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Contour Remix, anyone?
Posted on: 15.04.2013 by Doreen Schurle
Well after all the fuss surrounding the Jockey 3 Remix, I figured there's gotta be quite a few people out there with older gear, more specifically the Contours (I know a couple of people on here have one, at least), so I'm just wondering if anyone would be interested in a J3Remix-style mapping for the Contours?

Here's a quick demo of the Beatmasher layer:

https://www.facebook.com/video/embed...46253308889030

Apologies for the crappy quality, just did the video quickly on my phone mid-mapping lol.
Doreen Schurle
30.04.2013
Originally Posted by michael133
I'd be up for giving it a test if you send me the mapping
You on Facebook mate? Will be easier to walk you through the mapping live that way

EDIT: http://www.filedropper.com/contourdecka
Doreen Schurle
18.04.2013
Originally Posted by djelton
Just wondering, do you plan using the Pan knob in regular layer to map something else? Because really Pan, usually is useless, because with Contours you have use anyway a another mixer, which usually has Pan knob. So why not use it for something cool in normal mode?
I haven't thought about it tbh, any suggestions?

I DID have an idea when I woke up this morning about using the pads for a 3rd mode for live performance of sorts... I won't give away too much just yet, not sure if it's actually viable haha :P Should have a rough prototype video ready by this evening
Doreen Schurle
16.04.2013
Originally Posted by Stewe
Tried adding FX Store Preset command?
I'm unfamiliar with that one... seen it in the lists, but never really sure what it actually does :-/ got any details for me?
Venetta Viescas
19.05.2013		How are things going?
Tamela Batara
30.04.2013		Wont be on the decks until later, but have downloaded the tsi. Never even got a chance to test the last one, lol. Sorry.
Doreen Schurle
30.04.2013
Originally Posted by michael133
I'd be up for giving it a test if you send me the mapping
You on Facebook mate? Will be easier to walk you through the mapping live that way

EDIT: http://www.filedropper.com/contourdecka
Katelyn Hoctor
30.04.2013		I'd be up for giving it a test if you send me the mapping
Doreen Schurle
30.04.2013		Anyone with a Contour bored at the moment and fancy testing out the latest update to this mapping? Just added effects to the faders and fixed a few issues I noticed last time I played out
Doreen Schurle
18.04.2013
Originally Posted by djelton
Just wondering, do you plan using the Pan knob in regular layer to map something else? Because really Pan, usually is useless, because with Contours you have use anyway a another mixer, which usually has Pan knob. So why not use it for something cool in normal mode?
I haven't thought about it tbh, any suggestions?

I DID have an idea when I woke up this morning about using the pads for a 3rd mode for live performance of sorts... I won't give away too much just yet, not sure if it's actually viable haha :P Should have a rough prototype video ready by this evening
Venetta Viescas
17.04.2013		Just wondering, do you plan using the Pan knob in regular layer to map something else? Because really Pan, usually is useless, because with Contours you have use anyway a another mixer, which usually has Pan knob. So why not use it for something cool in normal mode?
Doreen Schurle
17.04.2013		Cheers for all the support guys

I personally wouldn't recommend buying the Contours instead of the Jockey 3 Remix for any reasons other than the ones you would've bought the Contours instead of the original Jockey 3ME... they're very different controllers for very different purposes. The Jockey 3 Remix is a nice and compact all-in-one solution, whereas the Contours REQUIRE the use of an external mixer (or at least an additional MIDI mixer like the MM-1, or the M-Audio X-Session Pro).

If you regularly play in venues that have house mixers, then the Contours would probably be a better option. Also, if you're a 4-deck user, then again, the Contours would be a better option. If you primarily use 2 decks and want an all-in-one solution, go for the J3 Remix. It also has the better high-resolution jogwheels, which is always nice.

The main differences, as someone else stated, are the lack of tricolor LEDs, and the lack of dedicated buttons NEXT to the pads for each mode. With that said, my Contour mapping will actually offer better control over the sample decks, as you've got dedicated volume faders for each deck, mute buttons, and encoders for the per-slot Filters. It's not just sample triggering, it's basically rudimentary Remix deck control.
Tamela Batara
18.04.2013		Well, mdcdesign, I'm really looking forward to you releasing this mapping. It already looks really good.

I have had my contour for a while now, and only use it for browsing and loading to decks in Traktor, to be used with my 1210's in Scratch Pro. My DB4 usually takes care of all my fx needs.

But I'm believeing it would be good to utilise the Contour more, and your mapping could be just the thing. Looking forward to a release.

If your needing any help beta testing, give me a shout.
Venetta Viescas
17.04.2013		The only downside should be not dual-coloured LED's, but that doesn't matter much But in my view, this mapping is gona be much more superior than the Jockey 3 Remix will ever be, first because, this guy already has made some serious shit + Contour has more inputs(ie. line faders) which he can use for more fx
Neoma Picklesimer
17.04.2013		Makes me consider to either buy 2 contours instead of the Reloop Jockey 3 Remix
Killer project mdc! Keep it up

Btw, are there any advantages or disadvantages to your contour mapping compared to the Jockey 3 Remix?
I got the feeling yours will have even more effects to play around with in the end...
Kellie Myrum
16.04.2013		It came with 2.5 where NI made update to FX unit mappings. In earlier versions the FX units were divided in two pages where you could use individual paths to map group or advanced FX mode. I liked that better because it allowed more friendly mappings where you could use whet they called it "issue" to take advantage over effect LED output mappings. They also made instant effect or modifier condition to choose mode for command but in a bit more complex mappings that's quite pain to make a work around because Traktor got only two condition slots to play with for now... (However they seem not to be interested in adding more modifiers and slots these days).

New FX engine is still buggy. In previous versions I could simply set any of FX buttons on my BCD3000 and didn't have to worry about any pre-mapped smart button in various modifiers. That was the mapping I was working on for about two years (2.0-2.5) one day I imported that in 2.5 ma mapping and there it was... I needed that extra press for loading effect while switching unit mode which was pretty annoying for the time I spent to found out that they have added Store Preset command which actually saves snapshot and play effect on switching unit mode. Saved my day
Doreen Schurle
16.04.2013
Originally Posted by Stewe
Tried adding FX Store Preset command?
I'm unfamiliar with that one... seen it in the lists, but never really sure what it actually does :-/ got any details for me?
Kellie Myrum
16.04.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Yeah I've done that now Also had to add an intermediate state between "off" and "on"; to facilitate changing the FX unit to group and loading each effect. If you try to do it on the same button press as setting the knob parameters and buttons, you get some sort of weird collision in Traktor's mapping engine, even with "Reset FX on Load" unchecked in preferences
Tried adding FX Store Preset command?
Doreen Schurle
16.04.2013
Originally Posted by Stewe
You can set parameter jump to 0% in next press after freeze effect to cut reverb tail, pretty easy.
Yeah I've done that now Also had to add an intermediate state between "off" and "on"; to facilitate changing the FX unit to group and loading each effect. If you try to do it on the same button press as setting the knob parameters and buttons, you get some sort of weird collision in Traktor's mapping engine, even with "Reset FX on Load" unchecked in preferences

Originally Posted by djelton
Wow, that's some complicated shit, can't even imagine how tedious process that could have been
Since I'm really looking forward to this(planning to maybe use this mapping in an oncoming Dj competition, or two), then atm you might consider me your no1 fan of mapping
Haha, well at the moment it's literally taking me HOURS just to perfect a single control's function, because I'm trying to do it all methodically and eliminate bugs as soon as they arise.
Venetta Viescas
16.04.2013		Wow, that's some complicated shit, can't even imagine how tedious process that could have been
Since I'm really looking forward to this(planning to maybe use this mapping in an oncoming Dj competition, or two), then atm you might consider me your no1 fan of mapping
Kellie Myrum
16.04.2013		You can set parameter jump to 0% in next press after freeze effect to cut reverb tail, pretty easy.
Doreen Schurle
16.04.2013		https://www.facebook.com/video/embed...46904048823956

Little update
Katelyn Hoctor
15.04.2013		I'd love this mapping when it's done the main thing I don't like about the reloop mapping is the lack of jog wheel on decks C & D I just don't have the patience to map those layers myself as I'd also like to change out the sample buttons as I trigger via my F1 and i love t he macro fx idea on the contour
Doreen Schurle
14.04.2013
Originally Posted by djelton
Hey, that's really awesome shit your mapping there If you continue I would really appreciate the mapping
But maybe, (I will tell you my point of view, maybe you can get something to believe about :P), since for example I, am mixin with 2 deck's with 2 Contours(A & B channel) and they both use the 1 & 2 buttons for applying which effect block is in use, modding your mapping to everyday use would be difficult for some newbie mappers. So I suggest maybe putting the effect pack to button 3 and sample deck's to button 4, that would be really awesome

Also I was wondering, if you are making the mappings inside the original mapping file or you added a new pake/mapping/layer, which can be activated/added/removed etc?

So basicaly A & B would be the same channels A & B, the 1 & 2 buttons are the regular effect block assigner buttons and button 3 takes you to "Remix mode", where all the controls do some crazy shit and button 4 takes you to sample deck mode, where the faders are the volume controls etc. Just some ideas

But I really like what you are doing, keep it going(I added some thoughts to private aswell)
Cheers mate Well the eventual goal is to have all 4 "pages" mapped with different effects. Each deck, and each page uses a separate TSI file, so you can load what you need and what you don't need in a piecemeal kinda way and modify and distribute your own versions. The additional TSIs won't work with the Reloop mappings, unfortunately, as there's no easy way of preventing the normal mappings from triggering without assigning modifiers to everything (which is what I'm doing atm).
Venetta Viescas
14.04.2013		Hey, that's really awesome shit your mapping there If you continue I would really appreciate the mapping
But maybe, (I will tell you my point of view, maybe you can get something to believe about :P), since for example I, am mixin with 2 deck's with 2 Contours(A & B channel) and they both use the 1 & 2 buttons for applying which effect block is in use, modding your mapping to everyday use would be difficult for some newbie mappers. So I suggest maybe putting the effect pack to button 3 and sample deck's to button 4, that would be really awesome

Also I was wondering, if you are making the mappings inside the original mapping file or you added a new pake/mapping/layer, which can be activated/added/removed etc?

So basicaly A & B would be the same channels A & B, the 1 & 2 buttons are the regular effect block assigner buttons and button 3 takes you to "Remix mode", where all the controls do some crazy shit and button 4 takes you to sample deck mode, where the faders are the volume controls etc. Just some ideas

But I really like what you are doing, keep it going(I added some thoughts to private aswell)
Doreen Schurle
14.04.2013

Quick update with gater pad effects added and a better quality video

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