Headphone Mix and cueing
Headphone Mix and cueing Posted on: 01.05.2013 by Precious Pequignot When you guys beatmatch do u guys use 1 or 2?1. Headphone mix : 50% (Cue vs Master) and both ears listening to headphones 2. Headphone mix : 100% (Cue) on 1 ear using headphones, other ear on live monitors/ speakers I'm on IEMs right now, and i find method 1 to be more accurate to hear whether my track is going off beat. How bout for bringing in the track? Do you go 3. Headphone mix 100% (Master) with both ears on headphones or 4. Not use headphones at all and just listen to the house speakers I'm sure theres no proper way but just wanted to get some opinions. Feel i've been using iems and 50% headphone cue too much (1 and 3), and am personally too used to it. | |
| Dannie Dimora 02.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by Tornesoul
i'd say about 60/40 for beatmatching Sometimes i keep it 100/0 just to "feel" the dancefloor better :P |
| Precious Pequignot 04.05.2013 | Thanks for the responses guys! Alot more ppl using 50/50 for beatmatching then I thought there would be. Assumed that most ppl r on 1 ear mons and 1 ear cue. I guess whatever works for you personally eh? Cheers! |
| Rolanda Clodfelder 03.05.2013 | #2 100% of the time for the mix. #1 Only when i'm getting the tracks set up harmonically. |
| Monroe Vandeslunt 03.05.2013 | Most people end up learning one or the other and rely on it to beatmatch. I have found it difficult to switch from listening to all in ear to beat matching with 1 cup. However I personally believe that mixing completely in your headphones is the way to go because that is the only way you have 100% control over all situations. What I do is take one ear off occassionally during the mix in to hear how it sounds over the PA. Strangely though when I am playing out I find mixing with 1 ear to be easier due to the large amount of vibration and noise from the club sound system. |
| Edwardo Rothenberger 03.05.2013 | With vinyl it was always one ear on and one off, but with Traktor there is a slight delay difference between what is coming out the speakers and the headphones, due to the nature of the thing, so option 1 ends up being used, but varying the degree. |
| Hank Guidas 02.05.2013 | Always number 2 too. I believe I'm gonna have to try something different though when playing outside the bedroom. Not always happy with the monitors u get |
| Lannie Kutay 02.05.2013 | always number 2, 100% in the phones and one ear listening to the club, its just the way i learned. |
| Kristofer Krauel 02.05.2013 | I use the headphones and 50/50 cue/master mix for beatmatching etc. Then when i'm ready to bring it in i tend to listen to the PA speakers or monitor if one is available. I have mates who use one headphone on 100% cue and the other ear listening to the monitor speaker. I could never do this! Trainwreck EVERY time!! |
| Dannie Dimora 02.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by Tornesoul
i'd say about 60/40 for beatmatching Sometimes i keep it 100/0 just to "feel" the dancefloor better :P |
| Arnulfo Morten 02.05.2013 | Why you using headphones? you didn't get the memo? all the cool kids are going natural lol jk...... I use 2 and 4 when playing live. I always have or request a really good monitor in the booth. With Traktor, Serato, CDJ you get a pretty good bpm reading you can set and just drop on a cue point in time or have music with correct intro's and outro's so you don't really need headphones unless jumping genre's or playing new tracks you don't know to check for key and clashing rhythms. at home i use no headphones or the equivalent to 100% mix |
| Antonetta Wikel 01.05.2013 | It depends on the monitoring setup for me but most of the time and always at home, I'm 100% cue, setting levels, EQ and tempo with headphones on both ears and cueing between the track that's playing and my upcoming track. After that's set I go one ear with the incoming track cued in headphones, drop the track to make sure it's in sync, remove headphone and mix using the monitors occasionally rechecking in headphones the incoming track or out going track depending on where I am in the mix. I tend to mix tracks for 2 to 4 minutes, sometimes more depending on music type and "mental state". |
| Anh Pagliuco 01.05.2013 | depends on my set |
| Alphonso Deitchman 01.05.2013 | Master and Cue mix channels should be equal if the Master and Channel VU meters are level. If one is louder you can simply use a different ratio like 40/60. |
| Yajaira Harang 01.05.2013 | 50/50 for betmatching but i find my ddi S1 very bad on 50/50 to EQ, seems like the Master track is much louder than the one down, never understood why anyway... |
| Annalisa Shogren 01.05.2013 | You should always use headphones to beatmatch/eq/get levels because as mentioned you can't always trust the monitor and there will be a delay to the house speakers. |
| Yu Santellano 01.05.2013 | Ive always found it difficult to figure out what I prefer, if I'm practicing manual beatmatching I often find myself going for the "one ear in, one ear out" method, and checking using the headphone cue if I'm really not sure. I admit I'd prefer to use the headphone cue but sometimes I find it just confuses me even more, which is a bit strange. I always bring the mix in "live" i.e. on the speakers, so I know what it actually sounds like! Though I've found it can work both ways - something that sounds like crap over the speakers can sound fine in headphones, and something that sounds like a trainwreck in the headphones can actually sound alright or even quite good when it comes out of the speakers. |
| Leeanna Ayla 01.05.2013 | I use sync, but on the rare occasion I need to beat match it's 50/50. 100% mixing in headphones because that's the only thing you have consistent control over. |
| Latoria Kavulich 01.05.2013 | i prefer to go deaf evenly in both ears. |
| Delila Vandommelen 01.05.2013 | All in the headphones, mix of 1 and 3, with the occasional lifting of an earpad to check whether to compensate for the PA's EQ. On my ex behringer mixer, the cue/master is the most worn out - it is the main knob I look for when facing an unknown mixer for the first time (or whatever buttons make up for it, believe DJM 300 and the like. Yuck). Cue/master preview for beatmatching and adjusting the eq before bringing it in. Once that's started, I jump betwen cue/master and just the master - I need it to ride the pitch. At home, I just can't turn the speakers up too much, and the habits developed by defaulting to the headphones have served me well so far, because it turns out you can't depend on a monitor a lot of the time. At gigs, it may be too far or facing the wrong direction because the house limiter/main PA is so full of shit/turned down you can only use the monitor to push music to the room. Or maybe there just isn't one and all you have is the room's more or less messy/delayed/muffled sound to go by. You can't always have a usable monitor, but you should always have headphones. Of course if you end up on a mixer with a fucked up cue section, you're screwed. But so is anyone. |
| Augustine Mitzen 01.05.2013 | 100% mix when getting the levels right, when beatmatching, usually say 80% but that varies a lot, my mixer has a crossfader to fade between channel 1/2 when cueing so i flick it a lot. same thing playing out, but generally i find that telling that stuff is not on time when having both tracks in the monitors as opposed to headphones |
| Oren Bettes 01.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by Tornesoul
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| Lashawn Maycock 01.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by joemanton
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| Karoline Allemand 01.05.2013 | I had similar questions about the bringing in the mix. Does anyone just look at levels and waveform to beatmatch without using headphones? PanPan
Originally Posted by Tornesoul
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| Latoria Kavulich 01.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by Tornesoul
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| Elvis Woodis 01.05.2013 | 50/50 for beatmatching (usually 70/30 in the non playing tracks favour), and use the monitors to bring the track in, whilst checking in headphones now and again to make sure mix is good. |
| Precious Pequignot 01.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by Jester
did u ever try method 2? i've been trying and its quite disappointing that it isnt as on point as when i use 1. haha how bout for bringing in the track? |
| Latoria Kavulich 01.05.2013 | 50/50 |
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