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Quest for Compatible USB hubs
Posted on: 10.12.2009 by Johnny Achziger
I have seen here on the community time to time. what usb hubs work with our gear as myself is also looking for one.

I have been emailing manufacturers to find out if their hubs do indeed have Multi TT (Transaction Translator), which is what we need due to the vestax and some other gear still in the usb 1.1 world... 99% of the manufacturers don't post this information in their spec sheets because 99% of the customers have no idea what a TT is

So far only one of the brands I have contacted has responded, i will edit and update as which ones I find out on....
I am still awating responses from Koutech, IoGear, and D-Link

Confirmed Multi TT Hubs
  • USB-1870 7-Port Cables Unlimited Avg Price $30.00
  • GUH274 4-Port IOGear Avg Price $15.00
  • UH-217C-US 7-Port LinXcel Avg Price $20.00 (looks like a cloned USB-1870)



Update 12-23-09 Belkin finally responded... here is a list of their brand Multi TT hubs.
  • F5U237 7 Port USB 2.0 Hub With Power adapter
  • F5U259 7 Port Economy USB 2.0 (discontinued)
  • F5U307 7-Port Plus Hub USB 2.0 With power adapter
  • F5U234 4 Port USB 2.0 Hub (self Powered)
  • F4U017 7 Port USB 2.0 Hub with power adapter




Brand: Rosewill
Dear Valued Customer,

Thank you for your patience as we get the update from our engineers.

All our hubs are using one TT chip because Multi-TT is used for USB 1.1 device to upper the transaction speed.

For USB 2.0 devices, the speed are the same no matter one TT chip usedor Multi TT chip. As MTT is much more expensive, we have no plan to produce USB hub withMTT support.

Thank you for your patience. Please let us know if you have any other questions or concerns.

Sincerely,
Sophia
Rosewill Support
Brand: Cables To Go

Tim,

Unfortunately, we do not offer a hub that will have multiple transaction translators. Our hubs will only have a single transaction translator. Please check with one of our channel partners who may offer a solution for you.


Thank you!
Cables To Go Technical Support
robert chanda
23.12.2009
Originally Posted by DeeEss
usb 3.0? WOW! Is firewire going to fade out and become unused? I thought firewire was more STABLE!?
Firewire has slightly lower round-trip latency than USB. So, in the case of recording through a microphone, processing the sound inside your computer and pumping it back out to the performer, Firewire is preferable. DJ apps almost never need to do roundtrips, they just send *out* music, so USB vs. Firewire in that application is not an issue. Either will do.
Johnny Achziger
23.12.2009
Just added Belkin's list to the first post... i finally got word back from them...

Tim



Originally Posted by lsmith
what I never understood is why NI, Vestax, Akai, Korg never bothered to release a USB hub. it would become the default USB hub for all musicians .. even if it would be overpriced.
although nice idea .. but to be honest. why did vestax akai, korg, ni release products with a usb1.1 port instead of a usb 2.0 port especially when the new USB 3.0 isn't to far off..
robert chanda
10.12.2009
Originally Posted by mmauve
maybe a thin metal plate can be gently drilled to the bottom of the case to give it more weight?
That would definitely help. Good call.
Lilliana Perris
22.08.2012


Just saw this vid...
Corey Ganer
22.08.2012
I am bringing it back up again as I am on the lookout for a USB Hub. I want one that is multi TT and self powered as they seem to be the best option. Do you know wether D-link's DUB H7 is a multi TT hub? Do you have any recomendations? Preferably, not so expensive ones?
Lilliana Perris
18.08.2010
Right....just seen this one....and they say it has multi TT....but its FUCKING cheap....so i dunno.

http://www.shopxtreme.com/USB-Cards/...duct_info.html

What you guys believe?
Armando Chrystal
25.01.2010
if you didnt notice there is a post by ean on the home page dealing with USB hubs
Anette Botek
25.01.2010
Thanks
Johnny Achziger
25.01.2010
Thought i'd bump this back to the top in light of the
recent post on the site to debunk all the usb mumbo jumbo....
Johnny Achziger
23.12.2009
firewire will never fade, its latency for audio and video are superior and the latest firewire hitting 800Mmbps. but USB 3.0 may change all that.


USB 3.0 (Superspeed USB) will have a theoretical bandwidth of 4.8Gbps (minus packet overhead), ability to provide a 900ma per device current limit. connectors will be different,but are planned to be backwards compatible

The new 3.0 Spec uses 4 pairs of wires instead of 2 pairs that's used in the current usb 2.0 & 1.0 spec.

Don't Expect to see usb 3.0 in the mainstream for at least another 1-2 years or so

Intel is bucking the new usb3.0 and wont support it till 2011 thay have something else they had in the works and calls it code name "Light Peak" it is an Optical cable running at 10Gbps with capabilities to reach 100Gbps in future revisions.

Their believeing is that "light peak" will be the answer to all high speed connectivity (Sata, USB, Firewire, SCSI, HDMI).
Josefina Morandi
23.12.2009
OH yeah I get it cool! Thanks!
robert chanda
23.12.2009
Originally Posted by DeeEss
usb 3.0? WOW! Is firewire going to fade out and become unused? I thought firewire was more STABLE!?
Firewire has slightly lower round-trip latency than USB. So, in the case of recording through a microphone, processing the sound inside your computer and pumping it back out to the performer, Firewire is preferable. DJ apps almost never need to do roundtrips, they just send *out* music, so USB vs. Firewire in that application is not an issue. Either will do.
Josefina Morandi
23.12.2009
usb 3.0? WOW! Is firewire going to fade out and become unused? I thought firewire was more STABLE!?
Johnny Achziger
23.12.2009
Just added Belkin's list to the first post... i finally got word back from them...

Tim



Originally Posted by lsmith
what I never understood is why NI, Vestax, Akai, Korg never bothered to release a USB hub. it would become the default USB hub for all musicians .. even if it would be overpriced.
although nice idea .. but to be honest. why did vestax akai, korg, ni release products with a usb1.1 port instead of a usb 2.0 port especially when the new USB 3.0 isn't to far off..
Leota Saniuk
17.12.2009
what i never understood is why NI, Vestax, Akai, Korg never bothered to release a USB hub. it would become the default USB hub for all musicians .. even if it would be overpriced.
Johnny Achziger
17.12.2009
Well I thought I would give it a little time before I updated this thread, but I have never gotten a response from IOGear, D-Link nor. Koutech

Which is a shame. I still am trying to get info on whats available.
robert chanda
10.12.2009
Originally Posted by mmauve
maybe a thin metal plate can be gently drilled to the bottom of the case to give it more weight?
That would definitely help. Good call.
Roselle Mcnaul
10.12.2009
Originally Posted by Fatlimey
That's the one I have and, just a note, it's plasticky as hell. About the size of a pack of cards and lighter than the USB cable it comes with. I'm seriously believeing of repackaging mine in a standard metal box. I also believe the USB slots are not great quality and I may replace them too, but as for performance? It does exactly what it says it does. You get 7 ports and everything runs at full speed.

http://www.hammondmfg.com/scpg.htm

- Fatlimey.
Aww weak, I was afraid that thing was gonna be cheap from the looks of it. Yeah looks like a project box might be needed to reinforce the thing, maybe a thin metal plate can be gently drilled to the bottom of the case to give it more weight?
robert chanda
10.12.2009
Originally Posted by mmauve
That's the one I have and, just a note, it's plasticky as hell. About the size of a pack of cards and lighter than the USB cable it comes with. I'm seriously believeing of repackaging mine in a standard metal box. I also believe the USB slots are not great quality and I may replace them too, but as for performance? It does exactly what it says it does. You get 7 ports and everything runs at full speed.

http://www.hammondmfg.com/scpg.htm

- Fatlimey.
Johnny Achziger
10.12.2009
A real good write up that puts a lot of things into Layman's terms can be found on the Toms Hardware Guide...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ology,677.html
Nick Ross
10.12.2009
Damn...I just got learned in somethin bruh!

Seriously, great post. I gotta read up on what this actually means (TT) and how it affects my setup.
Johnny Achziger
10.12.2009
Yea the cables unltd is in fact a multi TT, I have never seen it as any traditional brick and mortar store, only online and not many carry it.....

I am wanting to see whats all out there, someones in a bind and need one quick then a bounce over to a Staples, Fry's or Whatever.. I know the older Belkin TetraHub was but they don't make it anymore,,,
Roselle Mcnaul
10.12.2009
Found one here.
Michel Compoli
10.12.2009
good job timmy, keep us updated
Johnny Achziger
10.12.2009
yea but most of the spec sheets don't say exactly what chipset they are using... (Cypress, SMSC) etc... if they did it would make it so much easier...
Martha Klepper
10.12.2009
Isn't there some way to get access to product spec sheets with some digging? I'll ask my brother about that sometime... he's an electrical engineer and this is his bag.

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