next to the original track. So the playlist would look like this: 02A - 090 - RJD2 and Cannibal Ox - The F Word 02A - 090 - The Pharcyde - Ya Mama 02A - 091 - Eazy-E - Eazy Duz It 02A - 091 - Eazy-E - Eazy Duz It (Patch's Remix Set) 02A - 092 - A Tribe Called Quest - We've Got The Jazz 02A - 093 - KRS-One - MC's Act Like They Don`t Know I don't know if it's gonna be possible - because the Remix Set can only be saved in the Traktor Collection, and the Smart Playlist is created by iTunes. The current way to do it is long-winded and convoluted, but if I have to do it by copying tracks to individual folders in Traktor when I update my iTunes Smart Playlists then that's what I'll have to do. |
| Gaynell Rydberg 02.06.2013 | The part you're confusing me is remix sets. I don't see what that has to do with smart playlists. I just tested smart playlists with Traktor, and the playlist (in Traktor) is changing every time the playlist in iTunes is modified. |
| Brunilda Kora 02.06.2013 | Yes. But you can import them into Traktor as a static (ie - representative of the Smart Playlist at the time it was imported) playlist. I'd hoped there was a way to keep my iTunes SMART Playlists (which will ONLY contain .mp3 files of whole tracks, and is updated weekly/monthly) sync'd with my Traktor Collection (which, as well as the whole tracks, will ALSO include Traktor generated Remix Sets, Loops, etc...). The reason for this is that I want to keep the original track, and the related Remix Set in the same playlist, which would be sorted by KEY. I'm trying to avoid having a separate folder for Remix Sets... But at the moment, I can't see a sensible way of doing it... |
| Gaynell Rydberg 02.06.2013 | I'm so confused. Aren't smart playlists just playlists generated by iTunes using criteria chosen by you? |
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