Reply to Problems using traktor with novation nocturn AND launchpad

Does anyone know how to use traktor with nocturn AND launchpad? I can use nocturn via [the eternally frustrating] automap no problem, and I can use launchpad via standard midi if I stop automap running no problem. But as soon as automap is on I can't use launchpad in traktor so I can't use both together. Also I use launchpad in ableton so don't want to permanently remove it from automap (if this is even possible).

Has anyone else had this problem?

Also a tip - don't buy anything from novation, automap is a massive pain in the arse why can't they just use standard midi I don't get it. In trying to make things easier with automap they've just made things miles more confusing-it irritates the hell out of me. Rant over.

Thanks for any tips.