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A quick question for turntablists & scratch deejays
Posted on: 03.09.2013 by Josef Modine
First off: Thanks for taking the time to read this.
I recenty bought a couple of second hand Numark tt200 with the straight tonearms and the numark CC-1 elements.
I want to use them mainly for scratching (timecode and normal vynil) but i am having some trouble finding a good reference/settings tutorial for the tonearms. The manual is kind of vague and most sites i find all say something different. anybody here have the same (or similar) tables and can recommend settings? or know of a good tutorial to do it myself?
Josef Modine
03.09.2013
First off: Thanks for taking the time to read this.
I recenty bought a couple of second hand Numark tt200 with the straight tonearms and the numark CC-1 elements.
I want to use them mainly for scratching (timecode and normal vynil) but i am having some trouble finding a good reference/settings tutorial for the tonearms. The manual is kind of vague and most sites i find all say something different. anybody here have the same (or similar) tables and can recommend settings? or know of a good tutorial to do it myself?
Masako Barcalow
04.09.2013
Budding turntablist here!

Just wanted to pop in here because I had the same question. Right now I've got a bit of a heavy hand, but I'm getting better. Thanks Patch, your input was greatly appreciated, as I was worried about the same thing!

Josef Modine
04.09.2013
I've been a hiphop head since the early eighties and geting my own set of wheels has been a lifelong dream. I only ever diverted to midi because of my financial responsibilities as a parent and it was so much cheaper to get my own set up. I started doing electronic music as well mainly because i never really liked mixing hiphop on my midi controllers. Trying to scratch on my first hercules RMX was bad to say the least I also only recently found out it is possible to play normal vynil through traktor on my S4. Now i got these decks in a bargain and they seem great as a "starter" device before i start saving up for some 1200s or 1210s (which are REALLY hard to get cheapish here)

@P4ULSON thanks also for the input and vid, I put the CC-1s on 4 grams now to try out
Arnulfo Morten
03.09.2013
most turntabilist that care about tracking weight runs 3-5grams i personally run at 4 grams on m44-7 and technics headshell. on my ortofon concords i run 3.5 grams. Difference in straight vs S tone arm is how you mount your cartridge. On straight tone arms i just leave the cartridge flush and straight with the front edge of the headshell. on s tone arms i angle my cartridge for better tracking.

here you go a tutorial
Brunilda Kora
03.09.2013
Good boy. We need more Hip-Hop heads and turntablists around here!
Josef Modine
03.09.2013
hahaha i know the song and yes i will definitly try that! good looking out man
Brunilda Kora
03.09.2013
No problem. If you're going to learn howto scratch/juggle, I suggest you get hold of the Run-DMC track, Peter Piper. It's an ABSOLUTE CLASSIC turntablist track, and it has a line inthe first verse that you're gonna love to scratch:

Originally Posted by Run-DMC - Peter Piper
Now Peter Piper picked peppers but Run rocked rhymes
Humpty Dumpty fell down that's his hard time
Jack B. Nimble what nimble and he was quick
But Jam Master cut faster Jack's on Jay's dick
Now Little Bo Peep cold lost her sheep
And Rip van Winkle fell the hell asleep
And Alice chillin somewhere in Wonderland
Jack's servin Jill a bucket in his hand
And Jam Master Jay's making out our sound
The turntables might wobble but they don't fall down
Josef Modine
03.09.2013
will try it like you suggest. thanks a lot for this insight! very much appreciated
Brunilda Kora
03.09.2013
The max you should use at any time is the MINIMUM force that you can scratch at without the needle jumping.

Start at 5 or 6g, and then adjust downwards until you reach that minimum weight where you can scratch without jumps.

As you get better, and you get a softer touch, you'll be able to reduce the weight on the tonearm.
Josef Modine
03.09.2013
what would you suggest then as a sort of max? so i won't see curls of vynil coming of haha
Brunilda Kora
03.09.2013
Whatever works for you - just be aware that at 6g you MAY cause damage to your records with repeated scratching.

It's not really a big issue with timecode vinyl ('cos you can just use different parts of the record every time you scratch) but on real vinyl, scratching/cueing the same part of the record over and over again with 6g force is gonna cause irrepairable damage to your wax.
Josef Modine
03.09.2013
thanks for the reply so i just set the cc-1s to the max needle pressure then as long as i'm learning? (being 6 grams according to specs, suggested is 3-6 gr)
Brunilda Kora
03.09.2013
Just get them as well set as possible - trial and error. Balance them so that they are perfectly level, then add the suggested amount of weight for the CC-1's. Then (maybe...) add a little extra weight to compensate for your learning.

When you are starting out, no matter how well you calibrate and set your turntables, you are going to get skips and jumps. That's just you learning to scratch.

Good luck!
Josef Modine
03.09.2013
I mean specificly for the straight tonearms

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