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Traktor S4 Hook up to external mixer issues
Posted on: 31.05.2012 by Jodi Garff
I have contacted Native Instruments but they still do not know what the problem is.

Hook up to power speakers: When using the S4 with direct powered speakers, my S4 is well.

However; if I need to hook up to an external mixer for unpowered speakers and power speakers, there becomes a real problem.
>


Sometimes there are no sound Or the song will play in the mix however; when I hit the CUE button on my
headphones, the song in CUE automatically play through the main speakers which it plays LIVE in the mix.

This has happen to me 5 times since ownership.

>hooking to an external mixer. berhinger mixer<
comment from Native Support:
"If the S4 is outputting sound directly to your monitor speakers, but not through
an external mixer it must be some setting in the mixer that is causing the
problem. Please contact behringer for further assistance.
By process of elimination and figuring out which devices in the audio path are
working and which are not we can narrow down the list of possible problems. If
the S4 is working correctly as designed, by itself then the problem cannot be the
S4. When another unit is added to the signal path, and a problem arises then it
must be the added unit."



I have tried different configurations with the output for sound and non work (cables and software).
>
on this Past Sunday, May 27, I got a lot of feedback from the RCAs. Even I used the 1 & 2 slots for 1/4 inch plugs to the external mixer and it did not work.


Using an external mixer

deck a = song is playing

Deck B = try to cue the mix in, hit cue button to listen in headphones however deck B plays LIVE/on air with deck A at simultaneously with the volume down and not live/on air.
output:Master left/ master right



my last resort was to play only off my laptop. I did not pay $900 USD for
playing music off my laptop.

> is this a Hardware and software issue?
Jodi Garff
06.06.2012		I understand. I guess its a setback...

what other controllers doesnt have this issue?

It sucks when you have a gig and system doesnt work or not compatible with the external mixer.

what suggestions do you have for set up for gigs like these issues?
BTW i have a small mixer (non powered).

Thanks manchild for you help!

Originally Posted by manchild
Thats your problem. The S4's soundacrd was not designed to do that.
Addie Engbrecht
06.06.2012
Originally Posted by Saunton
Using all different channels on a Euro Pro/Berhinger, it didnt work.
Thats your problem. The S4's soundacrd was not designed to do that.
Jodi Garff
07.06.2012		I read manchild comments.
however; Using all different channels on a Euro Pro/Berhinger, it didnt work.

I used the S4 for mixing.

I guess no one has these problems are not talking about it....

What are you suggestions?

Originally Posted by rgtb
re-read what manchild said. he is right.

EDIT: you almost deserve the answer "RTFM!" to your question.
Jodi Garff
06.06.2012		I have tried this before but didnt work on some external mixers.
Or on external mixer it would play but when cue-ing up the next song/track in the head phones, the track/song would play out live on the speaker.
Note: Traktor (Original version that came with the S4, it works fine)
Traktor 2 is now I am having the issues.

Can you send a screen shot of your settings? Thanks!

Originally Posted by manchild
Do not change any settings in Traktor if you are using the S4's soundcard. Doesnt matter if your hooking into an external mixer then into an amp or directly from the S4 to powered speakers. Traktor should be in "Internal Mixing" mode at all times when using the S4as far as your concerned. If you are plugging into an external mixer, you will be plugging into 1 channel on that mixer. If you want to adjust volume/gain/EQ on the MAIN mix, you can do so on that 1 channel on that external mixer if you really feel the need to. All Cue'ing, indvidual deck EQ'ing/volume/gains etc. can only be done thru the S4, not the extra mixer. Hope this helps
Jodi Garff
05.06.2012		hooking to a power speakers works fine for me.

I have a non power speaker, full range Fender and a Mackie 450 which is powered. When I used a yamaha emx512sc mixer it works find.

Now when I hook up or some Beheringer mixer, there becomes an issue. Sometimes not sound.
or there will be sound and when I cue a track in my headphones it comes out live on the main speakers.

Anyone else having this problem?

Please help!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by ndiLo
I haven't figured this out either, but if you are plugging into the mixer just to connect to a PA system, use internal mixing mode and just send the master. The S4 has all the controls you need right?
Jodi Garff
05.06.2012		Your issues is the samething I am having.

did you fix it? Anyone gonna help?

Originally Posted by ndiLo
So ur having this problem using traktors internal mixing mode? That's strange. I've had that problem w/the cue track playing over everything, but only in external mixing mode.
Jodi Garff
31.05.2012		I have contacted Native Instruments but they still do not know what the problem is.

Hook up to power speakers: When using the S4 with direct powered speakers, my S4 is well.

However; if I need to hook up to an external mixer for unpowered speakers and power speakers, there becomes a real problem.
>


Sometimes there are no sound Or the song will play in the mix however; when I hit the CUE button on my
headphones, the song in CUE automatically play through the main speakers which it plays LIVE in the mix.

This has happen to me 5 times since ownership.

>hooking to an external mixer. berhinger mixer<
comment from Native Support:
"If the S4 is outputting sound directly to your monitor speakers, but not through
an external mixer it must be some setting in the mixer that is causing the
problem. Please contact behringer for further assistance.
By process of elimination and figuring out which devices in the audio path are
working and which are not we can narrow down the list of possible problems. If
the S4 is working correctly as designed, by itself then the problem cannot be the
S4. When another unit is added to the signal path, and a problem arises then it
must be the added unit."



I have tried different configurations with the output for sound and non work (cables and software).
>
on this Past Sunday, May 27, I got a lot of feedback from the RCAs. Even I used the 1 & 2 slots for 1/4 inch plugs to the external mixer and it did not work.


Using an external mixer

deck a = song is playing

Deck B = try to cue the mix in, hit cue button to listen in headphones however deck B plays LIVE/on air with deck A at simultaneously with the volume down and not live/on air.
output:Master left/ master right



my last resort was to play only off my laptop. I did not pay $900 USD for
playing music off my laptop.

> is this a Hardware and software issue?
Jodi Garff
06.06.2012		I understand. I guess its a setback...

what other controllers doesnt have this issue?

It sucks when you have a gig and system doesnt work or not compatible with the external mixer.

what suggestions do you have for set up for gigs like these issues?
BTW i have a small mixer (non powered).

Thanks manchild for you help!

Originally Posted by manchild
Thats your problem. The S4's soundacrd was not designed to do that.
Addie Engbrecht
06.06.2012
Originally Posted by Saunton
Using all different channels on a Euro Pro/Berhinger, it didnt work.
Thats your problem. The S4's soundacrd was not designed to do that.
Jodi Garff
07.06.2012		I read manchild comments.
however; Using all different channels on a Euro Pro/Berhinger, it didnt work.

I used the S4 for mixing.

I guess no one has these problems are not talking about it....

What are you suggestions?

Originally Posted by rgtb
re-read what manchild said. he is right.

EDIT: you almost deserve the answer "RTFM!" to your question.
Jodi Garff
06.06.2012		I have tried this before but didnt work on some external mixers.
Or on external mixer it would play but when cue-ing up the next song/track in the head phones, the track/song would play out live on the speaker.
Note: Traktor (Original version that came with the S4, it works fine)
Traktor 2 is now I am having the issues.

Can you send a screen shot of your settings? Thanks!

Originally Posted by manchild
Do not change any settings in Traktor if you are using the S4's soundcard. Doesnt matter if your hooking into an external mixer then into an amp or directly from the S4 to powered speakers. Traktor should be in "Internal Mixing" mode at all times when using the S4as far as your concerned. If you are plugging into an external mixer, you will be plugging into 1 channel on that mixer. If you want to adjust volume/gain/EQ on the MAIN mix, you can do so on that 1 channel on that external mixer if you really feel the need to. All Cue'ing, indvidual deck EQ'ing/volume/gains etc. can only be done thru the S4, not the extra mixer. Hope this helps
Addie Engbrecht
05.06.2012		Do not change any settings in Traktor if you are using the S4's soundcard. Doesnt matter if your hooking into an external mixer then into an amp or directly from the S4 to powered speakers. Traktor should be in "Internal Mixing" mode at all times when using the S4as far as your concerned. If you are plugging into an external mixer, you will be plugging into 1 channel on that mixer. If you want to adjust volume/gain/EQ on the MAIN mix, you can do so on that 1 channel on that external mixer if you really feel the need to. All Cue'ing, indvidual deck EQ'ing/volume/gains etc. can only be done thru the S4, not the extra mixer. Hope this helps
Jodi Garff
05.06.2012		hooking to a power speakers works fine for me.

I have a non power speaker, full range Fender and a Mackie 450 which is powered. When I used a yamaha emx512sc mixer it works find.

Now when I hook up or some Beheringer mixer, there becomes an issue. Sometimes not sound.
or there will be sound and when I cue a track in my headphones it comes out live on the main speakers.

Anyone else having this problem?

Please help!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by ndiLo
I haven't figured this out either, but if you are plugging into the mixer just to connect to a PA system, use internal mixing mode and just send the master. The S4 has all the controls you need right?
Nena Rowsey
05.06.2012		I haven't figured this out either, but if you are plugging into the mixer just to connect to a PA system, use internal mixing mode and just send the master. The S4 has all the controls you need right?
Jodi Garff
05.06.2012		Your issues is the samething I am having.

did you fix it? Anyone gonna help?

Originally Posted by ndiLo
So ur having this problem using traktors internal mixing mode? That's strange. I've had that problem w/the cue track playing over everything, but only in external mixing mode.
Nena Rowsey
05.06.2012		So ur having this problem using traktors internal mixing mode? That's strange. I've had that problem w/the cue track playing over everything, but only in external mixing mode.
Jodi Garff
04.06.2012		ok so no response. let me ask a simpler way.

as for the Output Routing when using speakers or external mixers:

Internal: is set for master right/master left

Do I need to set the External Mixer as well? currently nothing is assigned.

please Help!!!

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