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Who else hates the 2.5.1 timecode lead in "fix?'
Posted on: 05.08.2012 by Halley Wurzer
I can't stand how, when my needle gets to the end and it switches into temporary internal mode, I have to be careful not to drop the needle at the beginning of the record. I was playing a gig and accidentally dropped the needle to far out (used to doing this with 2.5) and the track jumped to before the beginning. I don't even know what the point of "lead in" is and why there doesn't seem to be an option to disable it. Obviously I use relative mode...
Halley Wurzer
05.08.2012
I can't stand how, when my needle gets to the end and it switches into temporary internal mode, I have to be careful not to drop the needle at the beginning of the record. I was playing a gig and accidentally dropped the needle to far out (used to doing this with 2.5) and the track jumped to before the beginning. I don't even know what the point of "lead in" is and why there doesn't seem to be an option to disable it. Obviously I use relative mode...
Halley Wurzer
06.08.2012
I just use hot cues on my x1... I need this "feature" gone, or to at least be a timecode option.
Marcie Lewie
06.08.2012
Finally, I got this feature back!! (yes, I did like using this to go back after checking my gains instead of reaching for my laptop)
Halley Wurzer
06.08.2012
Yup in 2.5.0 I could drop the needle anywhere including the lead in and it would not bring the track back to the lead in.
Delila Vandommelen
06.08.2012
What you described sounds like "switch to absolute on lead-in" which I understood was broken in 2.5 (didn't use that version), so I figured it got turned back on by the 2.5.1 update regardless.
I normally use this, so I went ahead and disabled it... and lo and behold it still restarted the track from the lead-in even without the absolute mode being enabled whatsoever.
Weird.

So I loaded up 2.1.2 which i'd been using till then, disabled "switch to absolute on lead-in" and guess what - it still behaves like that as well.

I thought it was maybe due to me having load markers at the beginning of every tune and having loading>"initially cue to load marker" but, no, that's not it either.
Tried a track with no hotcues, still happening.
Tried with both mk1 and mk2 records and it's still happening.

Makes me believe dropping in the lead-in always takes you back - period. It's just maybe more obvious if you're on mk2 records since the lead-in is larger on the 10min side.

From which version did you upgrade? I've been on the 2.X branch since the beginning so I can't remember if it worked as you expected on 1.2.7. I don't really feel it ever worked differently in TSP.

"Dropping needle into lead-in now again jumps to start of track"
Sounds like it was just broken in 2.5.0 ...
Dewey Melchi
06.08.2012
Simple solution, don't drop your needle anywhere near the lead-in.

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