Traktor users......do you use the loop recorder?
Traktor users......do you use the loop recorder? Posted on: 03.06.2013 by Addie Engbrecht Lets be honest, I forgot the thing even existed. I prob come from the old school, and have never found a way to work it into my flow, and kinda gave up. Just curious how usefull this somewhat new feature has been for others.... | |
| Hipolito Scionti 07.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by tekki
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| Caryn Liberato 06.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Stewe
The meat of my comment is raising issues with external mixing scenarios, very few battle mixers have advanced fx loops where the user can fine tune the send & return volumes. So for example with DJM 909, take audio from the hardware fx loop through I/O of the Traktor interface, as soon as you activate the fx loop for your desired channel the audio level drops by around 40%. If traktor had dedicated separate software I/O gain controls (input & output volume) for the loop recorder rather than the seemingly pointless wet&dry knob, the loop recorder would actually become properly useable with virtually any external mixing scenario. Traktors "send" fx option works via the same audio loop so if NI was to add this teeny tiny little feature they would actually be opening up proper post fade fx for a whole host of different mixers. |
| Kellie Myrum 05.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Dubba Dutch
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| Kellie Myrum 05.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Patch
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| Katie Ahmady 05.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Stewe
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| Ninfa Mazariegos 06.06.2013 | I knew I wasn't the only one aggravated by the fx send/return level drop. Anybody know for sure if this is something that could possibly be fixed through an update or if this is hardware related and can not be changed? |
| Hipolito Scionti 07.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by tekki
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| Caryn Liberato 06.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Stewe
The meat of my comment is raising issues with external mixing scenarios, very few battle mixers have advanced fx loops where the user can fine tune the send & return volumes. So for example with DJM 909, take audio from the hardware fx loop through I/O of the Traktor interface, as soon as you activate the fx loop for your desired channel the audio level drops by around 40%. If traktor had dedicated separate software I/O gain controls (input & output volume) for the loop recorder rather than the seemingly pointless wet&dry knob, the loop recorder would actually become properly useable with virtually any external mixing scenario. Traktors "send" fx option works via the same audio loop so if NI was to add this teeny tiny little feature they would actually be opening up proper post fade fx for a whole host of different mixers. |
| Kellie Myrum 05.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Dubba Dutch
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| Caryn Liberato 05.06.2013 | From a turntablism perspective it's an amazing feature for building live scratch compositions but its sadly let down by the lack of separate I/O gain controls. I've tested virtually every major battle mixer with an fx loop and unless the mixer has separate hardware controls for send & return the loop recorder is unusable. Internal mode is problem free in regards to audio levels but it doesn't sample post fade. It just needs a couple of very small tweaks and it would become a very powerful tool, just adding post fade sampling would be immense. For a while I thought that the fabled Maschine integration would take on traktor sampling duties. |
| Random X 05.06.2013 | Have never used it, to be honest.... |
| Kellie Myrum 05.06.2013 | |
| Brunilda Kora 05.06.2013 | Sure will! |
| Kellie Myrum 05.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Patch
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| Katie Ahmady 05.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Stewe
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| Brunilda Kora 05.06.2013 | I've got some serious mapping coming my way soon - once I get hold of a Zomo MC-1000, DJM850, TSP2 and my Dicers! I'll be making a combined midi and keyboard mapping. I've been reading the Traktor manual for a while trying to get a broad understanding of mapping - but everything is yet to *click* in my mind yet... Expect PM's, Stewe! |
| Kellie Myrum 05.06.2013 | Absolutely. Just add new generic keyboard device or edit your current one. |
| Brunilda Kora 05.06.2013 | Can those be assigned to keyboard keys??? |
| Kellie Myrum 05.06.2013 | No worries, just don't forget to assign corresponding slot and deck target |
| Brunilda Kora 05.06.2013 | Nice one Stewe. I bet you didn't even have to look that up! |
| Kellie Myrum 05.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Patch
Add In > Remix Deck > Legacy > Slot Capture from Loop Recorder |
| Brunilda Kora 05.06.2013 | I've been reading up on the loop recorder. Sound slke a nice little functions. I'm trying to figure out how you store a loop, either from the loop recorder, or from a loop on a track deck, to the Remix Slots WITHOUT using the mouse. Anyone figured out how to do this? |
| Lillia Datson 05.06.2013 | Not really as i have an F1 and a maschine for making bits and pieces. It would be cool if theres a mapping that changes the knob to key control and the four buttons underneath select the deck, making vastly different BPM transitions a bit easier (vocal loop, turn into really low key, stutter then release slower track, something i was messing around with the other day) |
| Lynda Guerrieri 04.06.2013 | I used to try and set up on the fly remixes for BPM transitions by recording cue point juggling and dragging the loops into my remix decks, but have had a lot of trouble not being able to "count in" and more or less gave up. Any tips? I was believeing about leaving the first pass-through blank and then overdubbing on top of that, but I'm paranoid of losing fidelity. |
| Emelina Chillson 04.06.2013 | Foirgot the damned thing existed. Thanks. hahahaha |
| Fannie Ohayre 04.06.2013 | I mostly use it for tracks where there is a long break. |
| Vaughn Malbon 04.06.2013 | As mentioned, only for creating samples for the remix deck, you can adjust the sample you want to copy by applying effects, cutting frequencys etc, or if its some rhythm loop made up of a couple of decks. |
| Lilliana Perris 04.06.2013 | The thing about the Loop Recorder, is you can overdub. Meaning that you can add to a loop that you just recorded, building a sample out of multiple loops. |
| Charline Dye 04.06.2013 | I use the loop recorder while mixing. Mainly to keep a loop going so I can free up the deck for another track. Occasionally I'll use it to record a loop of the main output so I can load up all the decks with new tracks/remix sets. Also, as said before, to make samples. I like recording new loops/samples from songs using the Fx. The slicer on drums or vocals is my overused Fx for this purpose. Sometimes to get a clean instrumental or vocal loop you have to make a loop, but to take out unwanted elements (like a vocal that starts on the last beat or a crash on the first beat) the loop doesn't start on the right beat. Easily fixed with the loop recorder. You can also record a cue juggle, vocal from mic with Fx, a live instrument, etc. So yeah, mostly for same making samples. Lol. I do wish I could channel Beardyman or DubFx and do a routine using the loop recorder. |
| Arnulfo Morten 04.06.2013 | Never needed to. Traktor lets you set a loop then drag that loop directly to the sample or remix deck or any deck. the only time i've used the sample recorder was for recording the mic.... i mean i guess i would use the sample recorder if I was mixing more than 4 decks at a time because Traktor only supports 4 decks I'm an oldschool virtual dj user the most decks i've set up is 10 and the experience was more like Ableton launching clips rather than holding mixes no sync but all pre beatgrided and all same bpm. |
| Ninfa Mazariegos 03.06.2013 | I believe it's a hardware flaw with the audio 10. So the most useful feature of the loop recorder and post fader fx is flawed when using an analogue mixer. |
| Sonja Roybal 03.06.2013 | I've played on so many different mixers with loop recorders and never seen them used or used them. |
| Ninfa Mazariegos 03.06.2013 | There's a Mad Zach blog/video on using it, but you should be able to map most functions. http://www.djranking s.com/2012/11/1...loop-recorder/ What's cool is that you can record from the headphone out in internal mode or use your fx send/return from your external mixer and your audio 6/10 and do post fader delays and what not. The only downside is that there is about a 3db audio drop at the input of the audio 10 in the fx loop when I hit the channel send button, so not so great for audio quality. That is why I'm wanting to scoop up a Kaoss pad 3 to put between my 707 and audio 10 because it has an adjustable input gain. That way I can boost my send channel and more importantly, I can add fx over loops as I'm recording to create buildups and other interesting loops. Plus I could also save those loops to the kaoss pad and do other things. |
| Lanelle Panarella 03.06.2013 | I only use it to build remix sets... |
| Ninfa Mazariegos 03.06.2013 | Yeah, its most useful to build remix content from existing tracks, or create beat rhythms from one shots. I just got a spectra, and for now I'm just trying to build a workflow and mapping using the free content to get an idea of what I'm doing before I start filling slots with random loops. I'll probably make a separate mapping for my x1 just for the loop recorder so I don't have to touch the mouse pad while I'm working on stuff. Not something I really plan on using live, though. |
| Antonetta Wikel 03.06.2013 | I have an F1 and I never use it. |
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