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The business and legal end of remix work - LOOKING FOR ANSWERS
Posted on: 16.06.2013 by Elenore Verseman
Hello,
I recently approached a musician friend of mine after his album recently came out (his album is rock music mostly). I told him, your album inspires me, how about getting a techno remix made by a DJ I know? That DJ's won top awards for his remix work so that song would be in good hands. I recently set up a call the musician and the remixer to meet each other and talk. Soon after that emails started flying the remixer and the owner of the song's rights, etc. in other words, this baby's on its way. So I'm excited about that.

The remix project will be done for no money, the remixer (who's a very good friend of mine) simply asking for the musician to make himself available for vocals work on a future project of his, should the need come up.

still, he will get his lawyer involved, as per expectations, and have him draw up a simple remix agreement.

My question (finally!) is the following: how can I remain relevant to this project as it goes through its evolution? It was my idea after all. That said, I'm not looking for a payout. I had an idea, and seeing that idea lead to an actual remix that will be played in the clubs is reward enough (I really admire the musician and want him to be successful, tapping into a new kind of demographic could help that). But I still want to make sure that this will always be known as my idea (ego and all, and on principle).

Should I ask the remixer to include my name in the simple remix agreement? But in what capacity? Creative producer, for example? does that even exist? obviously I don't want to ruffle any feathers. And everyone involved probably knows that this was my idea. Once the project gets past the seminal stage, I'm technically out of the picture since I'm not making any further contributions (and all discussions will be between engineers, remixer, artist, etc).

Can I say that I want to be the artist's exclusive representation on this project?

Or, should I just ask everyone to keep cc'ing me on all emails?

I'm just not sure how to go about this.

Thanks to anyone who can offer any input or advice on this.

ZD
Klara Kinnebrew
17.06.2013
Originally Posted by The Mighty FV
How is it getting out of hand?
He said BEFORE it gets out of hand. As in, that is the direction it is going...
Joesph Kasian
17.06.2013
Originally Posted by dripstep
This thread needs to be closed before it gets out of hand.
How is it getting out of hand? no one has said anything insulting, we are just throwing banter around due to the nature of how crazy it sounds man.

You sounded a bit like my Dad then.
Joesph Kasian
17.06.2013
Originally Posted by b1sh0p
This is like introducing your friend to some chick. They get married and have a kid and you want to be on the birth certificate. Good luck with that.
hahahaha that is brilliant, and oddly exactly like this. good post man.
Shawn Vanhaitsma
17.06.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
It is literally taking ALL of my will power not to respond to your original post.

20489097.jpg
You need to lack self control like me hah :P

Hes looking for answers guys ) heh
Brunilda Kora
17.06.2013
Originally Posted by zedsdead
Creative producer, for example?
It is literally taking ALL of my will power not to respond to your original post.

20489097.jpg
Elenore Verseman
16.06.2013
Hello,
I recently approached a musician friend of mine after his album recently came out (his album is rock music mostly). I told him, your album inspires me, how about getting a techno remix made by a DJ I know? That DJ's won top awards for his remix work so that song would be in good hands. I recently set up a call the musician and the remixer to meet each other and talk. Soon after that emails started flying the remixer and the owner of the song's rights, etc. in other words, this baby's on its way. So I'm excited about that.

The remix project will be done for no money, the remixer (who's a very good friend of mine) simply asking for the musician to make himself available for vocals work on a future project of his, should the need come up.

still, he will get his lawyer involved, as per expectations, and have him draw up a simple remix agreement.

My question (finally!) is the following: how can I remain relevant to this project as it goes through its evolution? It was my idea after all. That said, I'm not looking for a payout. I had an idea, and seeing that idea lead to an actual remix that will be played in the clubs is reward enough (I really admire the musician and want him to be successful, tapping into a new kind of demographic could help that). But I still want to make sure that this will always be known as my idea (ego and all, and on principle).

Should I ask the remixer to include my name in the simple remix agreement? But in what capacity? Creative producer, for example? does that even exist? obviously I don't want to ruffle any feathers. And everyone involved probably knows that this was my idea. Once the project gets past the seminal stage, I'm technically out of the picture since I'm not making any further contributions (and all discussions will be between engineers, remixer, artist, etc).

Can I say that I want to be the artist's exclusive representation on this project?

Or, should I just ask everyone to keep cc'ing me on all emails?

I'm just not sure how to go about this.

Thanks to anyone who can offer any input or advice on this.

ZD
Klara Kinnebrew
17.06.2013
Originally Posted by The Mighty FV
How is it getting out of hand?
He said BEFORE it gets out of hand. As in, that is the direction it is going...
Joesph Kasian
17.06.2013
Originally Posted by dripstep
This thread needs to be closed before it gets out of hand.
How is it getting out of hand? no one has said anything insulting, we are just throwing banter around due to the nature of how crazy it sounds man.

You sounded a bit like my Dad then.
Yong Aptekar
17.06.2013
This thread needs to be closed before it gets out of hand.
Gaynell Rydberg
17.06.2013
Are you really Zeds Dead? Is that your famous DJ friend?
Hank Guidas
17.06.2013
Hhahaha, true.
Brunilda Kora
17.06.2013
Originally Posted by b1sh0p
This is like introducing your friend to some chick. They get married and have a kid and you want to be on the birth certificate. Good luck with that.
/thread
Joesph Kasian
17.06.2013
Originally Posted by b1sh0p
This is like introducing your friend to some chick. They get married and have a kid and you want to be on the birth certificate. Good luck with that.
hahahaha that is brilliant, and oddly exactly like this. good post man.
Sonja Roybal
17.06.2013
This is like introducing your friend to some chick. They get married and have a kid and you want to be on the birth certificate. Good luck with that.
Joesph Kasian
17.06.2013
I have a similar story with a good producer friend who has now been signed to engineer for one of the biggest pop acts in England. He was introduced to him by another guy, who wanted to stay relevant in the deal without being able to offer anything other than the first meeting between these guys.

Unfortunately for you, and him, unless you can produce yourself and the artist wants to use your talents you have no say or right to stay within this 'deal' - all you did was get them talking.

You will not be credited anywhere on the contracts, releases or promo...you were just a guy who set up a meeting and helped the remixer get a shot at something exciting. It's how the music world works.
Shawn Vanhaitsma
17.06.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
It is literally taking ALL of my will power not to respond to your original post.

20489097.jpg
You need to lack self control like me hah :P

Hes looking for answers guys ) heh
Brunilda Kora
17.06.2013
Originally Posted by zedsdead
Creative producer, for example?
It is literally taking ALL of my will power not to respond to your original post.

20489097.jpg
Jerica Salava
17.06.2013
you are hanging with a DJ and the lead singer of a band ... sounds like you're getting VIP tix to Pussyfest 2013.

enjoy the perks.
Wei Lebeaux
16.06.2013
No dude. Just no.
Yong Aptekar
16.06.2013
I would ask for a free high five and that's it. You had no part in the creation of the original, the work on the remix or any of the creative processes. All you did was connect 2 friends.
Romelia Stankard
16.06.2013
If this doesn't work out how you like and you want creative credit without really doing anything you can always get some tracks ghost written that you can put your name on.
Marshall Aby
16.06.2013
Nah. Nada for you. I mean, maybe a couple of pints
Tera Baragan
16.06.2013
All i can say is wow lol. Trying to get credit for doing what exactly..? Being the friend in between.
Valeri Holderness
16.06.2013
You could pull a DJ Khaled, he doesn't contribute anything musically but he always yells his name in the start of every song

Jokes aside, I personally believe you should just let it be. I'm sure they all appreciate you setting everything up, but if the real meat of the project (the music) is done by others; they should get that credit. I'm sure both artists appreciate that you set this up, and will get you back some how in the future

Hope that helps!

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