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4 Channel Debate Posted on: 28.03.2013 by Georgie Lukowiak Traktor Kontrol S4 vs Pioneer DDJ-T1 Both are Traktor Controllers, both are four decks. Let me hear what you believe! GO!
Sharmaine Pellino 29.03.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign Personally I just can't get over the fact that the S4 feels like it's made out of paper tbh Very true. I bought one two months ago, was soo happy that I got it, and than started to play. +- 700`
Sharmaine Pellino 29.03.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign Personally I just can't get over the fact that the S4 feels like it's made out of paper tbh Very true. I bought one two months ago, was soo happy that I got it, and than started to play. +- 700`
Sharmaine Pellino 29.03.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign Personally I just can't get over the fact that the S4 feels like it's made out of paper tbh Very true. I bought one two months ago, was soo happy that I got it, and than started to play. +- 700`
Sharmaine Pellino 29.03.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign Personally I just can't get over the fact that the S4 feels like it's made out of paper tbh Very true. I bought one two months ago, was soo happy that I got it, and than started to play. +- 700`
Masako Barcalow 29.03.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 The reviews of the MTP II from all the major sites (DJWORX, DJTT, DJ Booth, Digital DJ Tips) seem to say otherwise. I'm not saying the Mixtrack is a good alternative to the S4, but that the pads on the S4 are not at all suited for finger drumming. Neither the S4 or the DDJ-T1 are that great for build quality, and an all-in-one controller doesn't come close to a proper mixer for timecode use. My apologies, I went back and re-read a few: the pads of the MTP II were apparently ok, but the mapping it came with wasn't that stellar in taking advantage of them. I'll also say that yes, nothing can replace a full-blown mixer for timecode. However as someone who alternates between mobile gigs and bedroom practice, it can be super nice to just unplug the controller from the bedroom setup and toss it in the backpack. I just like the idea that it can be expanded on, as for me that is a rather high priority when assessing potential new gear. However, its whatever OP needs that is going to be the best choice
Sharmaine Pellino 29.03.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign Personally I just can't get over the fact that the S4 feels like it's made out of paper tbh Very true. I bought one two months ago, was soo happy that I got it, and than started to play. +- 700`
Alphonso Deitchman 29.03.2013	Originally Posted by DJ Sunshine Initial reviews have stated that the MPC pads of the MTP II have not lived up to the initial hype. Also if he really wanted MPC pads, an LPD8 (even a pair of them) + controller of his choice would likely be the most economic way to do that. The reviews of the MTP II from all the major sites (DJWORX, DJTT, DJ Booth, Digital DJ Tips) seem to say otherwise. I'm not saying the Mixtrack is a good alternative to the S4, but that the pads on the S4 are not at all suited for finger drumming. Neither the S4 or the DDJ-T1 are that great for build quality, and an all-in-one controller doesn't come close to a proper mixer for timecode use.
Masako Barcalow 29.03.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 The DDJ-SX, or even the Mixtrack Pro II would be much better suited to juggling than the S4 since they both have proper MPC-style pads. Initial reviews have stated that the MPC pads of the MTP II have not lived up to the initial hype. Also if he really wanted MPC pads, an LPD8 (even a pair of them) + controller of his choice would likely be the most economic way to do that. My $0.02 is to go with the S4, mainly because Pioneer has really been disappointing me in the controller market recently (DDJ-SX being one potential exception). I played around with a DDJ-T1 in a store awhile back, and the thing honestly felt more toyish than the S4. The S4, while being a bit more "squished" than the T1, felt more solid and well-built. I also feel it has a lot more potential to be expanded on than the T1, with the ability to act as a Traktor-certified mixer if you ever decide to add CDJs/vinyl down the road. I truly missed the feel of platters/vinyl after being on a controller for 6 months, but you may not give a damn.
Jeffrey Akinsanya 29.03.2013	Originally Posted by hellnegative ddj-sx hands down. +1
Jetta Drenzek 28.03.2013	I was choosing between them, and literally this afternoon placed down
Georgie Lukowiak 28.03.2013	Traktor Kontrol S4 vs Pioneer DDJ-T1 Both are Traktor Controllers, both are four decks. Let me hear what you believe! GO!
Masako Barcalow 29.03.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 The reviews of the MTP II from all the major sites (DJWORX, DJTT, DJ Booth, Digital DJ Tips) seem to say otherwise. I'm not saying the Mixtrack is a good alternative to the S4, but that the pads on the S4 are not at all suited for finger drumming. Neither the S4 or the DDJ-T1 are that great for build quality, and an all-in-one controller doesn't come close to a proper mixer for timecode use. My apologies, I went back and re-read a few: the pads of the MTP II were apparently ok, but the mapping it came with wasn't that stellar in taking advantage of them. I'll also say that yes, nothing can replace a full-blown mixer for timecode. However as someone who alternates between mobile gigs and bedroom practice, it can be super nice to just unplug the controller from the bedroom setup and toss it in the backpack. I just like the idea that it can be expanded on, as for me that is a rather high priority when assessing potential new gear. However, its whatever OP needs that is going to be the best choice
Sharmaine Pellino 29.03.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign Personally I just can't get over the fact that the S4 feels like it's made out of paper tbh Very true. I bought one two months ago, was soo happy that I got it, and than started to play. +- 700`
Alphonso Deitchman 29.03.2013	Originally Posted by DJ Sunshine Initial reviews have stated that the MPC pads of the MTP II have not lived up to the initial hype. Also if he really wanted MPC pads, an LPD8 (even a pair of them) + controller of his choice would likely be the most economic way to do that. The reviews of the MTP II from all the major sites (DJWORX, DJTT, DJ Booth, Digital DJ Tips) seem to say otherwise. I'm not saying the Mixtrack is a good alternative to the S4, but that the pads on the S4 are not at all suited for finger drumming. Neither the S4 or the DDJ-T1 are that great for build quality, and an all-in-one controller doesn't come close to a proper mixer for timecode use.
Masako Barcalow 29.03.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 The DDJ-SX, or even the Mixtrack Pro II would be much better suited to juggling than the S4 since they both have proper MPC-style pads. Initial reviews have stated that the MPC pads of the MTP II have not lived up to the initial hype. Also if he really wanted MPC pads, an LPD8 (even a pair of them) + controller of his choice would likely be the most economic way to do that. My $0.02 is to go with the S4, mainly because Pioneer has really been disappointing me in the controller market recently (DDJ-SX being one potential exception). I played around with a DDJ-T1 in a store awhile back, and the thing honestly felt more toyish than the S4. The S4, while being a bit more "squished" than the T1, felt more solid and well-built. I also feel it has a lot more potential to be expanded on than the T1, with the ability to act as a Traktor-certified mixer if you ever decide to add CDJs/vinyl down the road. I truly missed the feel of platters/vinyl after being on a controller for 6 months, but you may not give a damn.
Alphonso Deitchman 29.03.2013	The DDJ-SX, or even the Mixtrack Pro II would be much better suited to juggling than the S4 since they both have proper MPC-style pads.
Jetta Drenzek 29.03.2013	I have not done any cue point juggling since my launchpad went ropeless bungee jumping, even though I had an F1, however I started doing it randomly in the S4 last evening and it was a joy. Those buttons just feel like.. Like Traktor. As a massive bumboy of Traktor, I don't know why I considered anything else. And I can finally use the loop recorder effectively, which has just given my F1 a steroid boost. My Easter weekend is sorted. The only thing left now is to see how long it lasts before something breaks! So yeah, I'm all for the S4, because I'm just going all out in NI fanboyism.
Doreen Schurle 29.03.2013	Personally I just can't get over the fact that the S4 feels like it's made out of paper tbh
Vaughn Malbon 29.03.2013	Cant comment too much on the S4 as I dont own one but I love the T1, could depend on your workflow. Do you want an all in one controller that will do everything. Or do you want something that has good control of all the decks, mixer and standard functions, but have all the extras, such as loop recorder control etc offloaded to other controllers. The T1 is great controller for the second type of workflow, its big, good jog wheels not a bit cluttered, when i want to get to the stuff under the bonnet I use another controller. I did consider the S4 but one of the reasons I went for the T1 was because of its size and ease of use for 4 decks. To me the S4 felt cluttered and to me I would imagine using it a lot could be a bit of a claustrophobic experience, the T1 lets you breathe. I can press another button on another controller for all the detailed stuff.
Allena Sciarrotta 29.03.2013	S4 with innofader and timecode vinyl. NI could be revising the S4 anytime soon with bigger jogs and a more metallic body. I love it except for the plastic parts
Jeffrey Akinsanya 29.03.2013	Originally Posted by hellnegative ddj-sx hands down. +1
Ling Mccamman 29.03.2013	S4 is WAAAAY better! Its more portable, sexier, tightly integrated with Traktor! Go NI
Pauletta Flaningam 28.03.2013	4Trak definitely. Best non NI Traktor controller out there. Considering one for my next upgrade but the reviews I've been getting for it from my mates and the internet have nothing but praise for this amazing peace of kit.
Emelina Chillson 28.03.2013	ddj-sx hands down.
Georgie Lukowiak 28.03.2013	Not giving up on the Z2 + CDJ's ! Just wanted to see where other tech toolers stand in the debate !
Layne Koop 28.03.2013	Vci-400ege....????
Kellie Myrum 28.03.2013	I saw many people had problems mapping DDJ-T1 jogwheels in traktor. Definitely not recommended for Traktor!
Alphonso Deitchman 28.03.2013	Giving up on the Z2 + CDJs then?
Renate Mayeur 28.03.2013	there are more interesting 4-deck controllers traktor, than the two you named. Or do you just want the opinion of the users of those two controllers?
Jetta Drenzek 28.03.2013	I was choosing between them, and literally this afternoon placed down

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