Traktor S4 and BPM's

Traktor S4 and BPM's
Posted on: 02.03.2011 by Val Galaviz
Hey guys, i posted this on NI community s 3 days ago and havent gotten any response,pretty weird since i have read some users having BPM scanning issues.Hoping i'll have a better result on these community s!!

Has anyone else had this problem? I analyzed tracks from an external drive because thats wherei keep all my music and it shows the BPM for some folders and not others.In some folders the BPM shows for one song but not the rest...After i finally got the S4 to work on a Windows laptop(by reading this community of course) without drop outs and crackles, now this,ugh,frustrating.
I've been a Virtual DJ user since it first came out (ver. 5?) and loved the simple process of scanning for BPM's and i dont see anyhthing like that in Traktor for the S4.Could it be a Windows issue again?
I have about 2TB of music on an external andf believeing about inputting the BPM's manually.
Please HELP!
Thank you
Leeanna Ayla
15.03.2011
Originally Posted by padi_04
Picture this: Your external dies before/during a gig, what would you do?
If I were using an external drive I would just plug in my backup drive that I had so painstakingly mirrored to my other drive. That said, I would never use an external as my main source.
Nedra Fresneda
15.03.2011
Originally Posted by djeddiegroovez
thx chilly, that sounds easier than the way ive been doing it,change is imminent

do you/anyone know to install traktor with the database on the external drive? is this recommended?
You need to set the root folder to the external drive, but it isn't really recommended.

Picture this: Your external dies before/during a gig, what would you do?
Nick Ross
16.03.2011
My Traktor 'database' is on my internal HD.
Leeanna Ayla
15.03.2011
Originally Posted by padi_04
Picture this: Your external dies before/during a gig, what would you do?
If I were using an external drive I would just plug in my backup drive that I had so painstakingly mirrored to my other drive. That said, I would never use an external as my main source.
Nedra Fresneda
15.03.2011
Originally Posted by djeddiegroovez
thx chilly, that sounds easier than the way ive been doing it,change is imminent

do you/anyone know to install traktor with the database on the external drive? is this recommended?
You need to set the root folder to the external drive, but it isn't really recommended.

Picture this: Your external dies before/during a gig, what would you do?
Val Galaviz
15.03.2011
thx chilly, that sounds easier than the way ive been doing it,change is imminent

do you/anyone know to install traktor with the database on the external drive? is this recommended?
Nick Ross
14.03.2011
Yeah, that's highly inefficient. You have a number of options...this might be the easiest:

You can right-click a folder and then choose 'Import to Playlists' (from memory), and it will create a playlist based on that folder name.

So create a folder under playlists called 'HipHop', then add playlists you imported from your file structure.

The only problem with this is that playlists are not dynamic. So if you add something to an existing subfolder you will need to update manually.
Val Galaviz
15.03.2011
thx padi, im actually new to traktor,ive been using another dj app that let me search through explorer
@ Chilly,ok i understand that,but how do i transfer the music to the folders i create? for example on my external i have a folder called HipHop and in it there are subfolders by each artist from 2pac to YingYang,inside each artists there are subfolders for each album.
Do i import the HipHop folder first? or do i create a folder first then import?
I prefer to have my folders categorized by genre then inside that folder would be artists,then in artist folder would be their albums,i know this a 3 step process to view my music but ive been used to this way for so long now
Thx!!
Tatum Ansaldo
14.03.2011
any notable changes to browsing in TP2?
Nick Ross
14.03.2011
You have to create folders and playlists under those folders. Traktor Pro changed how it handled files from earlier versions.
Nedra Fresneda
14.03.2011
Well, it's a known fact that Traktor is slower and partially shows info in Explorer mode. At least I was believeing you were navigating the collection.
Val Galaviz
14.03.2011
thought i'd share what NI support told me, what i was doing wrong was looking in the explorer folder which will not show the BPM's,kind of annnoyiong because i'm used to my folder structure labeled by genre
Can i edit the folders traktor provides to reflect my folder structure on my external?

NI's response:

Open TRAKTOR KONTROL S4 MANUAL ENGLISH. click on HELP top left of Traktor app.
Select Open Manual.

Click Importing Your Music tab
3.2 Importing Music Folders

after adding the music folder in Traktor Preferences. Then analyze under the TRACK
COLLECTION folder. Right click on the Track Collection folder and choose Analyze
option.

Next

In Traktor's browser Tree only when selecting the Track Collection folder will the
BPM and Track Collection information show up correctly...

If looking at the music collection through the EXPLORE folder in Traktor Browser
tree, The files are being accessed and view through the computer, not the Track
data base collection.

Open the Track Collection folder and view the songs here, the bpm should show be
listed.

No, Traktor does not do KEY detection in the software.
Leeanna Ayla
11.03.2011
Tell Traktor that's where the music location is in preferences.
Val Galaviz
11.03.2011
Again, my apologies Karlos, as i mentioned,im new to this community thing.Do you have any clue as to how i can resolve my issue?

Chilly, what do you mean add my external drive? I added a folder from my external drive as you mentioned,through preferences,scanned it for BPM and only the first track of 20 in that folder sucessfully showed the BPM.I want to make sure it works i tell Traktor to scan over a terabyte of music to then find out only some were sucessful.Why do they make it so difficult? On my other laptop i use VDJ and whenever i add an ew drive or folder i scan it with no issues, i also notice the VDJ creates an XML file on whatever drive i connect.
How about reinstalling Traktor and telling it to put all it's data on the external, thus requiring the external to be plugged in before starting up traktor.
If i cant get this resolved,im jumping on the Denon MC6000 and my S4 will be returned,sold or will collect dust until NI can resolve this.I really like the unit but it's not as plug and play as they advertise.
By the way, I contacted NI about this,when they reply i'll post their response.
Thanks to all!
nayit ruiz jaramillo
11.03.2011
Pleas do not Treble Post.

Only make one post per issue please and make it in make it in the relevant subcommunity .


[threads merged]
Nick Ross
11.03.2011
You should try adding your external drive to the music collection in preferences.
Val Galaviz
10.03.2011
I realize what i did, i posted it in Controllers and then the S4,sorry about the duplicate posts.
Val Galaviz
10.03.2011
and by the way Chilly, no you have not answered on any of my posts, but if you have a solution please feel free to share it.
Val Galaviz
10.03.2011
Sorry about that Chilly, i'm new to this community thing and i thought i had only posted it up twice, with the second post having more information.I'm not sure how to remove old posts.
Nick Ross
10.03.2011
You REALLY posted this 3 times?

http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=26231

http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=25860

http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=26256

WTF bro? And Mods.
Nick Ross
10.03.2011
You REALLY posted this 3 times?

http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=26231

http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=25860

http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=26256

WTF bro? And Mods.
Nick Ross
10.03.2011
Originally Posted by djeddiegroovez
Hello, this is a 2 part question:

I know Traktor recommends having your music on an internal drive but my internal drive does not have the space for my entire music collection so i keep all my music on an external drive.
The issue is that Traktor does not pick up the BPM's on an external drive.I scanned a folder with 20 songs on the external and saw Traktor scanning but at the end BPM's showed 0.000.I then copied the folder to my laptop,scanned for BPM's and it worked!
Can anyone tell me why this doesnt work on an external drive? It's a USB powered drive.Would I have to use a drive with AC power? Would i have to transfer a music folder into the internal drive,scan it successfully for BPM's and the transfer it back to my external? Seems like alot of work!

My other question is how does Traktor determine the key of the song? I choose the option to see this and after scanning for BPM's sucessfully, on the internal drive of course, it still does not show the key.

Anyone having any of these issues?

I've read that i should change the default root directory and and music folder directory to my external drive.

Any help would be appreciated.

Lenovo G550(2958-XFU) NoteBook Intel Celeron 900(2.2GHz) 15.6" Wide XGA 2GB Memory DDR3 1066 160GB HDD/Traktor S4/Traktor Maschine
Have you asked this somewhere else? I feel like this is familiar and I may have answered it.
Originally Posted by smittten
What's got black and white stripes and can't climb trees?
Zebra?
Val Galaviz
10.03.2011
Hi Padi 04,

Thanks for your reply!
Val Galaviz
10.03.2011
Hi Padi 04,

I'm sorry but i searched and could not find a solution,all im looking for is for traktor to give me the BPM's on all my music on my external drive.I have tried 3 kinds of drives so it's not a maufacturer issue and have tried AC powered ans USB powered drives.Could you please point me in the right direction?Thank you!!
Len Lukawski
09.03.2011
What's got black and white stripes and can't climb trees?
Nedra Fresneda
09.03.2011
All these questions have been answered already. Please use the search tool
Val Galaviz
09.03.2011
Hello, this is a 2 part question:

I know Traktor recommends having your music on an internal drive but my internal drive does not have the space for my entire music collection so i keep all my music on an external drive.
The issue is that Traktor does not pick up the BPM's on an external drive.I scanned a folder with 20 songs on the external and saw Traktor scanning but at the end BPM's showed 0.000.I then copied the folder to my laptop,scanned for BPM's and it worked!
Can anyone tell me why this doesnt work on an external drive? It's a USB powered drive.Would I have to use a drive with AC power? Would i have to transfer a music folder into the internal drive,scan it successfully for BPM's and the transfer it back to my external? Seems like alot of work!

My other question is how does Traktor determine the key of the song? I choose the option to see this and after scanning for BPM's sucessfully, on the internal drive of course, it still does not show the key.

Anyone having any of these issues?

I've read that i should change the default root directory and and music folder directory to my external drive.

Any help would be appreciated.

Lenovo G550(2958-XFU) NoteBook Intel Celeron 900(2.2GHz) 15.6" Wide XGA 2GB Memory DDR3 1066 160GB HDD/Traktor S4/Traktor Maschine
Alla Bluemke
09.03.2011
the only thing I've noticed is the it detects the BPM incorrectly at times. At which I just use the manual beatmatch shift key thing.
Leeanna Ayla
02.03.2011
I've seen this problem before, but for the life of me I can't remember what the deal was. You could try and pick a handful of songs that don't seem to want to keep the BPM and move them to your harddrive. If they work there then it's something to do with your external drive.
Nedra Fresneda
02.03.2011
Originally Posted by djeddiegroovez
@photojojo, yes sir i am.I'm also curious about the "key" column.Shouldnt it show the BPM and the key of the song once it's analyzed/async?
Traktor doesn't analyze key, you need extra software for that.
Val Galaviz
02.03.2011
@photojojo, yes sir i am.I'm also curious about the "key" column.Shouldnt it show the BPM and the key of the song once it's analyzed/async?
Leeanna Ayla
02.03.2011
Just to clarify, you are right clicking the tracks and adding them to the collection?
Val Galaviz
02.03.2011
thx knaumov,checked that and all is well

@photojojo,thank you..i believe something is wrong with the install.i did as you suggested,went to preferences>file management> and added the option of "analyze new tracks on collection load/import.That option was not on by default.I then added a folder with 9 tracks and nothing,i then chose all tracks and chose the detect bpm(async) and that didnt work.i then loaded a track and of course it displayed the BPM but after hearing the entire song and stopping the track it didnt show the bpm either! theoretically once you load a song the program is supposed to "remember the bpm correct? this is what leads me to believe the installation is corrupt,well corrupt might be a harsh word, but somethings wrong!...any suggestions?

I'm a newbie to this community thing(but a dj for a long time) so i apologize if this reply seems out of the norm
Thank you!!
Francina Decosse
02.03.2011
hmmm, just a idea - check file modes (read only), permissions and ownership.
Leeanna Ayla
02.03.2011
You can right click on a group of songs and select detect BPM. There's also on option to analyze tracks on collection load/import. That'll do new songs you add to the collection. Are you adding the songs to Traktor collection? Doing so doesn't duplicate teh songs it just tells Traktor where they are.

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