Traktor mappings for the Ableton Push Has anyone who received their controller yet done so? I just purchased mine with the intention of using the push as a Traktor controller along with my timecode setup. Just looking for ideas on what anyone else may have done |
Kellie Myrum
19.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by dschroeter
Just mapping the colored cues is something like 8 mappings ... times 8 cues ... times the number of decks.
Indeed. And it took away one modifier condition for cue type...
This is another thing NI could do to simplify mappings; just give one Out for a cue point.
There was... They made this change in 2.5. Not sure why but probably to let us map colors for each type. |
Larue Ostmeyer
27.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by botstein
I believe that for turntablists, it pays to combine scratch control with cue points. Consider dedicating at least 4 buttons Z2-style - to control cue points on track decks AND remix deck slots on remix decks, with an ability to switch deck foci. I sometimes like to mix really fast, and use a lot of load markers, so I would be interested to see some macros that you could come up with (beyond the instant gratification concept). My old Maschine mapping had pads that would do a bunch of things in one go such as loading the next track in the playlist, setting its filter to filter out the kick and bass, and reset the tempo for the deck.
Thanks for the suggestions! I'd like to transfer my Z2 workflow into a midi controller I can bring with me to clubs gigs and performances where it doesn't make sense to bring my Z2 with me. |
Ervin Calvery
27.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by Blak Majik
That is how I'm trying to approach this mapping.
You could use the factory mapping I mentioned (you have it if you have control editor) and just change the CCs to match your Push to start out with.
Originally Posted by Blak Majik
I opted for the push over the maschine mk2 simply because there are more buttons,
Originally Posted by Blak Majik
And yes I juggle
I believe that for turntablists, it pays to combine scratch control with cue points. Consider dedicating at least 4 buttons Z2-style - to control cue points on track decks AND remix deck slots on remix decks, with an ability to switch deck foci. I sometimes like to mix really fast, and use a lot of load markers, so I would be interested to see some macros that you could come up with (beyond the instant gratification concept). My old Maschine mapping had pads that would do a bunch of things in one go such as loading the next track in the playlist, setting its filter to filter out the kick and bass, and reset the tempo for the deck. |
Larue Ostmeyer
27.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by botstein
Hilarious!
It seems like people are in to mapping the encoders in a fashion similar to the Maschine factory mapping for Traktor or the X1. It's nice to have that visual feedback - unfortunately, Push's display is only text-based, and your hands are going to be in the way of you seeing what you're doing, but it's still something.
It would be worth looking at the mappings some have done with other grids (APC40, Launchpad, Base, etc, etc) and Traktor.
Do you beat juggle at all?
That is how I'm trying to approach this mapping. I opted for the push over the maschine mk2 simply because there are more buttons, and as such, a good chance that I can fit a lot of instant gratification effects on the grid, along with cues, etc.
And yes I juggle |
Toya Spor
27.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by Blak Majik
Has anyone who received their controller yet done so? I just purchased mine with the intention of using the push as a Traktor controller along with my timecode setup. Just looking for ideas on what anyone else may have done
Once my Push arrives, I'll be doing the same thing (in addition to learning Ableton), so excited
I'm believeing that the pads have potential for the remix decks and for cuepoint juggling. Once you map that, there's tons more buttons for basically every important feature. Definitely a lot of flexibility for people to come up with interesting mappings. |
Larue Ostmeyer
27.04.2013 | Has anyone who received their controller yet done so? I just purchased mine with the intention of using the push as a Traktor controller along with my timecode setup. Just looking for ideas on what anyone else may have done |
Kellie Myrum
19.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by dschroeter
Just mapping the colored cues is something like 8 mappings ... times 8 cues ... times the number of decks.
Indeed. And it took away one modifier condition for cue type...
This is another thing NI could do to simplify mappings; just give one Out for a cue point.
There was... They made this change in 2.5. Not sure why but probably to let us map colors for each type. |
Caron Pulcher
19.05.2013 | Thanks, I'm glad you like it. Just mapping the colored cues is something like 8 mappings ... times 8 cues ... times the number of decks. This is another thing NI could do to simplify mappings; just give one Out for a cue point. But again, this mapping is more of an exercise, not anything you'd use in a club! |
Larue Ostmeyer
19.05.2013 | Nice job! That looks like it took a lot of time, so I definitely respect that! |
Kellie Myrum
19.05.2013 | Mapping that eight button colon at the right as bank selectors for entire layout would seriously be a lots of work |
Caron Pulcher
19.05.2013 | Yeah, adding the 3rd and 4th decks is actually a lot of work (believe modifiers on every button and knob) and I'm also not addressing the elephant in the room: remix decks. Waiting on either someone else to do it or proper mapping support from NI... |
Kellie Myrum
19.05.2013 | Good job! It looks pretty nice though it's only two deck mapping but still a plenty of controls over A and B.
Love the solution for tempo bend output, cool idea
Make sure to post this at mappings page |
Caron Pulcher
19.05.2013 | Yep, rookie mistake. Forgot to add an entire section. It's up now and I've updated the link. Would love your thoughts! |
Kellie Myrum
19.05.2013 | Dude are you re-uploading the video? Says it's been removed. |
Caron Pulcher
19.05.2013 | I've made a mapping for Traktor, the video is here:
And the .tsi is here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h3bfwgbghg7x7d2/PUSH%20v1.tsi
Hope it's what you're looking for! |
Kellie Myrum
27.04.2013 | Push has a ton of mapping potential... |
Larue Ostmeyer
27.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by botstein
I believe that for turntablists, it pays to combine scratch control with cue points. Consider dedicating at least 4 buttons Z2-style - to control cue points on track decks AND remix deck slots on remix decks, with an ability to switch deck foci. I sometimes like to mix really fast, and use a lot of load markers, so I would be interested to see some macros that you could come up with (beyond the instant gratification concept). My old Maschine mapping had pads that would do a bunch of things in one go such as loading the next track in the playlist, setting its filter to filter out the kick and bass, and reset the tempo for the deck.
Thanks for the suggestions! I'd like to transfer my Z2 workflow into a midi controller I can bring with me to clubs gigs and performances where it doesn't make sense to bring my Z2 with me. |
Ervin Calvery
27.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by Blak Majik
That is how I'm trying to approach this mapping.
You could use the factory mapping I mentioned (you have it if you have control editor) and just change the CCs to match your Push to start out with.
Originally Posted by Blak Majik
I opted for the push over the maschine mk2 simply because there are more buttons,
Originally Posted by Blak Majik
And yes I juggle
I believe that for turntablists, it pays to combine scratch control with cue points. Consider dedicating at least 4 buttons Z2-style - to control cue points on track decks AND remix deck slots on remix decks, with an ability to switch deck foci. I sometimes like to mix really fast, and use a lot of load markers, so I would be interested to see some macros that you could come up with (beyond the instant gratification concept). My old Maschine mapping had pads that would do a bunch of things in one go such as loading the next track in the playlist, setting its filter to filter out the kick and bass, and reset the tempo for the deck. |
Shawn Vanhaitsma
27.04.2013 | Potential for remix decks? Yes if NI wants to open that up.. if not, that seems like a very expensive "traktor controller" |
Larue Ostmeyer
27.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by botstein
Hilarious!
It seems like people are in to mapping the encoders in a fashion similar to the Maschine factory mapping for Traktor or the X1. It's nice to have that visual feedback - unfortunately, Push's display is only text-based, and your hands are going to be in the way of you seeing what you're doing, but it's still something.
It would be worth looking at the mappings some have done with other grids (APC40, Launchpad, Base, etc, etc) and Traktor.
Do you beat juggle at all?
That is how I'm trying to approach this mapping. I opted for the push over the maschine mk2 simply because there are more buttons, and as such, a good chance that I can fit a lot of instant gratification effects on the grid, along with cues, etc.
And yes I juggle |
Toya Spor
27.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by Blak Majik
Has anyone who received their controller yet done so? I just purchased mine with the intention of using the push as a Traktor controller along with my timecode setup. Just looking for ideas on what anyone else may have done
Once my Push arrives, I'll be doing the same thing (in addition to learning Ableton), so excited
I'm believeing that the pads have potential for the remix decks and for cuepoint juggling. Once you map that, there's tons more buttons for basically every important feature. Definitely a lot of flexibility for people to come up with interesting mappings. |
Ervin Calvery
27.04.2013 | Hilarious!
It seems like people are in to mapping the encoders in a fashion similar to the Maschine factory mapping for Traktor or the X1. It's nice to have that visual feedback - unfortunately, Push's display is only text-based, and your hands are going to be in the way of you seeing what you're doing, but it's still something.
It would be worth looking at the mappings some have done with other grids (APC40, Launchpad, Base, etc, etc) and Traktor.
Do you beat juggle at all? |
