iOS can control remix decks, why can't android?

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iOS can control remix decks, why can't android?
Posted on: 28.02.2013 by Mabelle Anstaett
Maybe I'm missing something here, but I've been trying to find just something that will let me control the remix decks with my android device. I don't see what the issue is. I'm an android developer, and while I don't know much about MIDI programming I know that there's almost always a way to do something if you know how to code. Is there an app I don't know about? I'm a college student, so I don't have the money to blow on an F1, but I really want to incorporate the remix decks into my DJ sets. Can someone help me out?
Nedra Fresneda
01.03.2013
Originally Posted by zack771
Sadly you're misinformed. There's a layout out there for lemur and there's an F1 hack project WRITTEN IN JAVA that supposedly allows you to fake the MIDI signals.
It's not MIDI, it's HID that you need to control the remix deck's grid. Most of the hacks rely on mouse movement and clicking emulation which is by no means a viable solution unless you are desperate for it. I haven't been following the recent development of the hacks but last time I checked they were clunky and buggy or simply needed to be set up each time. No one wants part of their controller rig to die mid set or take control of your mouse pointer and not release it upon crashing.

As far as I know, Android doesn't do very good with low latency MIDI signals over wifi (iOS does way better at this) and that is the main reason most developers don't even bother with it. Competition is always good so i'd love to see Google taking some time and fixing this.
Marshall Aby
01.03.2013
Originally Posted by zack771
I'm an android developer
You've identified a gap in the (Android) market then.
Teresia Janusch
01.03.2013
Originally Posted by zack771
Sadly you're misinformed. There's a layout out there for lemur and there's an F1 hack project WRITTEN IN JAVA that supposedly allows you to fake the MIDI signals.
Ok, theres no legit way...and i prefer to live in a world of facts rather than supposedly
Kasandra Kreindler
28.02.2013
Originally Posted by zack771
Sadly you're misinformed. There's a layout out there for lemur and there's an F1 hack project WRITTEN IN JAVA that supposedly allows you to fake the MIDI signals.
no legit NI approved way... slash nothing i would depend on personally if you were gigging out
Mabelle Anstaett
28.02.2013
Originally Posted by djchriswoods.co.uk
there is no way without an f1 or mf3d
Sadly you're misinformed. There's a layout out there for lemur and there's an F1 hack project WRITTEN IN JAVA that supposedly allows you to fake the MIDI signals.
Mabelle Anstaett
28.02.2013
Maybe I'm missing something here, but I've been trying to find just something that will let me control the remix decks with my android device. I don't see what the issue is. I'm an android developer, and while I don't know much about MIDI programming I know that there's almost always a way to do something if you know how to code. Is there an app I don't know about? I'm a college student, so I don't have the money to blow on an F1, but I really want to incorporate the remix decks into my DJ sets. Can someone help me out?
Annis Schmauder
22.09.2013
I hope you are still needing it, I just made an Android App for this

Will be on google play within the next few days.

Have a nice day, Alex
Nedra Fresneda
01.03.2013
Originally Posted by zack771
Sadly you're misinformed. There's a layout out there for lemur and there's an F1 hack project WRITTEN IN JAVA that supposedly allows you to fake the MIDI signals.
It's not MIDI, it's HID that you need to control the remix deck's grid. Most of the hacks rely on mouse movement and clicking emulation which is by no means a viable solution unless you are desperate for it. I haven't been following the recent development of the hacks but last time I checked they were clunky and buggy or simply needed to be set up each time. No one wants part of their controller rig to die mid set or take control of your mouse pointer and not release it upon crashing.

As far as I know, Android doesn't do very good with low latency MIDI signals over wifi (iOS does way better at this) and that is the main reason most developers don't even bother with it. Competition is always good so i'd love to see Google taking some time and fixing this.
Marshall Aby
01.03.2013
Originally Posted by zack771
I'm an android developer
You've identified a gap in the (Android) market then.
Kiyoko Wellisch
01.03.2013
Well it'd be a pretty simple task- though it'd the HID messages you're imitating, not the F1 midi mode

If it were midi you could easily fake it with most controllers!
Teresia Janusch
01.03.2013
Originally Posted by zack771
Sadly you're misinformed. There's a layout out there for lemur and there's an F1 hack project WRITTEN IN JAVA that supposedly allows you to fake the MIDI signals.
Ok, theres no legit way...and i prefer to live in a world of facts rather than supposedly
Kiyoko Wellisch
01.03.2013
Android still has latency issues. I suspect it's just that Android has no way for applications to establish real time priority but it could just be that their audio stack is really crappy. Either way it's a poor platform for audio work atm, sadly. I did hear stories of a company making some low latency 3rd party audio drivers or something along those lines so maybe further down the line it'll improve.

Personally I'm looking forward to Ubuntu on phones for portable music goodness
Kasandra Kreindler
28.02.2013
Originally Posted by zack771
Sadly you're misinformed. There's a layout out there for lemur and there's an F1 hack project WRITTEN IN JAVA that supposedly allows you to fake the MIDI signals.
no legit NI approved way... slash nothing i would depend on personally if you were gigging out
Mabelle Anstaett
28.02.2013
Originally Posted by djchriswoods.co.uk
there is no way without an f1 or mf3d
Sadly you're misinformed. There's a layout out there for lemur and there's an F1 hack project WRITTEN IN JAVA that supposedly allows you to fake the MIDI signals.
Teresia Janusch
28.02.2013
there is no way without an f1 or mf3d

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