4-band EQ with TPro 2

4-band EQ with TPro 2
Posted on: 04.04.2011 by Larhonda Veuleman
Hi guys,

Now the 4-band EQ is available in TPro 2, has anyone succeeded in changing the mappings so we can use it neatly?

I'd like to move my filter knobs to control the low band, and use FX units for Xone 92 filters.

Cheers,
-W
Rosina Steinkuehler
09.06.2011
Originally Posted by djdunkle
I asked NI about the User mapping implementation -- it is clearly different than the Default. Here's the response:


"The default and user mapping share the same signaling, but the default mapping uses an additional layer (called Device I/O) for more complex mechanisms, such as driving the loop size LED
Rosina Steinkuehler
09.06.2011
Originally Posted by djdunkle
I asked NI about the User mapping implementation -- it is clearly different than the Default. Here's the response:


"The default and user mapping share the same signaling, but the default mapping uses an additional layer (called Device I/O) for more complex mechanisms, such as driving the loop size LED
Rosina Steinkuehler
09.06.2011
Originally Posted by djdunkle
I asked NI about the User mapping implementation -- it is clearly different than the Default. Here's the response:


"The default and user mapping share the same signaling, but the default mapping uses an additional layer (called Device I/O) for more complex mechanisms, such as driving the loop size LED
Rosina Steinkuehler
09.06.2011
Originally Posted by djdunkle
I asked NI about the User mapping implementation -- it is clearly different than the Default. Here's the response:


"The default and user mapping share the same signaling, but the default mapping uses an additional layer (called Device I/O) for more complex mechanisms, such as driving the loop size LED
Rosina Steinkuehler
09.06.2011
Originally Posted by djdunkle
I asked NI about the User mapping implementation -- it is clearly different than the Default. Here's the response:


"The default and user mapping share the same signaling, but the default mapping uses an additional layer (called Device I/O) for more complex mechanisms, such as driving the loop size LED
Rosina Steinkuehler
09.06.2011
Originally Posted by djdunkle
I asked NI about the User mapping implementation -- it is clearly different than the Default. Here's the response:


"The default and user mapping share the same signaling, but the default mapping uses an additional layer (called Device I/O) for more complex mechanisms, such as driving the loop size LED
Rosina Steinkuehler
09.06.2011
Originally Posted by djdunkle
I asked NI about the User mapping implementation -- it is clearly different than the Default. Here's the response:


"The default and user mapping share the same signaling, but the default mapping uses an additional layer (called Device I/O) for more complex mechanisms, such as driving the loop size LED
Rosina Steinkuehler
09.06.2011
Originally Posted by djdunkle
I asked NI about the User mapping implementation -- it is clearly different than the Default. Here's the response:


"The default and user mapping share the same signaling, but the default mapping uses an additional layer (called Device I/O) for more complex mechanisms, such as driving the loop size LED
Rosina Steinkuehler
09.06.2011
Originally Posted by djdunkle
I asked NI about the User mapping implementation -- it is clearly different than the Default. Here's the response:


"The default and user mapping share the same signaling, but the default mapping uses an additional layer (called Device I/O) for more complex mechanisms, such as driving the loop size LED
Rosina Steinkuehler
09.06.2011
Originally Posted by djdunkle
I asked NI about the User mapping implementation -- it is clearly different than the Default. Here's the response:


"The default and user mapping share the same signaling, but the default mapping uses an additional layer (called Device I/O) for more complex mechanisms, such as driving the loop size LED
Ming Peerman
09.06.2011
I asked NI about the User mapping implementation -- it is clearly different than the Default. Here's the response:


"The default and user mapping share the same signaling, but the default mapping uses an additional layer (called Device I/O) for more complex mechanisms, such as driving the loop size LED
Ming Peerman
12.06.2011
Originally Posted by GeekGod
I might have found an issue with the 4 band mapping.

Stop both decks. On deck B set a 1/32 loop.

When I hit play on my X1 (deck B) both decks start playing and both are in a 1/32 loop?

Meanwhile I cannot stop deck A at all. Stopping deck B takes deck A out of the 1/32 loop and starts to play as deck B is stopped. :eek:

It's not a big deal for me really since I very rarely use Loops but I thought that I would let you know about it.
I'm not sure whether this issue would have something to do with my published S4 mapping, when used on an X1. There is a deck copy feature in TP 2 - basically if the same track is in both decks, it will tend to stay in sync on both sides. While both tracks are playing you can then start to change one of them, such as by looping it while the other plays forwards.

Good luck! ~Meta
Rosina Steinkuehler
09.06.2011
Originally Posted by djdunkle
I asked NI about the User mapping implementation -- it is clearly different than the Default. Here's the response:


"The default and user mapping share the same signaling, but the default mapping uses an additional layer (called Device I/O) for more complex mechanisms, such as driving the loop size LED
Ming Peerman
09.06.2011
I asked NI about the User mapping implementation -- it is clearly different than the Default. Here's the response:


"The default and user mapping share the same signaling, but the default mapping uses an additional layer (called Device I/O) for more complex mechanisms, such as driving the loop size LED
Ming Peerman
08.06.2011
Originally Posted by djdunkle
I have a good mapping posted at:

http://www.traktorbible.com/freaks/m...ew.aspx?id=192

I hope it works for you!
BTW this contains 3 and 4-band mappings for the S4

.
Addie Engbrecht
23.05.2011
Originally Posted by photojojo
I switched to the xone eq yesterday and made the S4 mid hi and lo in the xone mids. I did a four hour set today and didn't have any problems. What conflicts are you guys getting?
Yea that can be done. Thats what I first suggested, but I had the idea of combining the mid hi and hi on the hi knob instead. The conflict is when you do that the mid hi gets reset by the mid knob on the s4 when you turn it cause the default s4 mapping has the mid hi controlled by the mid knob on the s4. So i'll bring up the HI and mid HI with the s4 HI knob and as soon as you touch the mid knob on the s4 to control the mid lo the mid hi is changed with it. seems mad confusing.....let me know if you get what i'm saying
Phylis Casablanca
23.05.2011
Originally Posted by manchild
any adjustments like that I have a user mapping to go alongside the default mapping since they dont conflict. Litterally add in Kontrol s4 mapping (user) go to user mapping then add in mixer/eq/whatever eq to whatever knob you want to use

I'm having some conflict mapping this.

Basically what I want is

S4 Hi = Xone Hi + Mid Hi

S4 Mid = Xone Mid Lo

S4 Lo = Xone Lo

By Default the S4 Mid is mapped to Xone Mid Hi and the Mid Lo is not mapped at all. When I map the S4 Lo knob to the Xone Mid Lo knob it also affects the Xone Mid Hi

Would you pls be able to Explain or send me the TSI so I can have the Xone EQ mapped to the S4 without conflict.

Thanks and Much Appreciated.
Judi Sissel
22.05.2011
Originally Posted by manchild
Thanks. Try combining the hi and mid-hi together on the single Hi knob too. I've been running like this lately and like it better so far. Mid-hi and HI seems to catch everything I'm looking to boost when I want to raise the volume of the Highs and vocals in a track without getting too much mid's. Mid-lo's I keep on the Mid knob and it seems to catch some suttle basslines and deeper voices, and I've been keeping low on the low knob like before.
Great stuff manchild... Thanks!
Rosina Steinkuehler
13.06.2011
Not really sure what is causing it - I had diff tracks in both A and B.

Anyhoo, it's not a big deal. I absolutely love your mapping and finished my recent dnb set using it and the Xone mixer... I am a happy camper!
Ming Peerman
12.06.2011
Originally Posted by GeekGod
I might have found an issue with the 4 band mapping.

Stop both decks. On deck B set a 1/32 loop.

When I hit play on my X1 (deck B) both decks start playing and both are in a 1/32 loop?

Meanwhile I cannot stop deck A at all. Stopping deck B takes deck A out of the 1/32 loop and starts to play as deck B is stopped. :eek:

It's not a big deal for me really since I very rarely use Loops but I thought that I would let you know about it.
I'm not sure whether this issue would have something to do with my published S4 mapping, when used on an X1. There is a deck copy feature in TP 2 - basically if the same track is in both decks, it will tend to stay in sync on both sides. While both tracks are playing you can then start to change one of them, such as by looping it while the other plays forwards.

Good luck! ~Meta
Rosina Steinkuehler
09.06.2011
Originally Posted by djdunkle
I asked NI about the User mapping implementation -- it is clearly different than the Default. Here's the response:


"The default and user mapping share the same signaling, but the default mapping uses an additional layer (called Device I/O) for more complex mechanisms, such as driving the loop size LED
Ming Peerman
09.06.2011
I asked NI about the User mapping implementation -- it is clearly different than the Default. Here's the response:


"The default and user mapping share the same signaling, but the default mapping uses an additional layer (called Device I/O) for more complex mechanisms, such as driving the loop size LED
Rosina Steinkuehler
09.06.2011
I might have found an issue with the 4 band mapping.

Stop both decks. On deck B set a 1/32 loop.

When I hit play on my X1 (deck B) both decks start playing and both are in a 1/32 loop?

Meanwhile I cannot stop deck A at all. Stopping deck B takes deck A out of the 1/32 loop and starts to play as deck B is stopped. :eek:

It's not a big deal for me really since I very rarely use Loops but I thought that I would let you know about it.
Ming Peerman
08.06.2011
Originally Posted by djdunkle
I have a good mapping posted at:

http://www.traktorbible.com/freaks/m...ew.aspx?id=192

I hope it works for you!
BTW this contains 3 and 4-band mappings for the S4

.
Ming Peerman
08.06.2011
I have a good mapping posted at:

http://www.traktorbible.com/freaks/m...ew.aspx?id=192

I hope it works for you!
Rosina Steinkuehler
08.06.2011
This mapping was just updated today. http://www.traktorbible.com/freaks/m...ew.aspx?id=192

Installed and working perfectly here.... Hope this helps anyone that is looking to use all 4 knobs/xone mixer

PS: use the big fat import button. It will clear out any existing mappings so be sure to back them up prior to import (using edit -> export for each area). Then reimport using add -> import each missing area such as midi fighter, etc (if you have them).
Addie Engbrecht
23.05.2011
Originally Posted by photojojo
I switched to the xone eq yesterday and made the S4 mid hi and lo in the xone mids. I did a four hour set today and didn't have any problems. What conflicts are you guys getting?
Yea that can be done. Thats what I first suggested, but I had the idea of combining the mid hi and hi on the hi knob instead. The conflict is when you do that the mid hi gets reset by the mid knob on the s4 when you turn it cause the default s4 mapping has the mid hi controlled by the mid knob on the s4. So i'll bring up the HI and mid HI with the s4 HI knob and as soon as you touch the mid knob on the s4 to control the mid lo the mid hi is changed with it. seems mad confusing.....let me know if you get what i'm saying
Leeanna Ayla
23.05.2011
I switched to the xone eq yesterday and made the S4 mid hi and lo in the xone mids. I did a four hour set today and didn't have any problems. What conflicts are you guys getting?
Addie Engbrecht
23.05.2011
Unfortunately you are right. I ended up changing back to my orignal 4-band set-up because of it ( High - s4 HI, mid HI and Mid Lo - s4 mid, Low - s4 Low). Unless you want to delete the default mapping and re-map the whole controller in MIDI mode.
Phylis Casablanca
23.05.2011
Originally Posted by manchild
any adjustments like that I have a user mapping to go alongside the default mapping since they dont conflict. Litterally add in Kontrol s4 mapping (user) go to user mapping then add in mixer/eq/whatever eq to whatever knob you want to use

I'm having some conflict mapping this.

Basically what I want is

S4 Hi = Xone Hi + Mid Hi

S4 Mid = Xone Mid Lo

S4 Lo = Xone Lo

By Default the S4 Mid is mapped to Xone Mid Hi and the Mid Lo is not mapped at all. When I map the S4 Lo knob to the Xone Mid Lo knob it also affects the Xone Mid Hi

Would you pls be able to Explain or send me the TSI so I can have the Xone EQ mapped to the S4 without conflict.

Thanks and Much Appreciated.
Judi Sissel
22.05.2011
Originally Posted by manchild
Thanks. Try combining the hi and mid-hi together on the single Hi knob too. I've been running like this lately and like it better so far. Mid-hi and HI seems to catch everything I'm looking to boost when I want to raise the volume of the Highs and vocals in a track without getting too much mid's. Mid-lo's I keep on the Mid knob and it seems to catch some suttle basslines and deeper voices, and I've been keeping low on the low knob like before.
Great stuff manchild... Thanks!
Phylis Casablanca
22.05.2011
Originally Posted by manchild
any adjustments like that I have a user mapping to go alongside the default mapping since they dont conflict. Litterally add in Kontrol s4 mapping (user) go to user mapping then add in mixer/eq/whatever eq to whatever knob you want to use

When implementing something like this. Is it still in NHL mode ?

Has anyone tried this for Xone EQ on the S4
https://traktorbible.com/freaks/mappingview.aspx?id=192
Addie Engbrecht
13.04.2011
any adjustments like that I have a user mapping to go alongside the default mapping since they dont conflict. Litterally add in Kontrol s4 mapping (user) go to user mapping then add in mixer/eq/whatever eq to whatever knob you want to use
Julissa Serrone
13.04.2011
are you doing this in native mode? Did you select the Xone EQ in preferences and then add a user mapping? Sounds like a great idea.
Addie Engbrecht
13.04.2011
Originally Posted by tomflynn
I believe that's a smart idea manchild about mapping mid high and mid low to the same knob, i might give that a whirl and see what it's like.
Failing that i was believeing the same - using the filter knob as the low in 4 band mode.
However, i don't want to take up an fx slot just for a filter.
I'll have to have a good play and believe about it.
Thanks. Try combining the hi and mid-hi together on the single Hi knob too. I've been running like this lately and like it better so far. Mid-hi and HI seems to catch everything I'm looking to boost when I want to raise the volume of the Highs and vocals in a track without getting too much mid's. Mid-lo's I keep on the Mid knob and it seems to catch some suttle basslines and deeper voices, and I've been keeping low on the low knob like before.
Mariano Godina
13.04.2011
I believe that's a smart idea manchild about mapping mid high and mid low to the same knob, i might give that a whirl and see what it's like.
Failing that i was believeing the same - using the filter knob as the low in 4 band mode.
However, i don't want to take up an fx slot just for a filter.
I'll have to have a good play and believe about it.
Katherin Voigts
08.04.2011
Originally Posted by willrjmarshall
Hi guys,

Now the 4-band EQ is available in TPro 2, has anyone succeeded in changing the mappings so we can use it neatly?

I'd like to move my filter knobs to control the low band, and use FX units for Xone 92 filters.

Cheers,
-W
Yeah after the same thing myself. Really thought NI would just made it switch that way when you selected the EQ mode
Gussie Septon
05.04.2011
Is it possible to set the mid low and mid high buttons with the Shift button? Adjust mid low with Shift + Low and adjust mid high with Shift + Mid or Shift + High?
Melia Balvaneda
05.04.2011
Originally Posted by manchild
I liked using the 4 band Eq mostly because I could take away bass from a song especially during transitions without losing mids and vocals. So I just have both mid-hi and mid-lo mapped to the same mid knob on the s4 controller as I can go without the use of controlling them indapendantly and rather not sacrifice any other knob.
wow thats a really smart idea! i like it
Addie Engbrecht
04.04.2011
I liked using the 4 band Eq mostly because I could take away bass from a song especially during transitions without losing mids and vocals. So I just have both mid-hi and mid-lo mapped to the same mid knob on the s4 controller as I can go without the use of controlling them indapendantly and rather not sacrifice any other knob.

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