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How's the Windows Client Doing?
Posted on: 02.06.2011 by Arvilla Kling
About 6 months ago, I traded in my Hercules RMX for an S4, and was so excited. I hooked it all up, started playing, it was beautiful! ...for about 30 seconds, then it stopped. Just jerked, stopped the music for about a second or so, then continued where it left off. And this repeated every 30 seconds or so. The client just completely froze on a regular basis. I also noticed that as it kept playing, the audio quality was getting proggressivly worse.

I tried everything, then google'd around to find that the Windows client was indeed glitchy and making popping sounds, ect.

Has this been resolved? Is everything better? I want an S4!!!
Dorcas Bassignani
02.06.2011
Originally Posted by Rhysk
Yeah, I returned to GC the next day. I'm looking to get a new one from DJTT here shortly

I fiddled a bit with the latency, ect, but the general impression that I got from my (admittedly only hour long) google'ing was that this was a common bug, and that no fix was in sight, so I got out of dodge while I could and returned it.
odd.. cos the alot of the things that caused issues were in TP1, and S4 was basically TP2 beta and carried some of the bits to solve problems...

should be fine now though as TP2 has gone a bit further beyond what S4 had
Arvilla Kling
02.06.2011
About 6 months ago, I traded in my Hercules RMX for an S4, and was so excited. I hooked it all up, started playing, it was beautiful! ...for about 30 seconds, then it stopped. Just jerked, stopped the music for about a second or so, then continued where it left off. And this repeated every 30 seconds or so. The client just completely froze on a regular basis. I also noticed that as it kept playing, the audio quality was getting proggressivly worse.

I tried everything, then google'd around to find that the Windows client was indeed glitchy and making popping sounds, ect.

Has this been resolved? Is everything better? I want an S4!!!
Lin Danek
04.06.2011
@ Rhysk - Smitten's sticky on this community is invaluable - he deserves a medal. Use it - it will save you HOURS of anguish and fortunes in tranquilizers.


@ MisterMoleyMole - well said - I totally concur.
Len Lukawski
03.06.2011
I could not have said it better myself.

I am still consistently stunned that people are prepared (and financially able) to dump a perfectly good Windows laptop and rush out an buy a Macbook over these issues. I am also sick to the back teeth of the "NI can't/don't/won't" BS that is perpetuated by individuals who patently have no clue.

I use a tri-boot machine with each boot running Win7. One for day-to-day, one for music/gfx production and one dedicated to Traktor. Each boot is optimized for the task at hand. One of the most common issues that people run into is the that fact they want their machine to do everything, school/work stuff, web, gaming, whatever. Trying to accomplish all those things means installing a large number of apps and drivers which compete for resources and often conflict with each other. Separating out the boots means you only install what's needed to the purpose.

Unfortunately people hear "dual-boot" and run for the hills because they believe it's out of their skill-set but it's incredibly simple. It used to be a little more tricky back in the day but these days its an extra 5 five minutes telling Windows how to divide up the disk and the time taken to repeat the install process.

If you are in the market for a new machine, have only very basic PC skills and are going to use your next machine primarily for A/V - buy a Mac. You won't have to put the work in and the machine will work great for you. If however, you have a Windows machine that is in spec, have a couple of hours to spare, can read and follow directions - stick with it. You'll save a fortune!

Anyway, must go. We found a leaky tap in the bathroom so we are moving house.
Doug Bieling
03.06.2011
People are far to quick to blame windows for problems when most of the time it's some driver issue with some fancy feature a laptop has had added .... Just strip it back to bare essentials ... Dual boot or xp hardware profiles... I've got a dell latitude, You know the dell laptops that everyone seems to believe you just can't run traktor on due to latency spikes .... Not on my watch! It runs fine apart from with the new vci mapping that's just doing far to much with on single button presses. That appears to be a fault with pro though as it's been ironed out in pro 2 apparently.

Basically if your not willing to put in some hard graft reading and tweaking you need to throw a bit more cash down and get yourself a mac but if you can spare time and effort then a windows pc with a half decent spec will do you well and cost quite a bit less.

Happy s4 buying!
Len Lukawski
04.06.2011
I have managed to get it to run flawlessly on multiple Windows based hardware/software configurations. At most it should take an hour or so if you need to really tweak your computer.
Lin Danek
03.06.2011
Asus N61J (Win7 64bit) - 'tweaked' as laid out in the NI community . I have not had a SINGLE issue. Even using USB3.0 port (DJTT USB cable). Glitch free zone.
Arvilla Kling
02.06.2011
Alright, sounds good, now lets get that S4!!!....in 3 weeks when I get paid...
Derek Feast
02.06.2011
As I've said in another thread or two, I had this exact same problem-- 2-3 second drops every 30-60 seconds. In TP2 I would see a CPU spike at that exact moment.

My issue was fixed by uninstalling Intel Storage Matrix drivers and Synaptics Touchpad drivers. With both of those gone (and no loss of functionality in the laptop) all my audio dropouts stopped with buffers set to 192. I could probably drop to 128 if I didn't use DVS and the occasional jogwheel scratch.
Dorcas Bassignani
02.06.2011
Originally Posted by Rhysk
Yeah, I returned to GC the next day. I'm looking to get a new one from DJTT here shortly

I fiddled a bit with the latency, ect, but the general impression that I got from my (admittedly only hour long) google'ing was that this was a common bug, and that no fix was in sight, so I got out of dodge while I could and returned it.
odd.. cos the alot of the things that caused issues were in TP1, and S4 was basically TP2 beta and carried some of the bits to solve problems...

should be fine now though as TP2 has gone a bit further beyond what S4 had
Arvilla Kling
02.06.2011
Yeah, I returned to GC the next day. I'm looking to get a new one from DJTT here shortly

I fiddled a bit with the latency, ect, but the general impression that I got from my (admittedly only hour long) google'ing was that this was a common bug, and that no fix was in sight, so I got out of dodge while I could and returned it.
Leeanna Ayla
02.06.2011
Out of the box you need to do some tweaks to get everything working correctly. Handling all of the audio stuff is frankly not something most computers are geared towards. I believe most are ready made made for internet and gaming so thats why you see so much advertising put into graphics processors
Dorcas Bassignani
02.06.2011
in fact this may help; http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=31157

sort of...
Dorcas Bassignani
02.06.2011
yeah, works fine... and should've then...

did you try tweaking latency and usual stuff?

you got rid of s4?

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