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Insight Wanted! Strange night-club regulations in Japan.
Posted on: 22.06.2013 by Dionne Bullock
Hi,

I am posting today to get some insight regarding the evening club regulations that exist in Japan.

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In Japan, if a venue wants to serve food/drinks, play music, and allow the customers to dance all at the same time, it must obtain an "adult entertainment permit".

The permit restricts the operation of a venue in several ways. One such restriction is that the venue may not be open between 0 a.m. and sunrise.

This makes it impossible for big obviously-intended-to-be-a-evening club venues to legally stay open after midevening , and for smaller bars and cafes (usually running without the permit) to stay legal, the manager would have to go around telling the customers to stop dancing - if they start moving their bodies to the music.

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What are your thoughts? Do you believe this is a good idea? On the contrary?
Do you have similar regulations in your country? What are those like? Where is this?

Any feedback will be much appreciated! Thank you.
Alla Bluemke
24.06.2013
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
thats pretty crazy. Around here headline djs dont start until 3am at some places. It's kind of a pain in the ass really.
I really hated that sometimes in Chicago and NY. Headliner wouldn't get on until like 2am or something. Its makes it so the evening get so freaking late its insane, and really annoying. BUT now in SF places close at 2am, so that sucks because the evening ends at like 1:30.
Romelia Stankard
23.06.2013
Originally Posted by deevey

And yes for many many years Ireland had many weird and wonderful laws regarding clubs/bars/dancing etc ... at one point the closing time was changed from 3am to 1am! (bear in mind opening time was 11pm!)
thats pretty crazy. Around here headline djs dont start until 3am at some places. It's kind of a pain in the ass really.
Dionne Bullock
22.06.2013
Hi,

I am posting today to get some insight regarding the evening club regulations that exist in Japan.

--

In Japan, if a venue wants to serve food/drinks, play music, and allow the customers to dance all at the same time, it must obtain an "adult entertainment permit".

The permit restricts the operation of a venue in several ways. One such restriction is that the venue may not be open between 0 a.m. and sunrise.

This makes it impossible for big obviously-intended-to-be-a-evening club venues to legally stay open after midevening , and for smaller bars and cafes (usually running without the permit) to stay legal, the manager would have to go around telling the customers to stop dancing - if they start moving their bodies to the music.

--

What are your thoughts? Do you believe this is a good idea? On the contrary?
Do you have similar regulations in your country? What are those like? Where is this?

Any feedback will be much appreciated! Thank you.
Latoria Kavulich
24.06.2013
They should just rename them "Early Evening Clubs" to avoid confusion
Alla Bluemke
24.06.2013
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
thats pretty crazy. Around here headline djs dont start until 3am at some places. It's kind of a pain in the ass really.
I really hated that sometimes in Chicago and NY. Headliner wouldn't get on until like 2am or something. Its makes it so the evening get so freaking late its insane, and really annoying. BUT now in SF places close at 2am, so that sucks because the evening ends at like 1:30.
Rolanda Clodfelder
24.06.2013
@DJ MiCL ... here's an interesting report on the the proposed Nightclub Reform for Ireland which might be worth a look .. lots of pretty graphics so even I could read it

It also outlines the Nightclub laws in other EU countries as well.

http://www.inia.ie/media/DrConstantinGurdgievReport.pdf

I'm still stunned at the no dancing rule though !!!

OT: *Footloose was on the TV earlier and I immediately thought of this thread haha




*Story of a kid living that moved to a small town thats outlawed dancing
Augustina Zulu
24.06.2013
When i was DJing around in NYC in the late 90's there were restrictions that required any institution that had people dancing require a "cabaret license". It wasn't so much a problem with the big clubs, they would just pay, but the little bars never did and it was pretty absurd. There were NO DANCING signs in a lot of the bars. Looking back, I'm sad I never picked one up from one of the restaurant supply stores.

Basically once the body movement got past foot tappin and head noddin, they would get the bouncer to go around and literally tell people to stop. I even had one joint tell me to stop playing so funky. Thing was, there were cops that would go to these joints and fine them 5 bills a dancer or something absurd like that, so I can understand why they didn't want to get hit with that. It just made for some really awkward evening s. Especially cause dance music was huge at that point in NYC with tons of active record shops, clubs, DJs, etc..

The effect though was that it pushed the culture into illegal venues. For a while we ran a roof top party which got pretty hot because it was one of the few places you could actually dance without paying mega club prices.
Dionne Bullock
23.06.2013
>hellnagative
Yeah, I figured restricting the serving of alcohol is pretty common in american states. The weirdness in Japan is that the law actually restricts dancing. (Or, the venue allowing the customers to dance

>Xonetacular
Same here in Japan. So all the headliners are DJing past the legal business hours.
Romelia Stankard
23.06.2013
Originally Posted by deevey

And yes for many many years Ireland had many weird and wonderful laws regarding clubs/bars/dancing etc ... at one point the closing time was changed from 3am to 1am! (bear in mind opening time was 11pm!)
thats pretty crazy. Around here headline djs dont start until 3am at some places. It's kind of a pain in the ass really.
Emelina Chillson
23.06.2013
This peaked my curiosity and made me look into the laws here. According to our laws in Clark County, NV operating a theater license you must shut down at 2am if serving alcohol but can run 24 hours without a bar. If you are serving food you must shut down at midevening . If serving food and alcohol you must shut down at 11pm. With a special event permit you cannot serve food and run past 11pm unless using a catering service. strange
Kellie Myrum
23.06.2013
Yeah! Looking forwards to seeing new stuff.
Dionne Bullock
23.06.2013
Hey Stewe, I've been busy believeing of what to do next and not really doing anything... Time for action!
Kellie Myrum
23.06.2013
PumpUp TheDJ

Nice to see ya dude!
Dionne Bullock
23.06.2013
deevey, thanks for the feedback!
Rolanda Clodfelder
22.06.2013
Seriously Insane rules, and yet on reading some community s some (even youngsters) seem to believe that its a good idea in order to curb the illegalities that DO go hand in hand with the evening club industry

Its a jab at trying to curb other illegal activities (drugs/prostitution) rather than a jab at Underground clubs from what I see. However its a really long shot in the dark, certainly its not a solution. All it does is simply move the problems to harder to reach locations and makes them yet more difficult to deal with in the future.

As the saying goes "better the devil you know" .. well its being ignored this time.

For now perhaps the simple solution is "Dj Boxes" instead of Karaoke Boxes.

And yes for many many years Ireland had many weird and wonderful laws regarding clubs/bars/dancing etc ... at one point the closing time was changed from 3am to 1am! (bear in mind opening time was 11pm!)

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