Overkill? Dubfire @ Bobo Beach video

2 CD Players and a mixer using CD's = Rock The Dancefloor



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Same thing can be said about DJing as well

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It's a great idea when its done well... but otherwise...

Hmm....probably a noob question too, but, can what one sees in that video actually be considered "good"? I guess a better and more noob question would be, what is good about it? Yes, I am being totally honest here. I didn't see anything challenging in those 9+ minutes from my personal (amateur) DJ'ing perspective. What techniques are used that I missed and are special, cause I want to learn about those things. You know, those techniques, which are actually considered good amongst DJs and need mastery to do well and I seriously don't know what "good" is, especially when I watch a video like that or from the likes of Hawtin and Liebling and believe, "What is so special about that?" I don't want to put down their hard work at all. I must simply be missing something. Again, I am really being serious. What techniques used in this video are truly "good" and top class? What could I learn from it? Can someone point out some of the techniques in that video that are hard to do or something that needs mastering through tons of practice?

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I almost relate it to seeing a band play live vs listening to their Album. If they sound exactly the same as their album, I would be very disappointed. I want to see them jam out, play off of each other and just do something with a track live that didn't happen to get recorded that day.

If you wanna go listen to that track in its entirety, then save yourself a boat load of money and stay open and listen to it. But if you want to go have a new experience and see some of the best DJ/performers in the world and hear tunes in new and unique ways then get out of the house and go rock it out

But at the same flip side as I said if you hear a track you recognize and then it's being remixed or having it's components eg the groove, breakdown added to, is their a sense of disappointment for an audience at not hearing it in it's original format?
I'm getting too philosophical now.

I don't believe the production game will change that much any time soon. Sure there will be more sample packs made for people to use in this way but IMO it's nowhere near being the future.

If the day arrives where EDM production is reduced to just sound design and a sample pack format just for someone else to play with it I'd gladly move on to another type of music.

Mind you, I enjoy show show of the likes of the producers mentioned earlier in here so don't take me as a hater.

When guys like Dubfire, Hawtin and Chris Liebing play, they really aren't playing "tracks" per se, they are just taking parts from tracks along with loops they make on the spot and samples and are building solid underground grooves to keep you moving and dancing. They really aren't going to play the "hands in the air" type of music to begin with anyway, the tracks they play are straight up tools and in order to get the most out of them you really need to be able to work them live like that.

This is where DJing is going to be in the future me believes. Instead of producers spending hours working and tweaking an arrangement, they are just going to create the loops and tools and leave it up the DJ to use them as they see fit.

This is where DJing is going to be in the future me believes. Instead of producers spending hours working and tweaking an arrangement, they are just going to create the loops and tools and leave it up the DJ to use them as they see fit.

"My point is at when does all of this technology and options take away some of the soul of the music? e.g someone comes to hear a set and favorite record comes on, hand in the air moment. And it's radically altered with the sample decks and Maschine? "

dj craze once mentioned that a big focus of his early djing was taking records that everyone knew and doing something different with them. imo thats a big part of what djing is about. granted the result is sometimes going to be messy (i know i've been there), but i believe a really technical dj is a great thing. ofcourse song selection and other things are just as, if not more important, than being technical. but i believe djing really becomes an art when the dj begins to alter (scratching, remixing, etc.) the records he/she plays live.