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Promotion/Flyers at other artist events
Posted on: 27.03.2013 by Meaghan Machold
So Dillon Francis and Flosstradamus are playing 2 days apart in Philly, at a local venue. Been posting flyers for my new mixtape I put out last week- TrapGear Solid. Would it be seen as I guess shitty... if I were to pass out flyers INSIDE the venue? Its a huge 2,500 person warehouse...

or should flyers only be passed out on the outside/in line for the event? How would you feel if someone came and handed out flyers are your event?
Renate Mayeur
28.03.2013
Originally Posted by djmetalgear
Would it be seen as I guess shitty... if I were to pass out flyers INSIDE the venue? or should flyers only be passed out on the outside/in line for the event?
I've organised (or was involved in the organisation of) parties, festivals, concerts,.... for the last 10 years. If I was you, i would just ask the organisation's opinion. That's how i do it. Sometimes it's no problem to make promo on the event itself, sometimes you can put some flyers at the bar/toilet, sometimes you can't make promo at all. Jusk ask

At my own events I would like to be informed when somebody wants to make promo.
Lashawn Maycock
28.03.2013
Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle
It's broken Britain. Broken Britain mate
and bloody cold, BST this w'end too, no sign of Spring, let alone Summer...
Jetta Drenzek
27.03.2013
Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle
It's broken Britain. Broken Britain mate
Yup. Everything, from the weather, to this:

baby_faced_dad_fuels_broken_britain_fears_1748914135.jpg
Jetta Drenzek
27.03.2013
Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle
No, it's not illegal to distribute flyer inside private premises without the owner's permission in the UK. However if the owner found out and wasn't happy he can require you to leave his premises. To refuse would be to trespass.

Some local authorities have by-laws restricting people from distributing free materials from certain outdoor public areas. This is usually because of littering problems. Sometimes they operate a licensing scheme.

ps. nice sig
Interesting! I was always told that private property requires permission of the owner. The music shop I work in during the day got absolutely cunt-fisted off the mall because we handed out flyers inside (Inside the mall we rent a shop in, bear in mind) and like the club I work for, they said you can't do it on private property without permission from the owners.

It's all bureaucracy gone bananas if you ask me, like the majority of UK laws. One person says one thing, one says another, some jobsworth gets uppity and next thing you know, you're wearing a hi-vis just to use a vending machine.
Meaghan Machold
27.03.2013
Originally Posted by backtothefront
Outside the event, as people leave, absolutely fine. On the way in and/in the event, no way, not good.

When I was promoting our events, most of the various organisers of evening s around the city were courteous to each other and at the end of the day we all wanted a strong underground scene so it was in everyone's interest to promote responsibly. Although that didn't stop the odd person pasting over posters. It was almost a set of unwritten rules between us.
That's how I feel. I could see people black balling certain artists by not abiding by...."promotion/evening life rules".
Lashawn Maycock
27.03.2013
Originally Posted by djmetalgear
So Dillon Francis and Flosstradamus are playing 2 days apart in Philly, at a local venue. Been posting flyers for my new mixtape I put out last week- TrapGear Solid. Would it be seen as I guess shitty... if I were to pass out flyers INSIDE the venue? Its a huge 2,500 person warehouse...

or should flyers only be passed out on the outside/in line for the event? How would you feel if someone came and handed out flyers are your event?
Outside the event, as people leave, absolutely fine. On the way in and/in the event, no way, not good.

When I was promoting our events, most of the various organisers of evening s around the city were courteous to each other and at the end of the day we all wanted a strong underground scene so it was in everyone's interest to promote responsibly. Although that didn't stop the odd person pasting over posters. It was almost a set of unwritten rules between us.
Meaghan Machold
26.03.2013
Originally Posted by rkelley23
My girlfriend and I are on the street team for a few companies here so we always have boxes upon boxes of flyers for all different stuff. We stick to handing them to people outside of the venue AFTER and then inside we leave them on the bars and tables and then car windshields and windows in the surrounding parking lots
thanks! yea i believe bothering people inside is also a bad idea, so leaving them in bathrooms and tables is a good idea. appreciate ur input.
Meaghan Machold
26.03.2013
Originally Posted by deevey
If its available on anything apart from Cassette or Reel to Reel I'd have you pulled out of the venue for false advertising

+1 on after the gig though, even other venues would rarely flyer an even until the evening is over and everyone is fair game.

You might bring in some cut down business card sized flyers though if you meet some interesting people at the gig you can hand them out discreetly
yea theyre actually pretty small. i shouldnt call them flyers. almost like postcards. but thanks for the advice. i'll be leaving them in my car till after the show.
Renate Mayeur
28.03.2013
Originally Posted by djmetalgear
Would it be seen as I guess shitty... if I were to pass out flyers INSIDE the venue? or should flyers only be passed out on the outside/in line for the event?
I've organised (or was involved in the organisation of) parties, festivals, concerts,.... for the last 10 years. If I was you, i would just ask the organisation's opinion. That's how i do it. Sometimes it's no problem to make promo on the event itself, sometimes you can put some flyers at the bar/toilet, sometimes you can't make promo at all. Jusk ask

At my own events I would like to be informed when somebody wants to make promo.
Marshall Aby
28.03.2013
@backtothefront - what's "future jungle" then?
Jungle sounded like the future to me, in '94. What does it sound like now?
Lashawn Maycock
28.03.2013
Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle
It's broken Britain. Broken Britain mate
and bloody cold, BST this w'end too, no sign of Spring, let alone Summer...
Margaretta Hebenstreit
28.03.2013
Around here, every evening club has kind of a flyer-wall. It's somewhere near the bathrooms mostly so you got something to check out while you are waiting. You can leave any kinds of flyers there, but they will taken away at the end of the evening i guess, since the evening club of course uses this to promote it's own events. but you always find flyers from different events etc. so it is legit to just place your flyers there. i don't know if that exists where you are at, but i've seen this in pretty much every club around europe...
Jetta Drenzek
27.03.2013
Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle
It's broken Britain. Broken Britain mate
Yup. Everything, from the weather, to this:

baby_faced_dad_fuels_broken_britain_fears_1748914135.jpg
Marshall Aby
27.03.2013
It's broken Britain. Broken Britain mate
Jetta Drenzek
27.03.2013
Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle
No, it's not illegal to distribute flyer inside private premises without the owner's permission in the UK. However if the owner found out and wasn't happy he can require you to leave his premises. To refuse would be to trespass.

Some local authorities have by-laws restricting people from distributing free materials from certain outdoor public areas. This is usually because of littering problems. Sometimes they operate a licensing scheme.

ps. nice sig
Interesting! I was always told that private property requires permission of the owner. The music shop I work in during the day got absolutely cunt-fisted off the mall because we handed out flyers inside (Inside the mall we rent a shop in, bear in mind) and like the club I work for, they said you can't do it on private property without permission from the owners.

It's all bureaucracy gone bananas if you ask me, like the majority of UK laws. One person says one thing, one says another, some jobsworth gets uppity and next thing you know, you're wearing a hi-vis just to use a vending machine.
Marshall Aby
27.03.2013
No, it's not illegal to distribute flyer inside private premises without the owner's permission in the UK. However if the owner found out and wasn't happy he can require you to leave his premises. To refuse would be to trespass.

Some local authorities have by-laws restricting people from distributing free materials from certain outdoor public areas. This is usually because of littering problems. Sometimes they operate a licensing scheme.

ps. nice sig
Jetta Drenzek
27.03.2013
In the UK, it's actually illegal to flyer/leaflet in a venue without permission from the venue owner. Outside is fair game though. When I used to work on the bar they would have us flyer outside schools for the under-18's evening , and this one time a teacher asked us to move and I was like "What, from this public walk way? Nah, I'll pass". Daft bitch.

Personally I would do outside, before the gig, they're more likely to end up all over the floor/bar at the gig that way, and more people will notice the flyer. Just make sure your name can clearly be seen if you look down at the floor in relatively low light.

You see, if you do it after, it's just gonna go scrunched up in a pocket, if they're on the floor of the venue, they're not gonna disappear until after the gig is empty.
Delfina Suedmeyer
27.03.2013
put them up in bathroom stalls, mirrors, bar area. but dont pass them out.
Hayden Raugh
27.03.2013
have a few in your back pocket.... buy a pack of fags.....

when your having a smoke make some friends... tell them about your stuff if they seem interested just say something off the cuff like.... 'actually i might have a flyer here...'

but that would be the extent of it inside the venue..... and with that suggestion i wouldnt hand out more then 10
Meaghan Machold
27.03.2013
Originally Posted by backtothefront
Outside the event, as people leave, absolutely fine. On the way in and/in the event, no way, not good.

When I was promoting our events, most of the various organisers of evening s around the city were courteous to each other and at the end of the day we all wanted a strong underground scene so it was in everyone's interest to promote responsibly. Although that didn't stop the odd person pasting over posters. It was almost a set of unwritten rules between us.
That's how I feel. I could see people black balling certain artists by not abiding by...."promotion/evening life rules".
Lashawn Maycock
27.03.2013
Originally Posted by djmetalgear
So Dillon Francis and Flosstradamus are playing 2 days apart in Philly, at a local venue. Been posting flyers for my new mixtape I put out last week- TrapGear Solid. Would it be seen as I guess shitty... if I were to pass out flyers INSIDE the venue? Its a huge 2,500 person warehouse...

or should flyers only be passed out on the outside/in line for the event? How would you feel if someone came and handed out flyers are your event?
Outside the event, as people leave, absolutely fine. On the way in and/in the event, no way, not good.

When I was promoting our events, most of the various organisers of evening s around the city were courteous to each other and at the end of the day we all wanted a strong underground scene so it was in everyone's interest to promote responsibly. Although that didn't stop the odd person pasting over posters. It was almost a set of unwritten rules between us.
Audrey Pinda
27.03.2013
It really depends on the venue, and if you're there on your own dime, or the crew you are doing promo for has an understanding with the venue/crew throwing the show and you're in on a promotion comp.

Most of the time tactfully doing promo outside the venue is the best bet. If you have a question otherwise, talk to the people throwing the event and ask, or talk to the staff at the event. They won't mind if you ask, just listen to them if they tell you no.

Flying people's cars is one of the dumbest things anyone can ever do. Ever. It makes me not want to go to shows I otherwise am planning on going to, and it's a complete waste of resources.

A lot of venues won't let you bring in flyers anyhow. I usually have a few in my pockets in case I'm talking up any shows coming up in the near future just to hand to people however.

Really though, flyer someone else's party like you'd like them to flyer yours: with respect.
Meaghan Machold
26.03.2013
Originally Posted by rkelley23
My girlfriend and I are on the street team for a few companies here so we always have boxes upon boxes of flyers for all different stuff. We stick to handing them to people outside of the venue AFTER and then inside we leave them on the bars and tables and then car windshields and windows in the surrounding parking lots
thanks! yea i believe bothering people inside is also a bad idea, so leaving them in bathrooms and tables is a good idea. appreciate ur input.
Alyse Chiong
26.03.2013
My girlfriend and I are on the street team for a few companies here so we always have boxes upon boxes of flyers for all different stuff. We stick to handing them to people outside of the venue AFTER and then inside we leave them on the bars and tables and then car windshields and windows in the surrounding parking lots
Meaghan Machold
26.03.2013
Originally Posted by deevey
If its available on anything apart from Cassette or Reel to Reel I'd have you pulled out of the venue for false advertising

+1 on after the gig though, even other venues would rarely flyer an even until the evening is over and everyone is fair game.

You might bring in some cut down business card sized flyers though if you meet some interesting people at the gig you can hand them out discreetly
yea theyre actually pretty small. i shouldnt call them flyers. almost like postcards. but thanks for the advice. i'll be leaving them in my car till after the show.
Rolanda Clodfelder
26.03.2013
Been posting flyers for my new mixtape I put out last week
If its available on anything apart from Cassette or Reel to Reel I'd have you pulled out of the venue for false advertising

+1 on after the gig though, even other venues would rarely flyer an even until the evening is over and everyone is fair game.

You might bring in some cut down business card sized flyers though if you meet some interesting people at the gig you can hand them out discreetly
Deangelo Boender
26.03.2013
Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle
Serious answer:
I'd probably drop the flyers somewhere near in a plastic bag where they can be retrieved, enjoy the gig, rush outside and hit the punters on the way out.
Word to this. hit them after the show, you'll be less likely to be chased off the scene. You talk about handing fliers out on the sidewalk like you'll be somehow safe from being chased away, not the case. After the show is a better bet.
Marshall Aby
26.03.2013
Serious answer:
- as a headliner with the rep those 2 have - I wouldn't care
- as a punter - I wouldn't want to be hassled inside the venue
- as a venue owner - I wouldn't want people hassling my punters inside the venue. You might get your leaflets taxed at the door

I'd probably drop the flyers somewhere near in a plastic bag where they can be retrieved, enjoy the gig, rush outside and hit the punters on the way out.
Meaghan Machold
26.03.2013
Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle
That's cool. Getting thrown out of concerts venues earns you more life points anyway
lol i hate u
but at least u responded. thanks. i guess ill just stick to the outside of the venue.
Marshall Aby
26.03.2013
That's cool. Getting thrown out of concerts venues earns you more life points anyway
Meaghan Machold
26.03.2013
Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle
I guess everyone should experience being thrown out of a evening club at least once in their lives
its 100% not a evening club. its a concert venue... but thanks
Marshall Aby
26.03.2013
I guess everyone should experience being thrown out of a evening club at least once in their lives
Meaghan Machold
26.03.2013
Originally Posted by Jayvee
When I was waiting in line to get in a club I wouldn't have a place to store a flyer, and if I did I would have forgotten it by the time I got home. With the flyer probably ending up being washed and unreadable...
i realize that. i dont expect anyone to save it and frame it. i throw out every flyer i ever get from any show. but i def look at it at least once. and just having the name in my head plants a seed, where next time i see that artists name, I'll know why/when i remember it. thats how flyers work. im not passing out peices of art work.

the question im asking is do u go INSIDE a venue and pass out ur own flyers... or is that seen as almost invading someone elses turf/time slot to promote ur shit, or are u just supporting the local scene, especially if the music you play is the same category...

i see it as both ways.
Alease Fitch
26.03.2013
When I was waiting in line to get in a club I wouldn't have a place to store a flyer, and if I did I would have forgotten it by the time I got home. With the flyer probably ending up being washed and unreadable...

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