Deckadance 2 DVS?

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Deckadance 2 DVS?
Posted on: 12.04.2013 by Emelina Chillson
The manual states that it can learn any timecode to be used to control the software. Anyone who has the beta tested this out with Serato or Traktor timecodes yet?
Isa Erik
14.06.2013
Originally Posted by drenkel
Before you start talking about a software you don't use, and hardware you don't have, you should be more informed before you try to become an internet warrior.
My only point was to show that Serato has HID support, you on the other hand....well just seem to be posting wrong information.
You cannot possibly know what software I used, or what hardware I have owned so please refrain from trying to accuse me of being a "internet warrior".

That said, many users are succesfully using their CDJ's in HID mode in both Serato/Traktor, if you believe Cross HID mode is better, by all means: say why. But be specific, elaborate when you give your opinion
Cheers
Isa Erik
14.06.2013
Originally Posted by drenkel
Uh... no. Serato does not have HID with the 900s or 2000s.
ORLY?
(video is 2 years old
Isa Erik
13.06.2013
Originally Posted by drenkel
Zimfella:

Ya I posted about CDJ's, because that's what I prefer. That is with HID, using the Pioneer gear as the sound card. It's direct integration with the new CDJ's, something I couldnt get with Serato.
I'm sorry, but didn't Serato had *stable" HID integration with the CDJ range (850, 900, 2000) long before Traktor 2.6?
And with serato, routing is simpler (audio always comes out of Serato box, no need for aggregate soundcards) so....
Diogo Dj Dragão
14.05.2013
Originally Posted by zimfella
Neomonic, the cmd range come with D2. But I cannot find any upgrade path to D2 dvs. So you got to buy the whole dvs package even if you've bought a cmd controller?
That's a good question. Something you'd have to take up with Image Line, though.
Diogo Dj Dragão
14.05.2013
Originally Posted by hellnegative
You do know that DVS stands for Digital "Vinyl" Sytem right?
But that term applies to any system that converts an analog audio signal containing timecode into position data for computer software. So it's just as appropriate when used to describe the functionality with a CDJ.
Emelina Chillson
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Alphonso Deitchman
14.06.2013		Traktor works great with HID too. No need for an additional DVS box and I get extremely low latencies with the CDJ(3ms) and DJM(2ms) sound cards.
Emelina Chillson
14.06.2013		Serato does have HID support. One of the locals here uses it at every gig and has had no issue. While I am a NI fanboy, I will give serato that little bit of credit. You still need a damned sl box tho.
Isa Erik
14.06.2013
Originally Posted by drenkel
Before you start talking about a software you don't use, and hardware you don't have, you should be more informed before you try to become an internet warrior.
My only point was to show that Serato has HID support, you on the other hand....well just seem to be posting wrong information.
You cannot possibly know what software I used, or what hardware I have owned so please refrain from trying to accuse me of being a "internet warrior".

That said, many users are succesfully using their CDJ's in HID mode in both Serato/Traktor, if you believe Cross HID mode is better, by all means: say why. But be specific, elaborate when you give your opinion
Cheers
Rae Kennan
14.06.2013		The 900 & 2000 are supported, but buggy as hell. Look up the skipping issue that everyone has been complaining about for "years".

And no, they still do NOT support the 2000 Nexus.

Before you start talking about a software you don't use, and hardware you don't have, you should be more informed before you try to become an internet warrior. No-one in their right mind would recommend Serato to be used as a main DVS with the new CDJ's.
Isa Erik
14.06.2013
Originally Posted by drenkel
Uh... no. Serato does not have HID with the 900s or 2000s.
ORLY?
(video is 2 years old
Rae Kennan
13.06.2013		And FYI, Mixvibes that Im referring to, was contracted by Pioneer to write thier Rekordbox software. So they have the advantage of working directly with the manufacturer. No other software even comes close to features list or latency regarding the CDJs. Its not just HID, its a direct integration when cdj are plugged into the computer via usb.
Rae Kennan
13.06.2013		Uh... no. Serato does not have HID with the 900s or 2000s.

And why would you want to run RCA cable through a SL box when you can have a clean 24 bit digital signal direct from the DJM?

I believe your confused about both your softwares, and also the comparison I was making for Zimfella.
Isa Erik
13.06.2013
Originally Posted by drenkel
Zimfella:

Ya I posted about CDJ's, because that's what I prefer. That is with HID, using the Pioneer gear as the sound card. It's direct integration with the new CDJ's, something I couldnt get with Serato.
I'm sorry, but didn't Serato had *stable" HID integration with the CDJ range (850, 900, 2000) long before Traktor 2.6?
And with serato, routing is simpler (audio always comes out of Serato box, no need for aggregate soundcards) so....
Rae Kennan
12.06.2013		Yeah I had serious stability issues with Traktor too, with both Windows 7 & Windows 8. Would have lag, and crashes. This on a high powered i7 machine with 8gig of ram, Traktor on it's own partition.

The concept is great, more functions than any others out there... but reliability is crap in my experience. Nothing worse than crashing during performance.

When I had the opportunity to start playing out with video I checked out Mixvibes and I honestly love it. I wouldnt switch back.
Hanna Ridenbaugh
12.06.2013		Cheers, food for thought, I'm so up NI's ass with my gear I'm starting to get a bit annoyed with about it. The latest 2.6.1 version is crap. Had to increase my latency from 9ms to 18ms and still struggles. I now run 3 versions of traktor and never use the latest one when I play out. I don't want a z1 I want better software stability. Thanks moan over. will check it out
Rae Kennan
12.06.2013		Zimfella:

Ya I posted about CDJ's, because that's what I prefer. That is with HID, using the Pioneer gear as the sound card. It's direct integration with the new CDJ's, something I couldnt get with Serato.

We have another guy here that uses 1200's and after he had a chance to use Cross he switched over immediately. (Was a die hard SSL fan)

Only difference is he has to bring a sound card, and plug everything up like a regular DVS.

Cross doesnt have as much functionality as Traktor, but it's rock solid. Been using it 3 evening s a week for 4 months now and never a single crash. I switched over because the video functionality is superior to Serato.

If your looking to do video, it's the best thing on the market right now IMO.

EDIT: Here's the links if you wanted to check out the specs

Software: http://www.mixvibes.com/content/products/cross-0
Video Plugin: http://www.mixvibes.com/content/products/video-plug
Emelina Chillson
14.05.2013		It depends on your soundcard zimfella.
Diogo Dj Dragão
14.05.2013
Originally Posted by zimfella
Neomonic, the cmd range come with D2. But I cannot find any upgrade path to D2 dvs. So you got to buy the whole dvs package even if you've bought a cmd controller?
That's a good question. Something you'd have to take up with Image Line, though.
Hanna Ridenbaugh
14.05.2013		Neomonic, the cmd range come with D2. But I cannot find any upgrade path to D2 dvs. So you got to buy the whole dvs package even if you've bought a cmd controller?
Hanna Ridenbaugh
14.05.2013		That would be HID integration though, right? Drenkel decribes just using usb connection to control the functions of the software. Not sending any audio to the program. I might be wrong.
Diogo Dj Dragão
14.05.2013
Originally Posted by hellnegative
You do know that DVS stands for Digital "Vinyl" Sytem right?
But that term applies to any system that converts an analog audio signal containing timecode into position data for computer software. So it's just as appropriate when used to describe the functionality with a CDJ.
Emelina Chillson
15.05.2013		You do know that DVS stands for Digital "Vinyl" Sytem right?
Rae Kennan
14.05.2013		U guys really should check out cross 2.0 from mixvibes. Best DVS ive found. We use with cdjs and djm 900. Its direct integration with 0 lag. No need for an external sound card, just plug in the 3 usbs to your laptop and your ready to go.
Margaretta Hebenstreit
14.05.2013		Guess i need to update then, ty
Emelina Chillson
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Margaretta Hebenstreit
13.05.2013		might be a stupid question, but how is dekadance working with timecode if you cannot mix externally? (at least in the beta-version i have)
Emelina Chillson
13.05.2013		The timecode CD (Made within the software then burned) works fine. They do not have a specified timecode vinyl for deckadance tho. If they do, its not listed for sale anywhere and not listed as a supported timecode within the software.
Diogo Dj Dragão
13.05.2013		Just a heads up that Deckadance has it's own timecode. Not only that, but if you're using a CD, there is a utility to generate timecode CDs in the preferences tab in your Deckadance software.
Hanna Ridenbaugh
13.05.2013		I was about to make the jump over to D2 DVS, but after adding it all up, software, soundcard, timecode vinyl. Its not that far from the cost of and audio 6 and traktor scratch. They might struggle to get people to make the jump considering that.
Jetta Drenzek
13.05.2013
Originally Posted by hellnegative
I used the learn function for my serato vinyl,, traktor mk1, and traktor mk2 vinyl. All of which were useless. There was a lot of flutter via the software which made mixing a pain in the arse. Scratch functions were virtually impossible and no absolute mode. I will be getting hold of Torq and Ms. Pinky vinyl to complete the full review.
Cue a huge flame war over NI's proprietary 'locked down' functionality just to suck money out of people and hinder the progression of DJing.

On a more serious note, that sucks about those timecodes not working even with the learn function. I liked how the program allows you to burn a CD with their own timecode though. Great for CDJ users!
Emelina Chillson
13.05.2013		I used the learn function for my serato vinyl,, traktor mk1, and traktor mk2 vinyl. All of which were useless. There was a lot of flutter via the software which made mixing a pain in the arse. Scratch functions were virtually impossible and no absolute mode. I will be getting hold of Torq and Ms. Pinky vinyl to complete the full review.
Emelina Chillson
13.05.2013		Just got my free copy from Imageline (I know a guy who knows a guy). Ill be lettin yalll know how everything goes later this week. Super diggin using my vst effects.
Brunilda Kora
08.05.2013
Originally Posted by Imageline
• DVS* - FinalScratch#, msPinky#, Serato Scratch Live#, Torq#, MixVibes#, PCJD Reflex#,
Virtual DJ# & Deckadance CD time-code. Deckadance can also learn any new time-code.
So they don't MENTION Traktor timecode specifically - BUT if D2 can LEARN ANY timecode you should be fine....
Hanna Ridenbaugh
08.05.2013		Seriously considering making the switch to D2. Have you purchased it yet? How you getting on? how is the stability of D2? Checked out the demo and it was pretty cool.

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