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What to do to spice thing up? Posted on: 30.04.2013 by Waldo Lessing Ok so im 18 and a little while back I decided to pick up DJing, and though of maybe picking up turntablism to seperate my self from the average joe schmo. If im to pursue this as a career i need to stand out with so much competition- I thought of getting a midi fighter to pull off something like this a couple times in a set: What else would separate me from others? I wanna be real good and have that wow factor so i can turn this into a career- getting paid for what you would do for free- any help appreciated!
Lashawn Maycock 03.05.2013	Originally Posted by Timbo21 I never bought any CDj's. They never inspired me. I loved vinyl. I hate CD. CDJ's (to me) are just crappy CD's trying to behave like vinyl. With Traktor you can start to do really interesting stuff, and not the in your face - lack of taste - stuff in this video. If you put an inexperienced person on a mixing desk they wack up the EQ, put effects on everything, and that is what you see with Traktor sometimes, but it also happened with turntables: too much cutting, or spin backs, etc. Taste takes time, and you listen back to your old mix tapes and believe, OMG, I should have just let that track play. Ditto, I went straight from 16 years of vinyl directly to Traktor in 2010, completely skipping out CDJs, although I have/do use them if required. Funny how CDJ's were the devil and not proper tools for DJ's to use when they were released, just as we've been experiencing over recent years with digital DJ tools. Obviously it's like anything, any bit of kit can be abused and made to sound awful, it's not the fault of the tools but the person using it. A lot of the people I'm involved with are steadily moving over from vinyl/CDJ's to controllers and the like having realised the opportunities they can provide. The button mashing, manic, quick mixing/mashups do my head in too. Just because the tools can do these things, doesn't mean its always good to listen to.
Edwardo Rothenberger 03.05.2013	Originally Posted by Sambo Not at all. Every Pioneer/vinyl fanboy I have met, as soon as you mention Traktor you can see their facial expression twitch and then they either try to hide it or they just go all out "Oh so you're not like, a proper DJ then?" And I have not yet met one person in that category who has reacted differently. Anyone who uses Traktor around and about will know this reaction. I never bought any CDj's. They never inspired me. I loved vinyl. I hate CD. CDJ's (to me) are just crappy CD's trying to behave like vinyl. With Traktor you can start to do really interesting stuff, and not the in your face - lack of taste - stuff in this video. If you put an inexperienced person on a mixing desk they wack up the EQ, put effects on everything, and that is what you see with Traktor sometimes, but it also happened with turntables: too much cutting, or spin backs, etc. Taste takes time, and you listen back to your old mix tapes and believe, OMG, I should have just let that track play.
Doreen Schurle 02.05.2013	Originally Posted by Sambo Not at all. Every Pioneer/vinyl fanboy I have met, as soon as you mention Traktor you can see their facial expression twitch and then they either try to hide it or they just go all out "Oh so you're not like, a proper DJ then?" And I have not yet met one person in that category who has reacted differently. Anyone who uses Traktor around and about will know this reaction. Yes, but where I live there's far more Traktor users with residencies than anyone else.
Jetta Drenzek 02.05.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign Bit of an over-generalization there. Not at all. Every Pioneer/vinyl fanboy I have met, as soon as you mention Traktor you can see their facial expression twitch and then they either try to hide it or they just go all out "Oh so you're not like, a proper DJ then?" And I have not yet met one person in that category who has reacted differently. Anyone who uses Traktor around and about will know this reaction.
Doreen Schurle 01.05.2013	Originally Posted by Sambo and is the reason everyone who uses Traktor has such a hard time with DJ snobs. Bit of an over-generalization there.
Bunny Sockel 03.05.2013	If you wanna have a career in djing and be "famous" learn how to produce. No one gets "famous" by playing other peoples songs. Half the DJ's that hate on traktor are just pure idiots. Just let people use whatever they want. I can be 10x more creative when i am using my traktor/ableton setup (maschine, 4 decks and custom ableton effects). I love it when i get up infront of other DJ's who have given me shit before about using traktor and then they see what i am doing it really shuts their mouths and makes them believe about how laptop DJ's play.
Lashawn Maycock 03.05.2013	Originally Posted by Timbo21 I never bought any CDj's. They never inspired me. I loved vinyl. I hate CD. CDJ's (to me) are just crappy CD's trying to behave like vinyl. With Traktor you can start to do really interesting stuff, and not the in your face - lack of taste - stuff in this video. If you put an inexperienced person on a mixing desk they wack up the EQ, put effects on everything, and that is what you see with Traktor sometimes, but it also happened with turntables: too much cutting, or spin backs, etc. Taste takes time, and you listen back to your old mix tapes and believe, OMG, I should have just let that track play. Ditto, I went straight from 16 years of vinyl directly to Traktor in 2010, completely skipping out CDJs, although I have/do use them if required. Funny how CDJ's were the devil and not proper tools for DJ's to use when they were released, just as we've been experiencing over recent years with digital DJ tools. Obviously it's like anything, any bit of kit can be abused and made to sound awful, it's not the fault of the tools but the person using it. A lot of the people I'm involved with are steadily moving over from vinyl/CDJ's to controllers and the like having realised the opportunities they can provide. The button mashing, manic, quick mixing/mashups do my head in too. Just because the tools can do these things, doesn't mean its always good to listen to.
Edwardo Rothenberger 03.05.2013	Originally Posted by Sambo Not at all. Every Pioneer/vinyl fanboy I have met, as soon as you mention Traktor you can see their facial expression twitch and then they either try to hide it or they just go all out "Oh so you're not like, a proper DJ then?" And I have not yet met one person in that category who has reacted differently. Anyone who uses Traktor around and about will know this reaction. I never bought any CDj's. They never inspired me. I loved vinyl. I hate CD. CDJ's (to me) are just crappy CD's trying to behave like vinyl. With Traktor you can start to do really interesting stuff, and not the in your face - lack of taste - stuff in this video. If you put an inexperienced person on a mixing desk they wack up the EQ, put effects on everything, and that is what you see with Traktor sometimes, but it also happened with turntables: too much cutting, or spin backs, etc. Taste takes time, and you listen back to your old mix tapes and believe, OMG, I should have just let that track play.
Maude Milesky 02.05.2013	Vinyl, CDJ's, or Digital? Crowd doesn't care. Make them dance. Use the gear that best allows you to do that and stop being influenced by online jabber about what setups are "the best." de4thbyc4ke - Good music selection is #1 priority. Practice this by getting lots of gigs and learning from every one of them. Once you got that down, and you'll know it, then you can see what 'spice' you actually need.
Doreen Schurle 02.05.2013	Originally Posted by Sambo Not at all. Every Pioneer/vinyl fanboy I have met, as soon as you mention Traktor you can see their facial expression twitch and then they either try to hide it or they just go all out "Oh so you're not like, a proper DJ then?" And I have not yet met one person in that category who has reacted differently. Anyone who uses Traktor around and about will know this reaction. Yes, but where I live there's far more Traktor users with residencies than anyone else.
Jetta Drenzek 02.05.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign Bit of an over-generalization there. Not at all. Every Pioneer/vinyl fanboy I have met, as soon as you mention Traktor you can see their facial expression twitch and then they either try to hide it or they just go all out "Oh so you're not like, a proper DJ then?" And I have not yet met one person in that category who has reacted differently. Anyone who uses Traktor around and about will know this reaction.
Edwardo Rothenberger 02.05.2013	That video is the epitome of naff controllerism. Trying to make it as a Dj is akin to the acting proffession, or musician/singer. You are highly likely not going to make much money at all and will NOT be able to give up your day job
Phebe Marthey 02.05.2013	I believe it makes a cool video, but I wouldn't do it for an audience.
Augustine Mitzen 02.05.2013	i believe that video gave me cancer
Doreen Schurle 01.05.2013	Originally Posted by Sambo and is the reason everyone who uses Traktor has such a hard time with DJ snobs. Bit of an over-generalization there.
Jetta Drenzek 01.05.2013	That video sucked hard, and is the reason everyone who uses Traktor has such a hard time with DJ snobs. You see whilst that slappy mashin twenty buttons a second method seems cool, to the crowd it sounds like a cheaply done remix. Some of the effects (And I mean literally two or three) are used tastefully. Using the LMFAO acapella, he could have just ran Gangnam, looped and played the acapella, and then used those effects for a build up, and then dropped the actual LMFAO track in the chorus, and the dancefloor would love that way more, and it keeps consistency and groove in your music, instead of this "Oh my god, what the fuck is happening to my favourite song? How can I dance to this without being looking epileptic?" You want to get paid? Learn how to please and attract a crowd. Don't like DJing in a way that people pay you for? Tough. Go find another profession to earn your money. For me, finding ways to cleverly mix and keep a groove with the 99% crap in the top 40's is an enjoyable challenge, getting paid for it is a bonus.
Anh Pagliuco 01.05.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign http://www.djranking s.com/tag/underwaterrobots/ Thanks man. I actually remember the article on the videos. Very cool stuff.
Doreen Schurle 01.05.2013	Originally Posted by scattrrbrain Those video edits are amazing. I really like that work with all the Traktor loops popping up and what not. Who's the special guy? http://www.djranking s.com/tag/underwaterrobots/
Anh Pagliuco 01.05.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign That video was actually produced independently by a community member here Probably one of my favorite routines ever, and kinda reminds me of Angelo's Reloop stuff. Those video edits are amazing. I really like that work with all the Traktor loops popping up and what not. Who's the special guy?
Doreen Schurle 01.05.2013	Originally Posted by dj gullum It seams to me that most of the members on here are not Club DJ and seam to hate anything that is populare be it DJ's or top40 songs. Remember Club are for the crowed and not you, festivals and special events are about you. If you have a special style and dos not fit a club say no. Think of it as getting a Death Metal band playing at a country bar. Some parts of the video were actualy quite cool but any and DJ in a club that uses beatmatcher/slicer more then once in a song would get a pubtch in da face from me. The mix without much less FX I would enjoy at a club being a bit drunk, the songs are overused so they would have killed my mood if I were soper. And you still young keep practising and enjoy music. Hold din kaeft You'll find that a large number of us ARE club DJs, but in genre-specific venues. I can tell you that - especially in House clubs - stuff like that DOES go down very well, but it obviously on what your base tracks are and how you use them. You're right that using beatmasher and slicer out of tempo, especially in vocal-heavy tracks, doesn't work particularly well in a club, but if you're playing mostly instrumental house then you can use those techniques to build crescendos and add flavour to your mix. Also, there's the live performance element I mentioned previously. In certain venues, being able to get up on stage (or in some other easily visible position) with a Maschine, Midifighter, MPC or Orbit makes the difference between people paying
Ashanti Andreacchio 01.05.2013	It seams to me that most of the members on here are not Club DJ and seam to hate anything that is populare be it DJ's or top40 songs. Remember Club are for the crowed and not you, festivals and special events are about you. If you have a special style and dos not fit a club say no. Think of it as getting a Death Metal band playing at a country bar. Some parts of the video were actualy quite cool but any and DJ in a club that uses beatmatcher/slicer more then once in a song would get a pubtch in da face from me. The mix without much less FX I would enjoy at a club being a bit drunk, the songs are overused so they would have killed my mood if I were soper. And you still young keep practising and enjoy music.
Doreen Schurle 01.05.2013	Originally Posted by scattrrbrain Behringer finally jumped on this industry (obvious modelling that video after the similar NI vids) Id rather have a 3D for what he's doing. That video was actually produced independently by a community member here Probably one of my favorite routines ever, and kinda reminds me of Angelo's Reloop stuff.
Anh Pagliuco 01.05.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign This isn't true. Bass Kleph gets paid insane amounts of money for doing just that, although with his stuff he's using more samples and whatnot than remixing tracks. A good example would be the CMD DC-1 video on that same guy's channel... lemme get a link. If you did that live, people would go mental. Behringer finally jumped on this industry (obvious modelling that video after the similar NI vids) Id rather have a 3D for what he's doing.
Trula Willadsen 01.05.2013	To be honest dude, at 18, you're doing a nice routine. People here mostly don't like it because they hate Gangnam style. I believe that in most top40 clubs they would like an one hour set with a couple of routines mixed through some popular songs. Keep practicing and carry on mate!
Doreen Schurle 01.05.2013	Originally Posted by octostout The ONLY application for that terrible style is youtube videos. Nobody will ever want you to do anything like this live for any reason, even "a couple times a set". Just learn to actually DJ. You "spice things up" by actually being good. This isn't true. Bass Kleph gets paid insane amounts of money for doing just that, although with his stuff he's using more samples and whatnot than remixing tracks. A good example would be the CMD DC-1 video on that same guy's channel... lemme get a link. If you did that live, people would go mental.
Kathe Stump 01.05.2013	The ONLY application for that terrible style is youtube videos. Nobody will ever want you to do anything like this live for any reason, even "a couple times a set". Just learn to actually DJ. You "spice things up" by actually being good.
Olin Easley 01.05.2013	You're 18 now, so you hardly have any experience with clubbing. Go out and listen to what the DJ does and more importantly, how the public reacts. Noone will care if you use turntables and do "cool tricks" if you're not making them dance.
nayit ruiz jaramillo 01.05.2013	Originally Posted by djmetalgear I thought DJTT had a rule that you had to respond/reply like 5 times in order to start your own thread.... This rule is only there to prevent spam. The 5 post rule also gives us 'volunteers' time to get around to approving them. A moderator can approve a post if it is clearly not spam... and I was on the community when this thread was started, and it is clearly bona fidi.
Meaghan Machold 02.05.2013	1. no one wants to see you button mash on a MF in an avg club 2. there are tons of DJs who just use turntables and mixer and make BANK because they have their own style they perfected 3. if your mentality is about money, you will quickly burn out and lose any willpower to go one 4. stop posting and go practice. ON ANOTHER NOTE: I thought DJTT had a rule that you had to respond/reply like 5 times in order to start your own thread.... If not, there should be a rule like that.
Vernie Kuam 01.05.2013	I thought the cue point juggling was pretty cool!
Emelina Paglia 01.05.2013	Originally Posted by Karlos Santos If you "wanna be real good" then practice. If you wanna "have that wow factor" then practice. You will not get anywhere unless you practice and improve. Forget the gimmicks & the gear . You are 18 and you have just started. You are not in any position to be believeing about fame. You need to learn about the music before you learn about the technology or figure out how to be famous. No-one can tell you what will make you stand out, no-one. If there was a formula everyone would do it. +1 Originally Posted by DJBife Everything in that video is horrible, sorry for my honest opinion, but if that is your idea of "spicing things up", it is my idea of shitting things up lol. +1 What they both said... dead on!
Freddie Farringer 01.05.2013	all that he is doing in that vid is using a midi fighter, their are tons of devices out there that accomplish what he is doing... i recommend you do some research on the world of djing, and yes you need to love what you do inorder to actually be successful at it. especially with all the competition, your love for the music and the sounds that you make are what wil set you apart
Julissa Serrone 30.04.2013	Originally Posted by DJBife Everything in that video is horrible, sorry for my honest opinion, but if that is your idea of "spicing things up", it is my idea of shitting things up lol. +1
Leon Albornoz 30.04.2013	Everything in that video is horrible, sorry for my honest opinion, but if that is your idea of "spicing things up", it is my idea of shitting things up lol.
nayit ruiz jaramillo 30.04.2013	Originally Posted by de4thbyc4ke so i can turn this into a career- getting paid for what you would do for free- any help appreciated! Really dude, I wanna say that you will never earn any money from it unless you 'LOVE DOING IT'... stop believeing about getting paid and start loving what you do. If you "wanna be real good" then practice. If you wanna "have that wow factor" then practice. You will not get anywhere unless you practice and improve. Forget the gimmicks & the gear . You are 18 and you have just started. You are not in any position to be believeing about fame. You need to learn about the music before you learn about the technology or figure out how to be famous. No-one can tell you what will make you stand out, no-one. If there was a formula everyone would do it. Learn - Practice - Appreciate - Grow.

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