DJ's Getting Kicked Off The Decks What's you guys opinion on this matter?
I live in Miami and I stopped attending these mega-VIP clubs about 3 years ago.
That being said, I would be smart enough to look at the crowd and know that a hipster set isn't going to fly at Mansion.
DJ Shadow from Twitter:
"Ironically it was drum and bass that broke the camel's back(!) Note to self...play more drum and bass!!! "
"Or maybe it was all the trap & juke that preceded it...I dunno. I'll get the set up on soundcloud soon so every1 can enjoy. Happy Holidays!"
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Shayne Kohtz
22.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by tombruton69
If I was in the crowd and the DJ I went there to see got kicked off I would be asking for my money back straight away. If not get a few mates together and smash the place up. PS I am english btw so its to be expected. my local club had to get rid of the smoke machines cuz bouncers kept getting beat up when they went off and the cameras couldnt see
I don't believe it is "to be expected". I live in Glasgow. Apparently the violent crime capital of the fucking universe or some such bullshit & I can't imagine that happening in any half decent club round here.
To be fair, there's no way a well known DJ (ie, someone that people have bought tickets specifically to hear) would ever get kicked off the decks here unless they were clearly wasted & completely train-wrecking mixes. They would never get booted for playing the wrong type of music. The promoters would be more than aware of who they are booking. They wouldn't book a trance DJ for a techno evening
etc, or a a guy like DJ Shadow for a pop-hungry crowd.
Edit - That open-format thing is pretty deceiving btw. I read that as "You can play anything" not "Keep it kind of poppy". |
Joetta Zhuk
20.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by KS2
Sarcasm?
Irony would be a better description I guess. |
Latina Samon
20.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by Hermes
Yes it is expected. Green Street Hooligan, the football factory, they are situated in Engeland for a reason.
Sarcasm? |
Joetta Zhuk
20.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by KS2
Well its not
Yes it is expected. Green Street Hooligan, the football factory, they are situated in Engeland for a reason. |
Latina Samon
20.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by tombruton69
PS I am english btw so its to be expected.
Well its not |
Werner Bile
20.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by Hermes
Reading this, I still can't figure out what caused the London Riots...
On topic: This is an American thing I guess. I can't imagine it happening in Europe, because our clubbing culture is very different. Only if the dj is drunk or really screwing up.
Even in America it's a pretty recent development, never used to be this way. |
Joetta Zhuk
20.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by tombruton69
If I was in the crowd and the DJ I went there to see got kicked off I would be asking for my money back straight away. If not get a few mates together and smash the place up. PS I am english btw so its to be expected. my local club had to get rid of the smoke machines cuz bouncers kept getting beat up when they went off and the cameras couldnt see
Reading this, I still can't figure out what caused the London Riots...
On topic: This is an American thing I guess. I can't imagine it happening in Europe, because our clubbing culture is very different. Only if the dj is drunk or really screwing up. |
Jerica Salava
20.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by Pearce161
Am I missing something in your meaning here? if its usually open format evening
to me that would suggest an eclectic crowd who are up for listening to lots of different stuff and therefore he should be able to play lots of different stuff without risking been booted
Open Format means multiple genres concentrating heavily on the Top 40 Charts. Disco, 80's, Hip-Hop, EDM, etc. The open format crowd is open-minded for genres, but they like to hear stuff they recognize. If you are a good DJ you can throw in some new stuff and make it work. It used to be called DJing.
Open Format does NOT mean beat juggling obscure drum and bass and getting kicked out the booth.
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Kelvin Ogdon
22.12.2012 | Promoter did NOT do his job. The club did what they had to do, but they're fuckin retarded for continually not selling their main event. They're paying for a headliner and advertising a normal evening
. At least that's what it comes off as. |
Carlee Pickard
21.12.2012 | http://djshadow.com/news/mansion-nig...logy-dj-shadow
As for shadow getting kicked off the decks. |
Shayne Kohtz
22.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by tombruton69
If I was in the crowd and the DJ I went there to see got kicked off I would be asking for my money back straight away. If not get a few mates together and smash the place up. PS I am english btw so its to be expected. my local club had to get rid of the smoke machines cuz bouncers kept getting beat up when they went off and the cameras couldnt see
I don't believe it is "to be expected". I live in Glasgow. Apparently the violent crime capital of the fucking universe or some such bullshit & I can't imagine that happening in any half decent club round here.
To be fair, there's no way a well known DJ (ie, someone that people have bought tickets specifically to hear) would ever get kicked off the decks here unless they were clearly wasted & completely train-wrecking mixes. They would never get booted for playing the wrong type of music. The promoters would be more than aware of who they are booking. They wouldn't book a trance DJ for a techno evening
etc, or a a guy like DJ Shadow for a pop-hungry crowd.
Edit - That open-format thing is pretty deceiving btw. I read that as "You can play anything" not "Keep it kind of poppy". |
Rita Debar
21.12.2012 | FUCK YOU PAY ME. Move on to the next gig. |
Joetta Zhuk
20.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by KS2
Sarcasm?
Irony would be a better description I guess. |
Latina Samon
20.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by Hermes
Yes it is expected. Green Street Hooligan, the football factory, they are situated in Engeland for a reason.
Sarcasm? |
Joetta Zhuk
20.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by KS2
Well its not
Yes it is expected. Green Street Hooligan, the football factory, they are situated in Engeland for a reason. |
Latina Samon
20.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by tombruton69
PS I am english btw so its to be expected.
Well its not |
Jerica Salava
20.12.2012 | I believe it's funny that the VIP douches are dictating the music. In better days of past, the dancefloor would dictate the music.
The VIP took over the dancefloor and the music became shit. I told people to boycott this and no one listened.
All of these DJ's kept selling their soul for the ca$h. Now the beast has risen from the depths to collect it's debt.
Check out this parody PSA I recorded for my friends podcast back in 2006:
http://soundowl.com/track/4rwu/john-...or-dnaradiocom |
Werner Bile
20.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by Hermes
Reading this, I still can't figure out what caused the London Riots...
On topic: This is an American thing I guess. I can't imagine it happening in Europe, because our clubbing culture is very different. Only if the dj is drunk or really screwing up.
Even in America it's a pretty recent development, never used to be this way. |
Joetta Zhuk
20.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by tombruton69
If I was in the crowd and the DJ I went there to see got kicked off I would be asking for my money back straight away. If not get a few mates together and smash the place up. PS I am english btw so its to be expected. my local club had to get rid of the smoke machines cuz bouncers kept getting beat up when they went off and the cameras couldnt see
Reading this, I still can't figure out what caused the London Riots...
On topic: This is an American thing I guess. I can't imagine it happening in Europe, because our clubbing culture is very different. Only if the dj is drunk or really screwing up. |
Marguerite Truka
20.12.2012 | If I was in the crowd and the DJ I went there to see got kicked off I would be asking for my money back straight away. If not get a few mates together and smash the place up. PS I am english btw so its to be expected. my local club had to get rid of the smoke machines cuz bouncers kept getting beat up when they went off and the cameras couldnt see |
Jerica Salava
20.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by Pearce161
Am I missing something in your meaning here? if its usually open format evening
to me that would suggest an eclectic crowd who are up for listening to lots of different stuff and therefore he should be able to play lots of different stuff without risking been booted
Open Format means multiple genres concentrating heavily on the Top 40 Charts. Disco, 80's, Hip-Hop, EDM, etc. The open format crowd is open-minded for genres, but they like to hear stuff they recognize. If you are a good DJ you can throw in some new stuff and make it work. It used to be called DJing.
Open Format does NOT mean beat juggling obscure drum and bass and getting kicked out the booth.
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Judi Sissel
20.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by Pearce161
Am I missing something in your meaning here? if its usually open format evening
to me that would suggest an eclectic crowd who are up for listening to lots of different stuff and therefore he should be able to play lots of different stuff without risking been booted
Originally Posted by ad357
I was believeing the same. If he was booked for "Top 40 Pop Night" then I would understand that guy's point.
Also, can anyone tell me why "Trap" isn't just hip-hop?
I am pretty sure that Haze means "open-format" in the sense of Top-40, Mashup, Hip-hip, basic punter type music. Not as in open to any and every musical genre. |
Oretha Afful
20.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by Sambo
I'm on Shadow's side on this, definitely. He should never have been booked there, and he shouldn't have to sell out because the bottle service punters want some.
However, when he said D&B did it, I was like "Really?" and then he followed with trap and juke I literally, out loud said "Oh." Now I understand what he meant by too future. I'm really into it at the moment and everyone I'm showing it too cannot stand it, they're only just getting on the deep house bandwagon; which is sidestepped completely because balls to deep house. But yeah, if he played trap it's understandable why people complained, that is full on bass swagger music, and is about as far from the top 40 as you can get with current EDM!
When I hear Trap it sounds like it should be Top 40 not EDM at all.
I can't stand the Trap people play around here. Maybe all the Djs suck or something but what I hear is basically horrible Top 40 hip hop.
You would believe the "open-format" crowd would love Trap |
Tesha Freudenstein
21.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by ad357
Also, can anyone tell me why "Trap" isn't just hip-hop?
cuz you can't say "run da instrumental hip-hop" and sound cool |
Shayne Kohtz
20.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by Pearce161
Am I missing something in your meaning here? if its usually open format evening
to me that would suggest an eclectic crowd who are up for listening to lots of different stuff and therefore he should be able to play lots of different stuff without risking been booted
I was believeing the same. If he was booked for "Top 40 Pop Night" then I would understand that guy's point.
Also, can anyone tell me why "Trap" isn't just hip-hop? |
Nannette Doniger
20.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by haze324
Trap is fine down here for Mansion. Craze is playing there this Friday and he'll def. play some Trap. Mr. Mauricio makes his rounds at the mega clubs here and he drops Trap all the time.
He should've never been booked there on a Friday evening
----- it's usually open format evening
. I believe both sides are responsible, the promoters and booking manager. It's going to happen. Bottom line, Mansion, LIV, and the rest is a money making businesses. Place will be packed this weekend for Craze, and on New Years for Carl Cox and Shadow will play his set surely somewhere else and jam.
Am I missing something in your meaning here? if its usually open format evening
to me that would suggest an eclectic crowd who are up for listening to lots of different stuff and therefore he should be able to play lots of different stuff without risking been booted |
Jerica Salava
19.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by haze324
Trap is fine down here for Mansion. Craze is playing there this Friday and he'll def. play some Trap. Mr. Mauricio makes his rounds at the mega clubs here and he drops Trap all the time.
He should've never been booked there on a Friday evening
----- it's usually open format evening
. I believe both sides are responsible, the promoters and booking manager. It's going to happen. Bottom line, Mansion, LIV, and the rest is a money making businesses. Place will be packed this weekend for Craze, and on New Years for Carl Cox and Shadow will play his set surely somewhere else and jam.
Cool. I'll be at Treehouse dancing to some basslines.
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Julissa Serrone
19.12.2012 | Trap is fine down here for Mansion. Craze is playing there this Friday and he'll def. play some Trap. Mr. Mauricio makes his rounds at the mega clubs here and he drops Trap all the time.
He should've never been booked there on a Friday evening
----- it's usually open format evening
. I believe both sides are responsible, the promoters and booking manager. It's going to happen. Bottom line, Mansion, LIV, and the rest is a money making businesses. Place will be packed this weekend for Craze, and on New Years for Carl Cox and Shadow will play his set surely somewhere else and jam. |
Jerica Salava
19.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by Sambo
I'm on Shadow's side on this, definitely. He should never have been booked there, and he shouldn't have to sell out because the bottle service punters want some.
However, when he said D&B did it, I was like "Really?" and then he followed with trap and juke I literally, out loud said "Oh." Now I understand what he meant by too future. I'm really into it at the moment and everyone I'm showing it too cannot stand it, they're only just getting on the deep house bandwagon; which is sidestepped completely because balls to deep house. But yeah, if he played trap it's understandable why people complained, that is full on bass swagger music, and is about as far from the top 40 as you can get with current EDM!
I would believe that the TRAP would be fine. This is Miami (aka Dirty South). It's just crunked hip hop, but Drum and Bass is questionable.
And how is Drum and Bass the future ???
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Jetta Drenzek
19.12.2012 | I'm on Shadow's side on this, definitely. He should never have been booked there, and he shouldn't have to sell out because the bottle service punters want some.
However, when he said D&B did it, I was like "Really?" and then he followed with trap and juke I literally, out loud said "Oh." Now I understand what he meant by too future. I'm really into it at the moment and everyone I'm showing it too cannot stand it, they're only just getting on the deep house bandwagon; which is sidestepped completely because balls to deep house. But yeah, if he played trap it's understandable why people complained, that is full on bass swagger music, and is about as far from the top 40 as you can get with current EDM! |
