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eBay CDJ 2000 scam; my personal experience.
Posted on: 10.09.2013 by Charline Gossom
Hi all,

I was recently the victim of a rather stressful, eBay scam that attempted to suck me out of
Lina Rawie
16.09.2013		Buyers are well protected on eBay as long as they pay with PayPal and pay attention to the time limit for making a claim.

It's much easier to get scammed if you're a seller that isn't clued up to eBay's rules. What I do is this: -

With regular first class mail in the UK, you're covered for up to 100 times the value of a first class stamp if mail goes missing. So for cheap items, I just send them first class and get a proof of posting (which doesn't cost any extra), then if it goes missing I can put in a claim with the Royal Mail.

For items that don't fit into the above category, but sell for less than
Anibal Hoormann
15.09.2013		I've done something related.

I used a mail-proxy in the USA to ship me an order to EU (because the company did not send anything outside the USA) ... and to be honest, when i paid through paypal (yes everything was through paypal I know it's safe) ... but I was so scared, the website looks like scamlikewebsite, and a lot of ppl were saying bad thing about this company on internet (even on Google Maps I couldn't find it, it was in the middle of nowhere in Illinois (but just because the company was too young and the last update too old).

And finally everything found its way hom to daddy, but until then I was soo scared, ok it wasn't
Isela Retano
15.09.2013
Originally Posted by JJDShrimpton
Hi all,

I was recently the victim of a rather stressful, eBay scam that attempted to suck me out of
Lina Rawie
16.09.2013		Buyers are well protected on eBay as long as they pay with PayPal and pay attention to the time limit for making a claim.

It's much easier to get scammed if you're a seller that isn't clued up to eBay's rules. What I do is this: -

With regular first class mail in the UK, you're covered for up to 100 times the value of a first class stamp if mail goes missing. So for cheap items, I just send them first class and get a proof of posting (which doesn't cost any extra), then if it goes missing I can put in a claim with the Royal Mail.

For items that don't fit into the above category, but sell for less than
Anibal Hoormann
15.09.2013		I've done something related.

I used a mail-proxy in the USA to ship me an order to EU (because the company did not send anything outside the USA) ... and to be honest, when i paid through paypal (yes everything was through paypal I know it's safe) ... but I was so scared, the website looks like scamlikewebsite, and a lot of ppl were saying bad thing about this company on internet (even on Google Maps I couldn't find it, it was in the middle of nowhere in Illinois (but just because the company was too young and the last update too old).

And finally everything found its way hom to daddy, but until then I was soo scared, ok it wasn't
Isela Retano
15.09.2013
Originally Posted by JJDShrimpton
Hi all,

I was recently the victim of a rather stressful, eBay scam that attempted to suck me out of
Lina Rawie
16.09.2013		Buyers are well protected on eBay as long as they pay with PayPal and pay attention to the time limit for making a claim.

It's much easier to get scammed if you're a seller that isn't clued up to eBay's rules. What I do is this: -

With regular first class mail in the UK, you're covered for up to 100 times the value of a first class stamp if mail goes missing. So for cheap items, I just send them first class and get a proof of posting (which doesn't cost any extra), then if it goes missing I can put in a claim with the Royal Mail.

For items that don't fit into the above category, but sell for less than
Anibal Hoormann
15.09.2013		I've done something related.

I used a mail-proxy in the USA to ship me an order to EU (because the company did not send anything outside the USA) ... and to be honest, when i paid through paypal (yes everything was through paypal I know it's safe) ... but I was so scared, the website looks like scamlikewebsite, and a lot of ppl were saying bad thing about this company on internet (even on Google Maps I couldn't find it, it was in the middle of nowhere in Illinois (but just because the company was too young and the last update too old).

And finally everything found its way hom to daddy, but until then I was soo scared, ok it wasn't
Charline Gossom
15.09.2013		Hey all, thanks for your responses.

Originally Posted by sss18734
Man... props to eBay for refunding you your money in a timely fashion. That's just awesome. You learned your lesson and didn't have to pay a dime for it.
Yeah I learned a lot from this experience, it was absolute torture waiting for it to clear but it all worked out in the end. I'm not trying to convince anybody not to use eBay, just trying to give a real story of how things felt at the time and how the system works for those that are unsure as at the time of purchasing the 'item' myself I was totally naive as to the eBay buyer protection protocols.

Just be wise and know what you are getting yourself into before you do.
Isela Retano
15.09.2013
Originally Posted by JJDShrimpton
Hi all,

I was recently the victim of a rather stressful, eBay scam that attempted to suck me out of
Jerica Salava
14.09.2013
Originally Posted by Cook
have you never heard the saying, if its too good to be true, it probably isnt?
nope, actually never heard that one before.
Dione Haimes
11.09.2013		eBay ALWAYS protects the buyer. full stop. 100%.

but

have you never heard the saying, if its too good to be true, it probably isnt?

have you never seen the auctions looking like its a mixer with
Tommie Siefkes
10.09.2013		Def feel your pain...esp when you've paid for it, the agony of waiting is torture...the reverse happened to me in that I sold and the buyer didn't pay...contacted him a few times then ebay..opened a case..still nothing..I was wise not send the item before I got the money so it was no loss to me...but having to wait around a few weeks till I could sell *&^%$
Doreen Schurle
10.09.2013
Originally Posted by JJDShrimpton
Hi Makar1, whilst I appreciate that is the case what I was trying to do here was document my own experience in a way that other people may find useful when considering buying an expensive item from eBay. I was constantly being told by everyone 'don't worry, you will get your money back' but it's very hard to just accept that when you've got an entire month to wait before you are likely to see that money back in your account.
You WILL get your money back though, that's just the thing. PayPal are insured to the hilt and it's no skin off their nose to refund you even if the seller has done a runner with the cash. I'm in a similar situation currently where I bought an amplifier and the seller promised to deliver then reneged on the deal. Gotta wait a few more days then I'll be getting a refund. It CAN be worrying if you're new to eBay or have never bought something that expensive on there before, but really eBay/PayPal is the safest way of buying things full stop.
Charline Gossom
10.09.2013		Hi all,

I was recently the victim of a rather stressful, eBay scam that attempted to suck me out of
Lina Rawie
16.09.2013		Buyers are well protected on eBay as long as they pay with PayPal and pay attention to the time limit for making a claim.

It's much easier to get scammed if you're a seller that isn't clued up to eBay's rules. What I do is this: -

With regular first class mail in the UK, you're covered for up to 100 times the value of a first class stamp if mail goes missing. So for cheap items, I just send them first class and get a proof of posting (which doesn't cost any extra), then if it goes missing I can put in a claim with the Royal Mail.

For items that don't fit into the above category, but sell for less than
Matthew Yanagisawa
16.09.2013		Yup. eBay do have some scammers. I tried getting a Shure SM53 and finally found a pretty good deal from a vendor in China. I usually dont buy stuff from China since 99.9% of the time it will be a knock off but for $15 I bit.

After 3 weeks the package arrives. When I opened it, it was a pirated copy of Microsoft Office 2003 with a (badly) printed hologram with the serial key. I was like WTF?! so when I get to check the buyer feedback (all positive to that date) all the other buyers feedback went like "SELLER IS A SCAMMER! I BOUGHT an XXX GOT AN OFFICE CD?!". Paypal rapidly returner the money but I got really weary of overseas deals.

Another word of caution, eBay protects the buyer WAY more that it protects the sellers. If you sell something and you do not provide a tracking number the buyer can say "didnt got it" and they will get the money back to buyer and you will be without money and item. I have sold stuff internationally since oversea buyers would usually pay more (maybe since no one is willing to ship there?) and (knock on wood) have had no issues. Just be aware of countries that dont have proper tracking for shipments.
Anibal Hoormann
15.09.2013		I've done something related.

I used a mail-proxy in the USA to ship me an order to EU (because the company did not send anything outside the USA) ... and to be honest, when i paid through paypal (yes everything was through paypal I know it's safe) ... but I was so scared, the website looks like scamlikewebsite, and a lot of ppl were saying bad thing about this company on internet (even on Google Maps I couldn't find it, it was in the middle of nowhere in Illinois (but just because the company was too young and the last update too old).

And finally everything found its way hom to daddy, but until then I was soo scared, ok it wasn't
Charline Gossom
15.09.2013		Hey all, thanks for your responses.

Originally Posted by sss18734
Man... props to eBay for refunding you your money in a timely fashion. That's just awesome. You learned your lesson and didn't have to pay a dime for it.
Yeah I learned a lot from this experience, it was absolute torture waiting for it to clear but it all worked out in the end. I'm not trying to convince anybody not to use eBay, just trying to give a real story of how things felt at the time and how the system works for those that are unsure as at the time of purchasing the 'item' myself I was totally naive as to the eBay buyer protection protocols.

Just be wise and know what you are getting yourself into before you do.
Isela Retano
15.09.2013
Originally Posted by JJDShrimpton
Hi all,

I was recently the victim of a rather stressful, eBay scam that attempted to suck me out of
Erica Charvet
15.09.2013		Man... props to eBay for refunding you your money in a timely fashion. That's just awesome. You learned your lesson and didn't have to pay a dime for it.
Jerica Salava
14.09.2013
Originally Posted by Cook
have you never heard the saying, if its too good to be true, it probably isnt?
nope, actually never heard that one before.
Heriberto Milks
11.09.2013		I've almost fallen victim to a similar scam on Craigslist, sadly, where the seller tries to sell CDJ2000's from some location in Indonesia.

My question is: how fruitful could this possibly be? most DJ's aren't THAT rich, so what's the point of trying to scam them out of a few hundred bucks?
Dione Haimes
11.09.2013		eBay ALWAYS protects the buyer. full stop. 100%.

but

have you never heard the saying, if its too good to be true, it probably isnt?

have you never seen the auctions looking like its a mixer with
Tommie Siefkes
10.09.2013		Def feel your pain...esp when you've paid for it, the agony of waiting is torture...the reverse happened to me in that I sold and the buyer didn't pay...contacted him a few times then ebay..opened a case..still nothing..I was wise not send the item before I got the money so it was no loss to me...but having to wait around a few weeks till I could sell *&^%$
Julissa Serrone
10.09.2013		For big ticket items I'll buy on eBay from known vendors. Pro Audio Star usually has some sweet deals on there that larger chain stores (Guitar Center) can't compete with.
Josef Modine
10.09.2013		If it's second hand and over a 100, and i can't go pick it up myself, i'm not buying. no matter how sweet the deal looks... it's my own failproof insurance.
Lillia Datson
10.09.2013		And this is is why i buy from the shop direct or collect in person!
Doreen Schurle
10.09.2013
Originally Posted by JJDShrimpton
Hi Makar1, whilst I appreciate that is the case what I was trying to do here was document my own experience in a way that other people may find useful when considering buying an expensive item from eBay. I was constantly being told by everyone 'don't worry, you will get your money back' but it's very hard to just accept that when you've got an entire month to wait before you are likely to see that money back in your account.
You WILL get your money back though, that's just the thing. PayPal are insured to the hilt and it's no skin off their nose to refund you even if the seller has done a runner with the cash. I'm in a similar situation currently where I bought an amplifier and the seller promised to deliver then reneged on the deal. Gotta wait a few more days then I'll be getting a refund. It CAN be worrying if you're new to eBay or have never bought something that expensive on there before, but really eBay/PayPal is the safest way of buying things full stop.
Charline Gossom
10.09.2013		Hi Makar1, whilst I appreciate that is the case what I was trying to do here was document my own experience in a way that other people may find useful when considering buying an expensive item from eBay. I was constantly being told by everyone 'don't worry, you will get your money back' but it's very hard to just accept that when you've got an entire month to wait before you are likely to see that money back in your account.
Alphonso Deitchman
10.09.2013		If you pay with Paypal you can claim back any goods payment if there's no proof it arrived at your house.

Using Ebay properly isn't a lottery or something that requires luck.

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