2 sample decks VS 4 track decks

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2 sample decks VS 4 track decks
Posted on: 23.03.2011 by Columbus Fabbo
Hey everyone, I've been reading around the S4 community and haven't found a discussion on this particular topic, so thought I'd post it up.

When I first got into the S4 software I immediately started dropping loops and loading 'em up into sample decks like a kid tearing open his christmas presents. However, now that I am using it more and more, I am starting to believe that 4 track decks might be a little more effective at what I'm doing. Typically, I do backyard parties and house parties so my set lists are always spontaneous and vary depending on the people there. I feel like sample decks would be much more effective when the set list is pre-determined and rehearsed, so that you can have exactly which loops you want to throw down cued up and ready to go. I am also experimenting with 3 track decks and 1 sample deck, using the sample deck for one shots and DJ drop names etc. (backyard parties love that reggaeton horn sample!)

My question and topic of discussion is this: Which configuration (4 track decks or 2 track/2 sample decks) do you prefer and what are you doing with each configuration?

Side note: Anyone else wish the Sample buttons would retrigger rather than mute/unmute?
Bethel Himmelein
27.03.2011
Originally Posted by photojojo
What I wanted to say is that there is no official annoucement that key lock for sample slots is a feature in the TP2 version beeing released on April 1
Leeanna Ayla
27.03.2011
Originally Posted by DennisHuiberts
I don't believe your CPU is going to like key lock on every sample...
That's what I initially thought as well, but Thomas@NI siad it would be coming in a future free update on page three here http://www.native-instruments.com/fo...d.php?t=121890

Maybe just not this free update.
Leeanna Ayla
27.03.2011
Originally Posted by RainerHaselier
I wouldn't trust this information mate.


Rainer
Bethel Himmelein
27.03.2011
Originally Posted by iamscenic
Yea I've read in a couple other posts that TP2 is including key lock in sample decks.
I wouldn't trust this information mate.


Rainer
Columbus Fabbo
23.03.2011
Hey everyone, I've been reading around the S4 community and haven't found a discussion on this particular topic, so thought I'd post it up.

When I first got into the S4 software I immediately started dropping loops and loading 'em up into sample decks like a kid tearing open his christmas presents. However, now that I am using it more and more, I am starting to believe that 4 track decks might be a little more effective at what I'm doing. Typically, I do backyard parties and house parties so my set lists are always spontaneous and vary depending on the people there. I feel like sample decks would be much more effective when the set list is pre-determined and rehearsed, so that you can have exactly which loops you want to throw down cued up and ready to go. I am also experimenting with 3 track decks and 1 sample deck, using the sample deck for one shots and DJ drop names etc. (backyard parties love that reggaeton horn sample!)

My question and topic of discussion is this: Which configuration (4 track decks or 2 track/2 sample decks) do you prefer and what are you doing with each configuration?

Side note: Anyone else wish the Sample buttons would retrigger rather than mute/unmute?
Bethel Himmelein
27.03.2011
Originally Posted by photojojo
What I wanted to say is that there is no official annoucement that key lock for sample slots is a feature in the TP2 version beeing released on April 1
Leeanna Ayla
27.03.2011
Originally Posted by DennisHuiberts
I don't believe your CPU is going to like key lock on every sample...
That's what I initially thought as well, but Thomas@NI siad it would be coming in a future free update on page three here http://www.native-instruments.com/fo...d.php?t=121890

Maybe just not this free update.
Neal Rayome
27.03.2011
I don't believe your CPU is going to like key lock on every sample...
Leeanna Ayla
27.03.2011
Originally Posted by RainerHaselier
I wouldn't trust this information mate.


Rainer
Bethel Himmelein
27.03.2011
Originally Posted by iamscenic
Yea I've read in a couple other posts that TP2 is including key lock in sample decks.
I wouldn't trust this information mate.


Rainer
Mariano Godina
24.03.2011
Thats great that they are.
Columbus Fabbo
24.03.2011
Yea I've read in a couple other posts that TP2 is including key lock in sample decks. This is actually the problem that first pushed me to working with 4 track decks instead of sample decks. Stoked to hear it's getting fixed.

I'm also finding it a little weird working with more than 4 hot cues. I know that the sample buttons can become hot cues 5-8 but that disables immediate access to the sample decks themselves until you manually switch to Deck C or D.
I guess I just need a MIDI Fighter, eh?
Mariano Godina
23.03.2011
I'm with Van on that, totally agree. If i was pushed i would say 3 track decks and 1 sample deck. 4 sample slots is still a lot.
I forgot to check this, but is the upgrade to TP2 going to include key lock on sample decks? Major fail not having that key lock. Nothing worse than dropping in a sample from a playing track only to hear it sound different when you're in the middle of a mix.
Charline Dye
23.03.2011
What ever you prefer is what works. I change this around all the time, depending on what I'm trying to accomplish.

I also mapped some buttons on my xtra controller to change deck D from a sample deck to live input to track deck, so I can change it on the fly.

With TPro2 you will soon be able to change all 4 decks to sample decks also.

I prefer 3 track decks and 1 sample deck at the moment, because the lack of key lock on the sample decks limits what I can do with them.
Leeanna Ayla
23.03.2011
I'll switch between three track decks and one sample two track decks and two sample decks. I've just started getting comfortable using more than two or three sample decks at a time.
Roy Houn
23.03.2011
yeah i thin i would prefer them to just stop and restart when you hit the button so u know it drops bang on what u expect it to without having to change the deck focus to c or d and hittin the cue button..

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