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Want to help S4 Windows Users?
Posted on: 18.01.2011 by Len Lukawski
I am looking for a couple of guinea pigs for a simple Windows Batch File script I am working on. The script shuts down a host of services that are not used by Traktor S4. The goal of the script is to free up resources without requiring permanent changes to the Windows install. The hope is that it may help those users who are experiencing issues with drop outs, pops, crackles and other annoyances.

Please send me a message if you can answer YES to the following questions:

  1. Do you own an S4 and are running Windows 7?
  2. Are you having performance issues with your S4 (popping, crackling, drop outs etc)?
  3. Are you prepared to try out a script that might cause your pc to shut down or behave oddly? (no lasting damage will be done as we are making no configuration changes)
  4. Are you prepared to send screenshots of your machine to me? (Windows Services, Performance Monitor etc)
  5. Can you help this week and get back to me with any results/feedback/screenshots within 24 hours of my request?


If you have answered yes to all these questions please send me a message.
Cheers,
SmiTTTen
Emanuel Kepics
22.01.2011
Originally Posted by xtianw
given the amount of free developer support from microsoft, i cant help but look at these issues and go "wow, lazy thats lazy as fuck NI. If you wanted help understanding how to code for windows, all you had to do was ask".

im really sorry you guys have to put up with this kind of shit from NI. Although the only real way to effect change is to do this. Return your S4's. Insist on a refund and make NI eat the shrink and deal with pissed off vendors. That will force then to hire real windows developers rather than hiring contract code monkeys that are only working for 2-3 months via email and vpn.

given the amount of money theyv'e made over the years. issues like this are completely unacceptable.

good luck with your script. hope it helps those that are forced to hang in there in the meantime.
Too right! Unless people challenge NI's abysmal windows driver standards they will simply ignore the issue and continue selling S4 under the false claim that it's windows compatible. To add insult to injury, NI then pays support staff to dish out bogus advice how to completely cripple your computer, thus wasting countless hours of users time on top of taking their money under false pretenses. I totally agree with your statements ... affected users should demand a fix, or their legal entitlement to a full refund if the product doesn't work as advertised. 'Lazy as fuck' is spot on ...
Len Lukawski
18.01.2011
I am looking for a couple of guinea pigs for a simple Windows Batch File script I am working on. The script shuts down a host of services that are not used by Traktor S4. The goal of the script is to free up resources without requiring permanent changes to the Windows install. The hope is that it may help those users who are experiencing issues with drop outs, pops, crackles and other annoyances.

Please send me a message if you can answer YES to the following questions:

  1. Do you own an S4 and are running Windows 7?
  2. Are you having performance issues with your S4 (popping, crackling, drop outs etc)?
  3. Are you prepared to try out a script that might cause your pc to shut down or behave oddly? (no lasting damage will be done as we are making no configuration changes)
  4. Are you prepared to send screenshots of your machine to me? (Windows Services, Performance Monitor etc)
  5. Can you help this week and get back to me with any results/feedback/screenshots within 24 hours of my request?


If you have answered yes to all these questions please send me a message.
Cheers,
SmiTTTen
Len Lukawski
23.01.2011
***If you read past this line it will be at your own risk***

This is the script that myself and MartinK have been playing with. Martin is still doing some more testing but for those that want to try something to automate the stopping of most non-Traktor essential services, keep reading...

This script kills off your networking services and pretty much everything else Traktor doesn't need.


Copy the following to into a notepad file:

@Echo off

Echo Ready to stop all non-Traktor services?

pause

rem Stopping Windows Firewall and Windows Defender...
net stop mpssvc
net stop windefend

rem Stopping DHCP Client and Wireless LAN...
net stop WinHttpAutoProxySvc
net stop dhcp
net stop wlansvc

rem Stopping Other Network Related Services...
net stop "dns cache"
net stop netprofm
net stop nlasvc
net stop netman
net stop iphlpsvc
net stop lanmanworkstation
net stop "Bonjour Service"
net stop dhcp
net stop nsi
net stop lanmanserver
net stop lmhosts
net stop "shared access"
net stop nettcpportsharing
net stop remoteaccess
net stop alg
net stop bits
net stop peerdistsvc
net stop certpropsvc
net stop homegrouplistener
net stop homegroupprovider
net stop winrm
net stop Broswer
net stop TrkWks


rem Stopping other Windows Services...
net stop wscsvc
net stop DPS
net stop CscService
net stop WPDBusEnum
net stop ProtectedStorage
net stop RemoteRegistry
net stop seclogon
net stop wscsvc

rem Stopping Blue Tooth Services
net stop bthserv

rem Stopping Printer Services
net stop spooler

rem Stopping Remote Desktop and Remote Assistance Services
net stop sessionenv
net stop termservice

rem Stopping Windows Update Services
net stop wuauserv

rem Stopping iPod Services
net stop "ipod service"
net stop "Apple Mobile Device"

rem Stopping Stuff that makes your PC look nice...
net stop themes
net stop sensrsvc
net stop AeLookupSvc
net stop UxSms

rem Stopping Scanner, Camera and other imaging Services...
net stop stisvc

rem Stopping Windows Media Playing Sharing...
net stop WMPnetworksvc

rem Stopping Tablet Device Support...
net stop tabletinputservice

rem Stopping Other Windows Services...
net stop bdesvc
net stop wbengine
net stop uiodetect
net stop defragsvc
net stop axinstsv
net stop "w32time"
net stop wercplsupport

cls
Echo Time to Mix!
pause


Save the file as Killscript.bat (or whatever you want to call it, just make sure it has the .bat)

To launch the script double click on it or right click > run as administrator if you are in Vista/Win7.

What you will see:

Error messages relating to services that don't exist on your machine or services that are already stopped (or were never started). You may also see prompts asking you if you want to disable a dependent service. Hit Y/Yes.

This script will not stop Anti-Virus/Security and other third party services. I would love to include something that does but I have a job and a family... It will however knock out Windows Defender and Windows Firewall.

No permanent changes are made to your machine. When you want to revert back to running all services, simply reboot.

Please don't use this script if you are worried about Windows acting funny once you run it . We have done some basic testing but it's no Gamebooster. If you do play with it, let us know if it helps or not.

SmiTTTen
Karolis Petrauskas
23.01.2011
I use gamebooster and added a line in the services list to disable wifi. The only other thing I would like to disable during DJing is Microsoft security essentials. So far I have zero issues with the S4 and windows.

Smitten, you are on your way to becoming the windows guru around here. Keep it up!
Len Lukawski
22.01.2011
Understand there is a lot of frustration with this issue but can we get back to the topic? There are dozens of other threads for bitching about Win drivers and what a bunch of [insert expression of choice here] NI must be.
Emanuel Kepics
22.01.2011
Originally Posted by xtianw
given the amount of free developer support from microsoft, i cant help but look at these issues and go "wow, lazy thats lazy as fuck NI. If you wanted help understanding how to code for windows, all you had to do was ask".

im really sorry you guys have to put up with this kind of shit from NI. Although the only real way to effect change is to do this. Return your S4's. Insist on a refund and make NI eat the shrink and deal with pissed off vendors. That will force then to hire real windows developers rather than hiring contract code monkeys that are only working for 2-3 months via email and vpn.

given the amount of money theyv'e made over the years. issues like this are completely unacceptable.

good luck with your script. hope it helps those that are forced to hang in there in the meantime.
Too right! Unless people challenge NI's abysmal windows driver standards they will simply ignore the issue and continue selling S4 under the false claim that it's windows compatible. To add insult to injury, NI then pays support staff to dish out bogus advice how to completely cripple your computer, thus wasting countless hours of users time on top of taking their money under false pretenses. I totally agree with your statements ... affected users should demand a fix, or their legal entitlement to a full refund if the product doesn't work as advertised. 'Lazy as fuck' is spot on ...
Jonelle Pahulu
19.01.2011
i will be posting some useful links that helped me tweak my system to stream live audio and my opinion on Saturday
posting this just to subscribe to the thread while i prepare and gather the info of my post
until then good luck with the script smitten !
Charline Dye
18.01.2011
Mighty altruistic of you smitten! Cudos on the good Karma.

I do believe that some windows machines, even in spec, and optimized, will not work. From what I understand (as I am not a computer tech kinda guy), some of the problems come from the way manufacturers route usb and other things inside (usually less expensive laptops, but not always) to save a dollar or two. I say this because when I first started out I had a Dell (that was in spec) that wouldn't work with any sound card and had to ditch it for a better laptop. After a ton of tech line calls, I came to this consensus.

Those who got the S4 and tried using it on a fully loaded laptop were just not educated on what it takes to run a sound card and Traktor on a windows computer. Granted NI should put this in a FAQ or something so people new to laptop DJing will know what it takes, as I had to find out the hard way myself from community searches etc. how to optimize my system. (dual boot, tuning off processes, etc), and had no idea this needed to be done untill after I couldn't get things to work.

Your script could be good for those who don't feel comfortable digging around in their computer. Don't forget to turn of the cd/dvd drive too.
Candace Carmouche
18.01.2011
given the amount of free developer support from microsoft, i cant help but look at these issues and go "wow, lazy thats lazy as fuck NI. If you wanted help understanding how to code for windows, all you had to do was ask".

im really sorry you guys have to put up with this kind of shit from NI. Although the only real way to effect change is to do this. Return your S4's. Insist on a refund and make NI eat the shrink and deal with pissed off vendors. That will force then to hire real windows developers rather than hiring contract code monkeys that are only working for 2-3 months via email and vpn.

given the amount of money theyv'e made over the years. issues like this are completely unacceptable.

good luck with your script. hope it helps those that are forced to hang in there in the meantime.
Len Lukawski
18.01.2011
When I started believeing about this I was trying to come up with a way to optimize the environment without making configuration changes that would impact the overall use of the system. I have a dual boot setup that works just fine but I got the impression that not everyone wants to go down that route. With this script you run it, it stops pretty everything, you do your S4 thing and when you re-boot you are back to "normal". To be honest I am not sure why I am doing this as my system (so far) seems to be running well. I just hate the thought of people returning their S4 or feeling like they have to buy a $2000 laptop to get everything running.
Charline Dye
18.01.2011
My set up was working fine with out game booster as I had already done the optimizing windows for DJing, but I tried it for kicks, and it turns off a few more things for me, so I use it.
Leeanna Ayla
18.01.2011
Gamebooster helps a bunch of people, but I've seen some that say it doesn't help. And then there's those that believe everything should work flawlessly no matter how much crap they have running in the background on their $500 desktop.
Len Lukawski
18.01.2011
Interesting. Certainly more polished than the script I have written. How are people doing with it?
Charline Dye
18.01.2011
have you seen Game Booster?

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